Are you "masked up" in public?

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Are you "masked up" in public?

  • No

    Votes: 19 27.1%

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 72.9%
  • Total voters
    70
The law in my state. I think it's good policy, not to protect the wearer, obviously, but for everyone else. I don't wear one when I'm going to exercise but I do in the store, etc.
 
If I'm in scrubs - Mask.

If I'm in regular clothes - No mask.

If I'm in my own shower inside my house where 4 ppl reside and not one of which has had Sx of any sort, at any time - No mask.

I wonder if I should be wearing a mask during sex with my wife...My wife would probably benefit from that...
 
SommeRiver said:
If I'm in scrubs - Mask.

If I'm in regular clothes - No mask.

If I'm in my own shower inside my house where 4 ppl reside and not one of which has had Sx of any sort, at any time - No mask.

I wonder if I should be wearing a mask during sex with my wife...My wife would probably benefit from that...
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I would just advise to gargle a little mouthwash prior to event.
 
SommeRiver said:
If I'm in scrubs - Mask.

If I'm in regular clothes - No mask.

If I'm in my own shower inside my house where 4 ppl reside and not one of which has had Sx of any sort, at any time - No mask.

I wonder if I should be wearing a mask during sex with my wife...My wife would probably benefit from that...
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Don't. She HATES that.
 
saw someone wearing lace yesterday. looked less formal that this but just about as see through...

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I have an extra N95 from the hospital that I wear in the supermarket. If I'm outside for a walk, I just avoid people as best I can (I'm in a rural community so it's not hard)
 
SSdoc33 said:
Don't. She HATES that.
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The upshot? Putting politics aside, we do not have good data that wearing a mask will protect you or others or society at large. Having said that, I also realize this is a personal decision, so I would encourage everyone to get educated on the science and draw their own conclusions. In addition, I also know that wearing masks makes some people feel protected and that that could have some value. All I want is for smart people to read the actual data and then write or speak accordingly.
 
drusso said:
The upshot? Putting politics aside, we do not have good data that wearing a mask will protect you or others or society at large. Having said that, I also realize this is a personal decision, so I would encourage everyone to get educated on the science and draw their own conclusions. In addition, I also know that wearing masks makes some people feel protected and that that could have some value. All I want is for smart people to read the actual data and then write or speak accordingly.
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I think we've got better data for masks than for much of the stuff we do clinically.

Are there great data specific for SARS-CoV2? No
Is there face validity and/or other supportive data? Yes
Would I prefer everyone had access to perfectly fitting N95s? Sure

It's a low cost, low risk intervention, similar to hand hygiene or most infectious disease control stuff. I'd be okay if everyone could wear a face shield or a face mask to minimize droplet spread.

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Is there any ray of hope for those who feel protected by wearing a surgical mask? One study found a 43% reduction in respiratory viral infections in immune comprised patients when everyone (patients, visitors, and healthcare workers) wore surgical masks (21). However, these were not patients who had a normal and functioning immune system.
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Also, I'm taking a 43% reduction in the sickest of the sick as a sign of how useful a mask can be.
 
lobelsteve said:
I wonder what the offset in benefit is due to poor hand hygiene and near constant touching of the mask by lay people and anyone who doesnt routinely do a sterile scrub in.
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Yeah, it's not perfect, like anything else. It may make some folks at risk for infecting themselves. We should probably do more outreach and education like:
www.today.com

Are you wearing a face mask correctly? Common mistakes to avoid

Here's how to avoid these common face mask mistakes.
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Honestly, if Saban's for it, I'm in.
 
This is true for so many one-size-fits-all solutions.

I've seen pics of people wearing gloves and taking them off with their teeth?

These things, including masks, give many people a false sense of security.
 
Well if there was only someone who was in a great position of power who might spend some time leading by example and supporting the recommendations of leading scientists..........
 
drusso, I respect your opinion and right to voice your opinion, and I love the ability to respond to your statements.
posting Centeno's position papers once in a great while is understandable. but please, don't post his opinion pieces as a routine occurrence.



unless your name really is Chris Centeno.


one of the offset advantages of masks is that the wearer does not put his fingers in his mouth as much as if he were not wearing a mask at all.
 
Ducttape said:
drusso, I respect your opinion and right to voice your opinion, and I love the ability to respond to your statements.
posting Centeno's position papers once in a great while is understandable. but please, don't post his opinion pieces as a routine occurrence.



unless your name really is Chris Centeno.


one of the offset advantages of masks is that the wearer does not put his fingers in his mouth as much as if he were not wearing a mask at all.
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I think that he's very thoughtful about a variety of topics that affect pain doctors. And, the best part, you can comment on his blogs if you disagree and he'll respond. I do it all the time.
 
Ducttape said:
id rather hear your thoughts.
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I couldn't say it better myself...


"It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis. One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis. Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19."
 
drusso said:
I couldn't say it better myself...


"It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis. One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis. Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19."
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copy and paste from the beginning of the article --- thats where the important info lies. not the end. journalism 101. you totally missed the point

"More compelling is the possibility that wearing a mask may reduce the likelihood of transmission from asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic health care workers with Covid-19 to other providers and patients. This concern increases as Covid-19 becomes more widespread in the community. We face a constant risk that a health care worker with early infection may bring the virus into our facilities and transmit it to others. Transmission from people with asymptomatic infection has been well documented, although it is unclear to what extent such transmission contributes to the overall spread of infection.1-3 "

here are the references in case you want to be a doctor instead of a flamethrower:

  1. Rothe C, Schunk M, Sothmann P, et al. Transmission of 2019-nCoV infection from an asymptomatic contact in Germany. N Engl J Med 2020;382:970-971.
  2. 2.Bai Y, Yao L, Wei T, et al. Presumed asymptomatic carrier transmission of COVID-19. JAMA 2020 February 21 (Epub ahead of print).
  3. 3.Li R, Pei S, Chen B, et al. Substantial undocumented infection facilitates the rapid dissemination of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2). Science 2020 March 16 (Epub ahead of print).
 

Transmission of viruses was lower with physical distancing of 1 m or more, compared with a distance of less than 1 m (n=10 736, pooled adjusted odds ratio [aOR] 0·18, 95% CI 0·09 to 0·38; risk difference [RD] −10·2%, 95% CI −11·5 to −7·5; moderate certainty); protection was increased as distance was lengthened (change in relative risk [RR] 2·02 per m; pinteraction=0·041; moderate certainty). Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection (n=2647; aOR 0·15, 95% CI 0·07 to 0·34, RD −14·3%, −15·9 to −10·7; low certainty), with stronger associations with N95 or similar respirators compared with disposable surgical masks or similar (eg, reusable 12–16-layer cotton masks; pinteraction=0·090; posterior probability >95%, low certainty). Eye protection also was associated with less infection (n=3713; aOR 0·22, 95% CI 0·12 to 0·39, RD −10·6%, 95% CI −12·5 to −7·7; low certainty).
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Interpretation

The findings of this systematic review and meta-analysis support physical distancing of 1 m or more and provide quantitative estimates for models and contact tracing to inform policy. Optimum use of face masks, respirators, and eye protection in public and health-care settings should be informed by these findings and contextual factors. Robust randomised trials are needed to better inform the evidence for these interventions, but this systematic appraisal of currently best available evidence might inform interim guidance.[/QUOTE]
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Guys, I've been watching the news and it's so encouraging! Apparently no one is enforcing masks or social distancing. I've seen very large crowds gathering together in every city and state across the country! The pandemic is over! I'm just amazed at how quickly it all resolved. Looks like this thread/discussion is a moot point.
 
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clubdeac said:
Guys, I've been watching the news and it's so encouraging! Apparently no one is enforcing masks or social distancing. I've seen very large crowds gathering together in every city and state across the country! The pandemic is over! I'm just amazed at how quickly it all resolved. Looks like this thread/discussion is a moot point.
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Nice Breibart Talking point about masks

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