Army ER residency, competitive?

[njaqua]

is it difficult to obtain an Army Emergency Medicine residency? Is it very competitive?

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[turkish]

Yes. Every prior service hooah type wants in, and you can't beat them. Sorry dude.

 

[st0rmin]

is it difficult to obtain an Army Emergency Medicine residency? Is it very competitive?

Yes, it's somewhat difficult to get an Army EM slot, but it is possible. There are a lot of prior service guys who go into EM because they want operational slots and EM is a good way to get those slots. In my class there are 3 prior service guys and the rest (9) have no other military background. One did ROTC, but that's it. Do well in school, get good Step 1, Step 2 scores, rotate at all of the Army programs if possible and do well on your rotations. Get great SLORs from the Army programs, and you'll probably do just fine.

 

[MedicalCorpse]

Yes, it's somewhat difficult to get an Army EM slot, but it is possible. There are a lot of prior service guys who go into EM because they want operational slots and EM is a good way to get those slots. In my class there are 3 prior service guys and the rest (9) have no other military background. One did ROTC, but that's it. Do well in school, get good Step 1, Step 2 scores, rotate at all of the Army programs if possible and do well on your rotations. Get great SLORs from the Army programs, and you'll probably do just fine.

Then you will end up in downtown Tehran with RPGs going off all around you saying, "Why, oh, why, did I..."

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[njaqua]

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it. Given how competitive Army EM residencies are, how easy is it then to get a civilian deferment? I know it's based on the needs of the Army but I would imagine that EP's are in high demand in the Army (battlefield medicine, etc.). Also, do civilian deferred residents get the same pay as Army residents (i.e. ~60K/yr)?

 

[The White Coat Investor]

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[island doc]

Then you will end up in downtown Tehran with RPGs going off all around you saying, "Why, oh, why, did I..."

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Or working five 12-hour days a week in an understaffed stateside military ED, saying "Why, oh, why, did I..."

 

[lp=md]

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it. Given how competitive Army EM residencies are, how easy is it then to get a civilian deferment? I know it's based on the needs of the Army but I would imagine that EP's are in high demand in the Army (battlefield medicine, etc.). Also, do civilian deferred residents get the same pay as Army residents (i.e. ~60K/yr)?

"Given how competitive Army EM residencies are, how easy is it then to get a civilian deferment?"

would someone be able to answer this question?

 

[changhe]

Then you will end up in downtown Tehran with RPGs going off all around you saying, "Why, oh, why, did I..."

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Conversely, you'll end up in downtown Tehran with RPGs going off all around you saying "this is why I signed up" and some variation of dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria reservare.

Some people actually enjoy serving their country.

 

[Croooz]

Because while your perfecting your game of solitaire during your Navy GMO tour, he will be dodging all kinds of bullets (nurse & .762 caliber) as a newly minted EM attending. 😉

More likely, while sitting in Tehran in your cute little camo outfit, you'll think to yourself, "Why didn't I join the Navy, where the real men serve?"

I'm just saying . . .

🙂

 

[changhe]

Because while your perfecting your game of solitaire during your Navy GMO tour, he will be dodging all kinds of bullets (nurse & .762 caliber) as a newly minted EM attending. 😉

Oh I have no illusions, despite being in the Air Force. I signed up so I can be the guy in the CCATT plane looking down and saying "We're landing WHERE?" Of course, we get to leave right away (usually).🙂

 

[Armymed2015]

is it difficult to obtain an Army Emergency Medicine residency? Is it very competitive?

So I know this thread is several years old, but I figured I would dig it up to get some perspective on the current competitiveness.

I'm a third year on the Army HPSP with a good step I score (above 230). My big weaknesses are that so far I haven't gotten any research under my belt and I'm not prior service.

I'm really interested in EM, and I'm hoping to train at one of the Army locations. I'll be on the older end of the spectrum when I graduate so I really want to just get started with residency ASAP before I get any older. Does anybody know if they're currently giving out civilian deferments out in case the Army residencies fill up, or will I likely be stuck doing the GMO thing if I don't match in the military match?

 

[Doctor Bob]

I'm really interested in EM, and I'm hoping to train at one of the Army locations. I'll be on the older end of the spectrum when I graduate so I really want to just get started with residency ASAP before I get any older. Does anybody know if they're currently giving out civilian deferments out in case the Army residencies fill up, or will I likely be stuck doing the GMO thing if I don't match in the military match?

The Army usually does not do civilian deferments, especially for EM. But when the JSGME forecast board results come out at the end of your third year you'll know what kind of spots and how many are available.

If you do not match through the military match then you would go off to GMO-world.

 

[ninjadoc12]

So I know this thread is several years old, but I figured I would dig it up to get some perspective on the current competitiveness.

I'm a third year on the Army HPSP with a good step I score (above 230). My big weaknesses are that so far I haven't gotten any research under my belt and I'm not prior service.

I'm really interested in EM, and I'm hoping to train at one of the Army locations. I'll be on the older end of the spectrum when I graduate so I really want to just get started with residency ASAP before I get any older. Does anybody know if they're currently giving out civilian deferments out in case the Army residencies fill up, or will I likely be stuck doing the GMO thing if I don't match in the military match?

Short answer, yes. EM is a very desirable specialty in the military so every year there are always many applicants.

If you're in the Army, don't plan on getting a civilian deferment. If you don't match you will be placed in a Transitional Year (TY) Internship (the old style rotating internship). You will be allowed to apply again during your internship, and if you get picked up then you avoid GMO land. If you end up as a GMO you can still apply and are actually more competitive than you are as a TY. Also, research is helpful, but not all important. It usually can add a point or two (max 4). I suggest you look at the JSGMESB point sheet to be able to judge where you will likely stand. You can find it at militarygme.org, I found the website helpful when I first applied.

A good step I score will help you get your foot in the door, but the most important thing you can do is rotate at the Army programs, there's only three of them so use your two ADTs and if possible rotate as a civilian at the third. When you're rotating try your best to fit in with the team. PDs don't want residents that don't "fit" with the program. Each place has its own feel, so find where you feel most comfortable.

Best of luck.

 

[DocRGR]

There's actually 4 Army programs: Georgia Regents University in Augusta, GA takes 6 Active Duty residents a year. It's the same as any of the other 3 programs you just train at a civilian center.