Thanks vellnueve!
If you chose an overseas operational tour, can you expect to be deployed from that overseas base to a war zone, or are you there for entirety the 2-3 years?
Also, if I was taking a 3 yr HSCP, could I combine my credentialing tour with being stationed there and bring dependents for the whole 3 years?
It's difficult to get a deployment to Afghanistan right now, there are plenty of people wanting to go and not enough billets. If you're stationed overseas in Japan with your dependents that would be three years - same with Guam, and you would most likely not be deployed further from there unless your orders are to one of the forward deployed ships out there (carrier, amphib, sub tender).
They're not going to let you take the credentialing tour and then stay there - the whole reason that they are giving you financial support for school is because they need you for operational billets. Your family could stay at the credentialing location but you would most likely not.
So no new LTs from 3rd Dental Battalion are currently being deployed from Okinawa to CENTCOM?
I have a quick question for you. I am a current second year dental student and am very interested in a serving in the Navy. I was just wondering what opportunities are available for a student like me? Is there something available during school or would I be better off applying as a licensed dentist?
Thanks for your help!
I owe over 200K in student loans
What is the maximum student loan payback for active duty (I plan to be in for 5+ years)?
Hi I had a quick question for you: I recently got into the HPSP program and was commissioned my first semester of dental school. While you were in dental school, did the Navy require anything beyond passing your Boards and classes? My recruiter looked into it for me and said those were the only two requirements, I went over my contracts to confirm the same, however I've been told by previous HPSP scholars that you need to maintain a 3.0 while in dental school. Is this true? Would be great to clarify the conflicting informations
The Navy HPLRP give you about 40k a year towards your loans, minus 25% for taxes for each year you serve active duty. As far as I understand it, there is not a set maximum number of years you can do this...but it's for your professional school only, not for basic college.
here is the link:
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmedmpte/accessions/Documents/ASD(HA) Policy 08-006 - HPLRP.pdf
Hi I had a quick question for you: I recently got into the HPSP program and was commissioned my first semester of dental school. While you were in dental school, did the Navy require anything beyond passing your Boards and classes? My recruiter looked into it for me and said those were the only two requirements, I went over my contracts to confirm the same, however I've been told by previous HPSP scholars that you need to maintain a 3.0 while in dental school. Is this true? Would be great to clarify the conflicting informations
Assuming you have no prior service or private practice experience and are coming in as a brand new general dentist out of school, with no wife or kids, you are looking at $3771 per month base pay, $230 monthly nontaxable basic allowance for subsistence, a nontaxable basic allowance for housing monthly (can range from $1000-3000 depending on where you're stationed, SWAG at an average is probably 1400-1700). That's the same across the board for all O-3s.
If you get your state license (GET IT!!! - DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF NOT TAKING A LICENSING EXAM!), you are then looking at the new consolidated special pay plan of $20K a year paid in equal monthly installments ($1666.67 per month). This is taxable. I do not know if they are still offering the legacy ASP/VSP pay plan to new accessions.
I just got accepted to UDM and I'm seriously considering doing HPSP with Navy. I skimmed through most of this forum, but I still have some questions. It'll be great if someone can clarify them for me.
1. I think I read somewhere that if you don't do GPR or AEGD, you'll be stuck with mostly exams and amalgams or other more basic procedures for a long time. Is there any truth to that? Can someone share their experience right out of dental school?
You'll do a credentialing year where you'll get rotated through specialties like endo, perio, and oral surgery - but exams and operative are the focus for the Navy general dentist. As a credentialer you are less likely to get a one-holer or isolated billet versus an AEGD or GPR resident.
2. Basically, I want to go to Japan. (Actually anywhere oversea would be pretty exciting, but I saw somewhere that it's impossible to get Spain or London right after dental school.) Can someone comment on the Navy stations in Japan? Like what type of procedures they would do, the life style, if they have time to travel, etc? Anything is appreciated.
Japan is the most likely overseas destination for someone just out of credentialing - and I know at least one person who is currently doing their credentialing year in Japan. Other overseas destinations for the first tour LT include Bahrain, Diego Garcia, Guam.
3. What is life on a ship like? How many people do you share a room with? What about bathroom/shower? What do you do in your free time? And, while I don't think it's possible, is there internet?!
For a new LT you'd be looking at 0-5 roommates depending on the class of ship. Common bathrooms and showers (seperated by gender, of course) sort of like a college dorm. There is internet but it is quite slow and at times will be shut down for operational reasons.
4. I am a little fuzzy on the definition of deployment. My impression from reading previous posts is that you are "deployed" if you're assigned to a ship or a station oversea. If you're assigned to a ship, then you'll be on the ocean whenever the ship is. But what about oversea? Would you still spend time on a ship? I'm sorry if I'm getting this all wrong. I'm really confused about this part.
Deployment is when a ship or other unit leaves its home port and goes to forward locations, showing the flag, doing exercises, etc. They last 6-10 months depending on the ship and operational needs. Overseas duty is different - unless you're assigned to a ship homeported overseas you'll be on a shore base. A few places (like Diego Garcia) are shore clinics but is widely considered to be sea duty.
5. Just out of curiosity, what percentage of Navy dentists are female? Do I have to be like Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica?
Female Navy dentists are in the minority but there are plenty of them out there, including the current Dental Corps chief. You don't have to be an ass-kicking badass.
Thanks in advance
1. I think I read somewhere that if you don't do GPR or AEGD, you'll be stuck with mostly exams and amalgams or other more basic procedures for a long time. Is there any truth to that? Can someone share their experience right out of dental school?
It is my understanding that the HSCP would be a good choice for a state school like UCLA and the HPSP is better for a private school like UOP. Also, I really don't think you would be able to get 90 of AD in while attending dental school.After literally reading every post in this forum, I am so glad to have caught up. Thank you everyone for contributing!
To answer recent previous posts, my recruiter told me the board will take 80 applications (first come first serve) and then pick 65 recipients for HPSP from those 80. Not sure how HSCP will go down.
A scenario someone will hopefully answer for me:
I am deciding between UOP and UCLA through HPSP... My plan is to be a general dentist and not specialize (that could change of course). I will probably go to UOP since I could do a 3 year HPSP payback, but earlier in the forum someone asked about doing HSCP and then taking a GI Bill to pay back what isn't covered by the basic pay while you are in dental school and on AD since it can be taken after 90 days of AD... Is that seriously feasible? I am not sure if I will make a career out of the Navy since I have to try it first, but I'm not shutting it out as an option, which is why an HSCP option seems reasonable, and a great start to a Navy career. However, if this is the case, I might be better off trying my luck at UCLA, right? The difference between these schools is probably around $100k. Also, I love both of these schools so that part is not a huge deciding factor
If anyone could shed some light on my situation that would be great and much appreciated, thank you!
It is my understanding that the HSCP would be a good choice for a state school like UCLA and the HPSP is better for a private school like UOP. Also, I really don't think you would be able to get 90 of AD in while attending dental school.
In regards to your school choices, I am a UCLA Dental grad and really appreciated the fact that it was a pass no pass grading system. Of course, UOP is only three years and creates great clinicians.
NAVY DDS 201, I should clarify, I was just stating that generally HSCP would be a better choice for a state school over a private school if scvpredent wanted to go the HSCP route. However, I would agree that HPSP is generally a better financial choice for both UOP and UCLA.I disagree with you endo97. I looked at theoverall costs of attending UCLA dental. The HPSP is still the best option for UCLA. It takes attending low cost state schools like the TExas schools, not just a state school, to make the HSCP the better option. Now, there exceptions, but in this case the HPSP is the best option whether it be UOP or UCLA.
NAVY DDS 201, I should clarify, I was just stating that generally HSCP would be a better choice for a state school over a private school if scvpredent wanted to go the HSCP route. However, I would agree that HPSP is generally a better financial choice for both UOP and UCLA.
It is my understanding that the HSCP would be a good choice for a state school like UCLA and the HPSP is better for a private school like UOP. Also, I really don't think you would be able to get 90 of AD in while attending dental school.
In regards to your school choices, I am a UCLA Dental grad and really appreciated the fact that it was a pass no pass grading system. Of course, UOP is only three years and creates great clinicians.
I am not sure if you accrue any AD time during dental school. There have been a lot of confusion among HPSP people about this. It is a Dod policy that HPSP participants to be activated for 45 days a year to keep the status afloat, but the time "served" would not count toward a higher pay or retirement. So you graduate d school with 0 time served. Occasionally the DFAS messes it up and pay more than it should have, but it will incur backpay to govt later.
The only reason I wanted to point this out to you is because you specifically said it was your understanding that the HSCP would be good for a state school like UCLA. In a lot of cases, this is very much an incorrect statement. I was on the HSCP in dental school and did an indepth financial analysis for quite a few people here on SDN regarding which option would be best for them to include monetary benefits, health care benefits, retirement benefits, etc. For most people who get accepted into one of these programs, the HSCP is really the best option only at low cost state schools which UCLA is not. I could go into scenerios where the HSCP would be better for higher cost state schools, but that would take too much time and affects very few people.
I spoke to my recruiter and apparently the Board will meet Jan 23 or somewhere around there and they're looking for 62 people. They only have like 35 applications as of 1/8 and 1/9 was the submission cutoff for this first round...the reason the number dropped so low is because I guess they kicked out the applicants who haven't received an acceptance letter from a dental school yet.
Sounds about right, my recruiter said they switched it from early January to later to wait for more kits to come in before reviewing. Do you know if those 35 applications were complete kits that were submitted by 1/8 or just 35 complete and incompete kits?
I saw the spreadsheet for scholarships today. As of right now, they aren't looking for HSCP for graduating class of 2017. But as mentioned above, their are 62 HPSP slots available.
Any idea on when they will be selecting for the HSCP and how many spots they have available for it?
Duke 2121 I am wondering the same thing... I am still not submitted and really worrying... I do not know if you are fine. If we are too late for this year what is the process like for applying for a 3 yr HPSP?
Will we have to complete this application all over again or can we simply use this application next year?
Any input would be great I really want to join the Navy as my three of my brothers are in Special warfare for the Navy