Average GPA for this year's newly admitted class at WVU: 3.75

[WVUPharm2007]

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...good freakin' lord that's high. Blows the medical and dentistry GPAs out of the water...again...

I'm glad I got in when I did with my pithy 3.27.....I just don't have the pedigree these new fangled whipper-snappers do.

 

[fenixtnlfan]

What is the world coming to? ::shakes head::

 

[doublehh03]

what is the % of students w/ a BS and taking their courses at a 4-yr university?

 

[drugdoc]

Average PCAT for Creighton web-based class of 2011 is 89!

 

[WVUPharm2007]

what is the % of students w/ a BS and taking their courses at a 4-yr university?

I don't think they keep track because because both are irrelevant.

 

[rxgales]

overall, the average students accepted to pharmacy have secondary degrees:

ms, phd, md, do, bs, mba, dds, dmd, ba, jd, od..... yeah....


What is success, anyway? What does it mean to be successful? Is the appearance of success, like wealth or fame, the same as being successful? Who is successful and who isn't? And who determines it?

 

[doublehh03]

I don't think they keep track because because both are irrelevant.

i think they are not. students who get their BS (which meant they went to a 4-yr and didnt take all their courses at a CC) will also be exposed to the upper and most likely tougher courses that will expose them more to the science background necessary to prepare them for pharmacy school.

that's why you see more schools leaning towards students having a BS. UCSF and UCSD basically require all their students have a BS. USC now says "recommends" to have a BS but the dean says if u don't have one, you'll be rejected.

it doesn't mean a student w/ a BS is better, it just means they are more likely to be prepared.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

i think they are not. students who get their BS (which meant they went to a 4-yr and didnt take all their courses at a CC) will also be exposed to the upper and most likely tougher courses that will expose them more to the science background necessary to prepare them for pharmacy school.

I really don't agree with anything you've typed at all. Doing all of the pre-pharmacy pre-reqs in two years with a high GPA is tougher than getting a BS. To do so for WVU, you have to take two semesters in which you have 3 lab sciences. That's just insane. That's why WVU actually gives you props if you do everything in 2 years AND have a great GPA. You are battle tested for the insane pace you'll see in pharmacy school. It works out that way in practice, too. Most of the kids in Rho Chi in my class were 2-year kids because they were used to the pace.

In fact, I remember being in a medicinal chemistry research lab with two girls that had a BS in chemistry that were in my class...I completely schooled them all year in understanding mechanisms and predicting how various theoretical reactions would turn out.

Also, doing work at a CC means nothing. I did all of my work at a CC, only had a 3.27 GPA and was just as prepared as my pears. My organic chem teacher at CC was so tough that she didn't give ANYBODY an "A". I got in the 90s percentile-wise on the ACS organic chemistry exam, and that STILL wasn't enough for an "A". I was getting better scores than people in damned Ivy League schools....still got a "B". It's all based on individual schools and individual professors.

But what do I know...I only have experience in actual pharmacy school....

Let me guess. You're from California. Just a hunch. They really like to express the theoretical benefits of having a BS over there. If it's repeated enough, people actually start to believe it.....

 

[RobertZimmerman]

overall, the average students accepted to pharmacy have secondary degrees:

Um.... No

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

not true, there is a good percentage of pharmacy students out there that do not have secondary degrees (although they can probably well qualify for it).

 

[rxgales]

what good is a student who is a bookworm, most likely get scrutinize/ridicule during experimental...as in most of the cases.... anyone working in a pharmacy? don't tell me this is not true? please

 

[cycloketocaine]

overall, the average students accepted to pharmacy have secondary degrees:

ms, phd, md, do, bs, mba, dds, dmd, ba, jd, od..... yeah....


What is success, anyway? What does it mean to be successful? Is the appearance of success, like wealth or fame, the same as being successful? Who is successful and who isn't? And who determines it?

Somebody lied to you.

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

I really don't agree with anything you've typed at all. Doing all of the pre-pharmacy pre-reqs in two years with a high GPA is tougher than getting a BS


I must respectfully disagree. What's the highest level pre-req needed to apply- O Chem or Biochem? I have a degree in Chemistry and my upper level classes were much harder than the pre-reqs. And I had 2-3 lab sciences every semester- try taking P Chem lab and writing 30 page reports every week, that's insane. But you'll probably discount my opinion since I am from Pittsburgh. Go Stillers!

 

[HSDropOut]

I really don't agree with anything you've typed at all. Doing all of the pre-pharmacy pre-reqs in two years with a high GPA is tougher than getting a BS. To do so for WVU, you have to take two semesters in which you have 3 lab sciences. That's just insane. That's why WVU actually gives you props if you do everything in 2 years AND have a great GPA. You are battle tested for the insane pace you'll see in pharmacy school. It works out that way in practice, too. Most of the kids in Rho Chi in my class were 2-year kids because they were used to the pace.

In fact, I remember being in a medicinal chemistry research lab with two girls that had a BS in chemistry that were in my class...I completely schooled them all year in understanding mechanisms and predicting how various theoretical reactions would turn out.

Also, doing work at a CC means nothing. I did all of my work at a CC, only had a 3.27 GPA and was just as prepared as my pears. My organic chem teacher at CC was so tough that she didn't give ANYBODY an "A". I got in the 90s percentile-wise on the ACS organic chemistry exam, and that STILL wasn't enough for an "A". I was getting better scores than people in damned Ivy League schools....still got a "B". It's all based on individual schools and individual professors.

But what do I know...I only have experience in actual pharmacy school....

Let me guess. You're from California. Just a hunch. They really like to express the theoretical benefits of having a BS over there. If it's repeated enough, people actually start to believe it.....

Whoah there cowboy. That is a bold statement. 2 years worth of pre reqs vs a BS really depends on the individual schools and individual professors just as you stated for determining GPA. You say it is difficult that you had 2 whole semesters of 3 lab classes. In my undergrad I have 4 semesters of 4 lab classes per semester in addition to multiple semesters of 3 lab classes per.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

But you'll probably discount my opinion since I am from Pittsburgh.

Yes. Yes I will.....damned Yinzer....

Though I root for the Steelers, too. Hang out up there all the time. They know me on a first name basis at Dave & Busters. If it was a casino, I'd have weeks of comped rooms by now...

 

[GatorChick09]

..I just don't have the pedigree these new fangled whipper-snappers do.

LMAO...did you really just say "fangled whipper-snappers"?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Whoah there cowboy. That is a bold statement.

I'm a crazy, bold son of a bitch who rarely makes any sense at all. Where the hell have you been? Don't you people read the PharmD forums..god...

I don't even know why the hell I'm awake at 2:15 AM. Shouldn't I be asleep...?

2 years worth of pre reqs vs a BS really depends on the individual schools and individual professors just as you stated for determining GPA. You say it is difficult that you had 2 whole semesters of 3 lab classes. In my undergrad I have 4 semesters of 4 lab classes per semester in addition to multiple semesters of 3 lab classes per

Ok, fine, that's you. The folks I'm thinking with a BS took like 2 at most per semester. Of course regular-ass WVU isn't exactly ****ing Harvard.

I still stand by my proclamation that you are better prepared after two years only. I remember vividly sitting in Medicinal Chemistry, easily recalling the **** I learned last year in Organic Chemistry as the folks with a BS in god knows what are trying to remember **** from, like, 4 years ago. Get the relevant **** out of the way as fast as possible so it's easily retrievable when you actually need it.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

LMAO...did you really just say "fangled whipper-snappers"?

It's new-fangled whipper snappers. Without the leading "new" it makes much less sense, there, whipper snapper. I'm an old man. I'm 24 years old...I don't even REMEMBER undergrad...

 

[Hels2007]

So what? My alma mater's incoming class had GPA over 3.7 for years and years. 😛 Of course, we are only a small state school in a state no one ever wants to visit, so we don't count. 😀