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[kappa505]

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What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

 

[superfinger45]

What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

Nope, just because people want to help others does not mean that they don't want nice things for themselves also, your lying if you say you don't. Plus, when the stress is heavy like before finals or dec 1st, its nice to think of how your going to reward yourself down the line. I bet if you posted a thread or poll and asked how many people want to have a "tight whip" or their equivalent AND help others, almost everyone would say they do. I know that in my personal statement I said that I wanted to help others and that I liked the lifestyle the profession allows.

 

[dddsmack]

What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

Stop the bull ****. I have never "wanted to help poeple". No way in hell you give your first profit to anybody.

 

[superfinger45]

Stop the bull ****. I have never "wanted to help poeple". No way in hell you give your first profit to anybody.

This is going to get interesting...

 

[kappa505]

Stop the bull ****. I have never "wanted to help poeple". No way in hell you give your first profit to anybody.

Thats fine if you dont think so, but some people out there really meant what they said on their application.

 

[dddsmack]

I am sure there are poeple who are more charitable than others. But the first profit you make, you are giving away?

k

 

[superfinger45]

I am sure there are poeple who are more charitable than others. But the first profit you make, you are giving away?

k

Agreed, no way I give my first profit to any charities...by the time I get my first profit I'll need a charity just to bail me out of my massive debt. Plus I have a family to feed and my wife will have suffered enough through dental school, I'm buying her a huge thank you gift.

 

[kappa505]

Thats what I said on my personal statement and will surley follow through. I am really not in it for the money. I have been a member since early in 2005 and every class that comes through here ends up showing their true colors....greed. It just sucks that some adcoms fall for the lies.

 

[dddsmack]

My personal statement is something that you have never seen.

Go ahead give all your money away and reap your glory. It is possible to do nice things and not tell people about them.

 

[kappa505]

My personal statement is something that you have never seen.

Go ahead give all your money away and reap your glory. It is possible to do nice things and not tell people about them.

You stated above that you would do nice things.

 

[Turnerjo13]

I agree with superfingers. One of the attractive aspects of the dental profession is that it allows you to live very comfortably and enjoy some of the finner things in life. After making it for ourselves we will be in a position to give back. I personally plan on driving my nice car to the local free clinic to do some dental work for those who are less fortunate. A good friend of mine who is quite wealthy once said: "I wanted to make all of this money so I could give it away"
Just because we want to make a lot of money doesn't mean that we don't mean the things that we said in our personal statements.

good luck!

 

[dddsmack]

your e-fighting sucks, go to bed

 

[TONItheSURFER]

What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

umm..dude. don't you have your LOANS to pay for??

 

[superfinger45]

Thats what I said on my personal statement and will surley follow through. I am really not in it for the money. I have been a member since early in 2005 and every class that comes through here ends up showing their true colors....greed. It just sucks that some adcoms fall for the lies.

saying you want to help other people in NO way means that you want to give away half your profits. adcoms don't fall for that stuff, they see the same letters every year. Plus, they probably don't care, they don't have the time to be personal statement police, if you want to lie go for it. If you think you HAVE to say you want to be a dentist to help others then your missing out on what dentistry is, helping others is a bonus but there are a thousand other reasons you could write in your statement.

 

[kappa505]

umm..dude. don't you have your LOANS to pay for??

The interest on student loans are low. I will be fine skimming by for a while to give back to the community that I came from.

 

[dddsmack]

Maybe that is why LOU and VCU ignore me, I didn't say I wanted to help poeple and give away all my earnings.

Oh well, over a dozen other schools to worry about on friday.

 

[kappa505]

Maybe that is why LOU and VCU ignore me, I didn't say I wanted to help poeple and give away all my earnings.

Oh well, over a dozen other schools to worry about on friday.

Well I am glad that you have that kind of money to throw at schools and play the odds. I am sure that you will make a fine and caring dentist.

Good luck on Friday.

 

[superfinger45]

The interest on student loans are low. I will be fine skimming by for a while to give back to the community that I came from.

I think your being a bit selfish here, first of all, first year dentists make ok money but nothing like an established dentist...giving away 30-40 grand after your first year is nice and all, but wouldn't it be better to wait, make sure your practice is well rooted to ensure that you can continue giving to your community for the long haul. Seems kinda selfish that your willing to take that risk, you should get out of debt as quick as possible so that you don't get into financial problems. Also, when you get out your going to have way more than student loans to worry about...how about buying a practice ect.

and in the words of dddsmack "It is possible to do nice things and not tell people about them." Have you ever thought of this? or are you gonna make your community name a baseball field after you?

 

[dentstd]

Ronald McDonald can make money by some other means. We need dentists now.

If you want to make a difference, don't give half your profits away. Take medicaid and/or charge less to the needy. That's how you make your mark.

Hate to say this, but dentistry is attractive to lots of dumber people looking to get rich and don't necessarily care about others. The smart people who want to get rich go to medicine. They may or may not care about others. If you care about others and want to give back, charge less. Or work at a university part-time. (Ex. MUSC dentists do fillings for free and charge $35 for extractions.) Dentistry shouldn't be just a means to buy a yacht.

 

[superfinger45]

Ronald McDonald can make money by some other means. We need dentists now.

If you want to make a difference, don't give half your profits away. Take medicaid and/or charge less to the needy. That's how you make your mark.

They may or may not care about others. If you care about others and want to give back, charge less. Or work at a university part-time. (Ex. MUSC dentists do fillings for free and charge $35 for extractions.) Dentistry shouldn't be just a means to buy a yacht.

I agree with this part of what you said.

 

[kappa505]

I think your being a bit selfish here, first of all, first year dentists make ok money but nothing like an established dentist...giving away 30-40 grand after your first year is nice and all, but wouldn't it be better to wait, make sure your practice is well rooted to ensure that you can continue giving to your community for the long haul. Seems kinda selfish that your willing to take that risk, you should get out of debt as quick as possible so that you don't get into financial problems. Also, when you get out your going to have way more than student loans to worry about...how about buying a practice ect.

and in the words of dddsmack "It is possible to do nice things and not tell people about them." Have you ever thought of this? or are you gonna make your community name a baseball field after you?[/QUOTE]

How about being an associate?

Dont get mad if I am attacking your ethics, when was the last time you thanked your mom for all of the nice things that she does for you.

 

[4thQtrDreams]

I think I will donate more than half of my first year salary to whom ever holds the notes on my loans😀 ...

once those are taken care of (hopefully within 5 years after D-School) i hope to establish a practice and once thats up and running i hope to open up an office in the not-so-affluent area in NYC where i grew up where i can do dental work on those who cant afford it for free once a week... hopefully money i make elsewhere will enable me to afford to do that.. I think its easy to give money to charities.. its much more difficult to give your time..

 

[superfinger45]

Dont get mad if I am attacking your ethics, when was the last time you thanked your mom for all of the nice things that she does for you.

wtf does that mean? did you realize that what you said was kinda foolish so now your gonna bring my mom in? Please fill me in...

 

[kappa505]

I am glad to see that there are some kind hearted people out there still. Even some that will eventually be in a prominant position soon.

 

[superfinger45]

I think I will donate more than half of my first year salary to whom ever holds the notes on my loans😀 ...

once those are taken care of (hopefully within 5 years after D-School) i hope to establish a practice and once thats up and running i hope to open up an office in the not-so-affluent area in NYC where i grew up where i can do dental work on those who cant afford it for free once a week... hopefully money i make elsewhere will enable me to afford to do that.. I think its easy to give money to charities.. its much more difficult to give your time..

exactly

 

[Eid]

kappa505, i think your plans for the first paycheck are wonderful! If you're really sincere about it i hope.
SDN folk make me feel like expressing that I really want to help people through my career is lame. o well. i do! i don't know where ppl get off quoting that 'dentists have high suicide rates'... wouldn't dentistry be a satisfactory and rewarding job?

Cuz of the patients or the money .. you all decide for yourselves, each person's entitled to their own perspective.

 

[kappa505]

wtf does that mean? did you realize that what you said was kinda foolish so now your gonna bring my mom in? Please fill me in...yspos

I dont know what that means.

I was just illustrating in simple terms how people who do alot for others sometimes go unthanked. And they just need to point it out sometimes. I was not trying to be personal so sorry you took it that way.

 

[superfinger45]

I dont know what that means.

I was just illustrating in simple terms how people who do alot for others sometimes go unthanked. And they just need to point it out sometimes. I was not trying to be personal so sorry you took it that way.

Trust me neither my mother or father go unthanked. What do you think about donating your time instead of your money, theres always more money to be had, but time isn't something you get back. I bet your community needs your time more than your money.

 

[kappa505]

I live in the sort of community that would not take my time. They would much rather have money than free/discounted dental work. What does yssob or what ever stand for.

 

[4thQtrDreams]

I am glad to see that there are some kind hearted people out there still. Even some that will eventually be in a prominant position soon.

I think a lot of us are just wrapped up in the Whole Dec. 1st thing..
we've all worked hard the last few years and this is the culmination of all that work... I think we all are allowed a little time to be selfish and self absorbed.. hopefully a lot of us will grow up during our years in dental school.. and those of us that are already "Grown-up" will remember why we decided to go to dental school , and what things were like before..

but for now.. lets bask in our own glory and brilliance..

.. lets all just agree to return to reality sometime before classes start next August (or July for those of us dying for UoP) 😀

 

[dentstd]

There are millions of people in the country who are in desperate need of dental work. Some can't sleep at nights without overdosing narcotics to numb the pain. Some can't eat without feeling excruciating pain and now look anorexic. Worse, they can't afford dental care (in part cuz we all will charge so damn much!).

If you want to take a hack at this problem in America, donate your skills to some of these people occassionally. ...take in 2-3 patients every couple of weeks who are one of those people above and do their procedure for free. Treating a couple free patients a month would hardly affect your ability to buy your yachts. But it'll make a world of a difference to those who are slowly dying from dental problems.

No need to "donate" 20-30K per year. The world needs your skills more than your money. Let the CEO's and other people donate money. The world needs our expertise in our trade more.

 

[superfinger45]

There are millions of people in the country who are in desperate need of dental work. Some can't sleep at nights without overdosing narcotics to numb the pain. Some can't eat without feeling excruciating pain and now look anorexic. Worse, they can't afford dental care (in part cuz we all will charge so damn much!).

If you want to take a hack at this problem in America, donate your skills to some of these people occassionally. ...take in 2-3 patients every couple of weeks who are one of those people above and do their procedure for free. Treating a couple free patients a month would hardly affect your ability to buy your yachts. But it'll make a world of a difference to those who are slowly dying from dental problems.

No need to "donate" 20-30K per year.

Clap Clap (standing) clap clap

 

[4thQtrDreams]

There are millions of people in the country who are in desperate need of dental work. Some can't sleep at nights without overdosing narcotics to numb the pain. Some can't eat without feeling excruciating pain and now look anorexic. Worse, they can't afford dental care (in part cuz we all will charge so damn much!).

If you want to take a hack at this problem in America, donate your skills to some of these people occassionally. ...take in 2-3 patients every couple of weeks who are one of those people above and do their procedure for free. Treating a couple free patients a month would hardly affect your ability to buy your yachts. But it'll make a world of a difference to those who are slowly dying from dental problems.

No need to "donate" 20-30K per year.

👍 agree completely!

 

[4thQtrDreams]

By the way... Awesome attitude 😉

Have I given you this link yet? I cant remember.

Here it is anyhow.

http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

 

[dentstd]

http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

Screw you too. 😱

 

[M3Nick]

lmao @ this post... this guy is FTL if he is gonna give away his first profit to charity.. obviously we want to help ppl but we also want to help ourselves by busting our ass in school to make a good living

 

[tissy]

I don't think giving money is helping people!! I think by using your skills on people who can't afford dentistry will be even more profit from what i've seen in my life...Now thats giving and wonderful!!

 

[tissy]

Let me clarify the money part...we will probably trying to establish ourselves so we can keep up with doing what we love..then the donating... 😉

 

[Envision]

What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

I applaud your generosity. however, actions speak louder than words...tell us if you carry through 4 years from now. I certainly plan to help my community, however, i never made a promise to give away half my earnings. I do hope/plan to volunteer my services at a free clinic. i guess in an indirect way, I would be giving up part of my earning. Also, i think giving away money isnt neccessarily the best way for me to help my community. I am a dentist, not a lottery, what i offer won't be money per se, but what i am trained to do...dental care. lets hope we are all true to our words.

PS: Think about the airplane safety protocol...insure your safety first...then you will be better equipped to help those around you. Just some food for thought.

 

[AnonymousADCOM]

kappa, i commend you for your generosity. if you do intend to do what you said you would, then great. i just hope you dont turn out to be a lot of the jaded (new) dentists whose only wish is to make tons of money for him-/herself. i, for one, want to use to my skills to tend to people internationally. this is crap most of you probably put in your PS, but i'm dead serious about this one. i've spent some time outside of the US (not mexico, in a different continent), and the problems i've seen with some friends i have made planted in me a desire to use my skills in foreign grounds. i think donating money is fantastic. but if you look at some of the kids in south la, they have some bling stuff. if you want to help these people, i hope you dont donate your money; instead, mentor them to make wise decisions about financial expenditures and fixing their teef not by giving them grills. as for incidents like the tsunami in india, donating money would be better off. i just hope you make the right decision when you get your first profit. ronald mcdonald? if they do great things for communities, then awesome. i'm glad you have the desire to share your wealth. i plan on doing similar things, but i think i'll spend my first profit to pay off a part of my debt, take care of me and possibly my wife, and pay for my parents' trip to hawaii.

 

[AnonymousADCOM]

(Ex. MUSC dentists do fillings for free and charge $35 for extractions.)

that's frigging awesome.

 

[Mackerel]

Some can't sleep at nights without overdosing narcotics to numb the pain. Some can't eat without feeling excruciating pain and now look anorexic. Worse, they can't afford dental care (in part cuz we all will charge so damn much!).

Doesnt this type of patient sound like a drug seeker?

 

[KOM]

Maybe that is why LOU and VCU ignore me, I didn't say I wanted to help poeple and give away all my earnings.

Oh well, over a dozen other schools to worry about on friday.

Haha. Did you know a dentist that graduated from VCU recently donated 3 million to the dental program? That's the highest donation they've ever received.

That's a hefty salary right there.

 

[kappa505]

As far as the amishrakefight link. That was meant to be funny. I am sure that alot of you guys emailed that link to your friends.👍

I was simply pointing out that I have not seen any, "where to donate time/money" threads on this forum. It is not my fault if some of you out there are so defensive about this topic. Maybe you know deep down that your way of thinking about the profession is wrong. It is so easy to get all of you dental professionals out of your comfort zone by simply talking about money. You have alot to learn.

 

[OSUDDS]

🙄

 

[jim85213]

As far as the amishrakefight link. That was meant to be funny. I am sure that alot of you guys emailed that link to your friends.👍

I was simply pointing out that I have not seen any, "where to donate time/money" threads on this forum. It is not my fault if some of you out there are so defensive about this topic. Maybe you know deep down that your way of thinking about the profession is wrong. It is so easy to get all of you dental professionals out of your comfort zone by simply talking about money. You have alot to learn.

....or maybe ppl on here are a little bothered by your self-righteous approach. If your heart is truly in the right place about this, then you wouldn't need to parade how wonderfully charitable you will be someday. I do commend your intentions though.

 

[kappa505]

....or maybe ppl on here are a little bothered by your self-righteous approach. If your heart is truly in the right place about this, then you wouldn't need to parade how wonderfully charitable you will be someday. I do commend your intentions though.

Or, maybe ppl are upset because I am forcing them to look deep into who they are and it is scaring them. It does not matter what I say on this forum, in four years ppl from this site will be so full of themselves that it wont matter. It is a sad situation that someone becomes attacked because they make a positive decision about their money. Especially when the attacks are rooted from peoples feeling of resentment because my actions make them feel greedy.

I didnt start this thread to get praise, I assure you. Simply to make people think. Gain another perspective if you will. I will not be responding to any more threads posted on this. If there are further remarks, pm me. I will be glad to continue.

 

[OSUDDS]

omg. people just have different plans and ideas than you. its ok! get over it!

 

[dentalwife]

What happend to all of the "I want to become a dentist to help people" attitudes that I am sure everyone had on their personal statements and elaborated on during their interviews. I for one still really want to help people and am not concerned about getting a "tight whip" with all of money that I am going to be raking in. I am going to donate half of my first years profit to the Ronald McDonald foundation. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

maybe you will be donating half of your first year profits to the student loan bank of your choice.

 

[armorshell]

Don't get your foot caught in the saddle when your stepping off of your high horse.