AZCOM Class of 2008

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minoos--Check out www.northstar.org for private loan info. They are far superior to Sallie May because they don't charge origination/guarantee fees. They have excellent payback options with the way they capitalize their interest. I got my federal and private loans through them. I have been really impressed with their customer service reps. too. Thats my two cents, anyway.
 
I just got into a great house about a mile and a half from campus and I am looking for housemates. Pets are welcome (I have two dogs and a cat) and the rent is cheap, especially compared to where I am coming from in Long Beach, CA. The house is a 3-bedroom so I am looking for two roommates. You can also find more info on roommates.com. See you all Aug 25!
 
So where is everyone going to live? I will be at Arrowhead Highlands. Will anybody else be there?
 
I want to wish you all luck at AZCOM. I was picked up off the waitlist, but had already committed to NOVA. My interview at AZCOM was great and the school rocked!
 
theags said:
So where is everyone going to live? I will be at Arrowhead Highlands. Will anybody else be there?

I'm not in Highlands, but I'm virtually right next door in the Sage Stone apartments. It was a little bit cheaper, but still close enough to campus that I can walk/ride my bike if I want to.
 
Hey Melmc
What Sagestone building did you move into. I am in 17. PM me if you wish.
cya around
 
theags said:
So where is everyone going to live? I will be at Arrowhead Highlands. Will anybody else be there?
My family and I are living in Surprise. We got a 3 bedroom house for 770/mth. As soon as we get settled in completely I'll try to set up a Pre-orientation party to meet everyone. See You in a mth or so.
 
I am gonna move into the condo that is on Arrowhead Country Club Drive and 79th Ave...5 minutes from school.


btw has everyone recieved their fainential aid letter? i still havent gotten mine and was wondering whether that is normal
 
Exia,

By now, I think you should have it. If not, just call the FA Office to find out what is going on. BTW, the townhouses in Arrowhead are pretty nice. I think that you will enjoy living there. Close to school and pretty safe. Can't wait to meet all you new AZCOMers this fall. You'll have a blast this year!

Cyndi
 
For loans, you can also look into NowLoans. That is the one I did and it has worked well--no fees, etc.
 
theags said:
So where is everyone going to live? I will be at Arrowhead Highlands. Will anybody else be there?
I'll be there too, but I'm not sure what building or apartment #. Seems like there are a lot of students who live there.

Has anybody had (or heard of) any bad experiences with private loans? Anything that I need to be careful of or watch out for? I just got my award letter and it looks like I'll have to get at least some private loans. Should I just pick a lender and apply? Any advantages/disadvantages to certain lenders?
 
Thanks for the info. By the way, how's the weather down there? I've been watching it on the internet and it looks like it's been up to as high as 112.
 
It's incredibly hot 🙁

Hello class of ?08. I hope that all of you are enjoying your summer. My name is Chuck and I am a 2nd year at AZCOM.
A lot of you probably have a bunch of ?housekeeping? Q?s about the start of school (books, insurance, equipment, etc.). Please feel free to send a PM my way and I will gladly lend you any info that I can.

Do you all have you school email accounts yet??

I am hoping to send out an informational packet through SOMA (Student Osteopathic Medical Association) with all kinds of info about the beginning of school an orientation. I will likely be sending it to you all as a bulk email to your ?azwebmail? accounts.
Again, I hope that you are all ?enjoying? the summer. Read lots of ?non-medical? stuff, watch lots of TV, etc.
 
sl12 said:
Thanks for the info. By the way, how's the weather down there? I've been watching it on the internet and it looks like it's been up to as high as 112.

Yeah it's been hot! I am sure you get used to it, but we've been spending alot of time indoors.
 
and the classrooms are set at 62 degrees...you'll go to class with pants and jackets! 🙂 🙂 🙂
 
If anyone is interested in buying furniture...I have a love seat available that is less than a year old. PM if you're interested or have any other questions about AZCOM.
 
😛 YIPPIE I finally moven into my apartment. I am at Arrowhead Fairways (sp?) or whatever the complex is called....on Arrowhead Clubhouse DR. Anyone else live here? I need help figuring out the association stuff...like do we get a gate opener and a pool key??? and what is this talk about cable??? do they pay gor a certain package?....yea and other various nuicences....SIGH

right now i am searching for furniture and a bed....soooo freaking frustrating...i want 2 bang my head against the wall...sigh... :meanie:


hej which internet service provider is best in arizona??? right now i have cox but so far they seem 2 be not as good as what I had in chicago(i had comcast).
 
I'd stick with COX. I had comcast when I moved from MN and thought they were pretty good too, but COX has been great. They never seem to have service outages (at least in my area) and they are cheap and fast. I have downloaded game demos at over 2500K/sec on several occasions...and QWEST just sucks--they claim "customer service," but we had to get rid of a home phone line altogether because they kept adding services w/o asking us first. If you're lucky like me, you can sign up with COX on their introductory web deals, get your cable modem paid for via their rebates (new COX customers only), and then cancel your TV service back to "basic" after the promotion ends. When we did that, we still had all the standard channels available. We currently pay 15 bucks a month and get everything but the movie channels. The high speed internet is another 35 bucks. I doubt you're gonna beat that. And no I am not with COX...officially.

For furniture, check out Ashley furniture. There's one on Bell btwn 59th and the arrowhead mall. I don't know the address, but it's on the north side...you'll see it. They have nice stuff for much cheaper than most furniture stores...you just have to wait a couple of weeks for delivery. If you don't mind waiting longer, IKEA is coming sometime this fall. The sooner the better in my opinion.
 
When we moved down to AZ, Qwest gave us someone else's phone number. Sometimes our calls would get to us, and sometimes they'd go to the folks that had the number for like 4 years. And sometimes their calls would get to us. Very frustrating.

So we call Qwest to change the number. They don't believe us that we have someone else's number, so they say they'll call us back at the number. Of course, they get the other people. So we call back and talk to the same rep, who is now very nice and gets us a new number. She also promises us that there will be no charge.

So the Qwest bill comes next month, and sure enough, there's a huge charge for a new phone line. We call Qwest back, they pull up the work order, which says nothing about about giving us someone else's number. After a few minutes of haggling (and threatening to just switch to Cox), they promise to waive the fees, and we should have no problems.

So the next month comes, and the new phone line charges are gone. But now we've got service charges because we called about the unfair billing. By this time, I was tired of dealing with these folks, so I just paid up. It wasn't worth the aggravation.

A couple of months later, we get a call asking us if we'd like to get thier high speed DSL service. Only "$50 a month, with a discount on a cable modem, and installation is free". I'm thinking that I've heard this before.

All part of their Spirit of Service.

For all you 2008ers, avoid Qwest like a plague.
 
San_Juan_Sun said:
For all you 2008ers, avoid Qwest like a plague.

So what happens if your apartment managers insist that Qwest is the only "available" service provider for your apartment complex? I live at Sage Stone at Arrowhead and as far as I can tell, Qwest is the ONLY option. Can they do that? 😕
I've had Qwest in the past, and I can verify that the billing and "customer service" horror stories are true! We have even had some very similar situations as those mentioned above.
 
melmc said:
So what happens if your apartment managers insist that Qwest is the only "available" service provider for your apartment complex? I live at Sage Stone at Arrowhead and as far as I can tell, Qwest is the ONLY option. Can they do that? 😕
I've had Qwest in the past, and I can verify that the billing and "customer service" horror stories are true! We have even had some very similar situations as those mentioned above.

Get a cell phone, and don't hook up your phone. Or move. Or, if you like to live dangerously, go with Qwest.

On another topic, do you 2008ers have your school emails yet? I really need to make an effort to get in touch with my little brother.
 
San_Juan_Sun said:
On another topic, do you 2008ers have your school emails yet? I really need to make an effort to get in touch with my little brother.


yea we have our e-mail.....i haven't recieved any e-mail from big bro/sis....but i have gotten the (crappy) award letter so the e-mail is up



those of u in HPSP.....we only get to borrow abotu 5 grand after the loan fees are taken off??? that sucks....i am moving from far away and will use up more 2 jsut get all my stuff.... 😡 😡 😡

and on anotehr note....why are the damn loan fees $577???can u say ripoff???
 
Hey Furniture Buyers

When I needed furniture a few months ago, I found the best deals at MOR furniture, located on Bell and 57th in the Walmart plaza area. They had the lowest prices in town. They also have a pretty big selection. My salesperson was named Jennifer. She was very cool and helped out a lot. She's the best so ask for her.
hope it helps
 
I agree totally with San Juan Sun...don't even bother setting up a home phone. Get a cell phone instead. I avoided it until this year; then tried it and found its easier and cheaper than having a home phone and answering machine. T-mobile will give you a free phone with a one year committment, and if you have a significant other like me, you can both get phones and share 400 minutes for about 40 bucks a month. The best part of the deal is whenever you call another t-moblie phone, it's free (and those minutes aren't deducted from your allotment). Check out the plans online and see which company would work best for you. Qwest is craptacular. Don't use them.

Exia...5 grand doesn't do much does it? Everybody on HPSP gets that nasty surprise in the fall. If you didn't go to COT/OCS/whatever, you could go Active duty while in school by doing the Campus Tour (at least in AF). I have a classmate with a home and a 2y/o to take care of and it helped her quite a bit. I was thinking about selling plasma last fall, but turned right around after walking through the door of Aventis? in S.Glendale. It was dirty and stunk...there was no way I was gonna open my veins up in that place!
 
It was dirty and stunk...there was no way I was gonna open my veins up in that place!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i would go with the cell phone thing too (if it wasn't for tivo)
a classmate has it set up to where if he talks to his wife it doesn't charge either of them minutes...
after a month of comparing we got cox internet, cable, and phone. we havn't had a single issue with any of the services.
enjoy your summer everybody!!!
 
Why don't you just stay in the dorms. You only have to pay your electric bill. Cable and internet access are free. And if you carry a cell phone, you most likely won't need an additional home line. Most of us at azcom don't carry one. The dorms are new so they aren't some crummy old asbestos ridden one that you probably slept in during your freshman year in undergrad. You will save about 300 to 400 a month just staying on campus. If you want to leave during second year, it's understandable but you might want to stay on campus your first year to acquaint you with everything.
 
azcomdiddy said:
Why don't you just stay in the dorms.



i assume u r talking 2 me??? i dont remember seeing dorms...i remeber seein apartments with nasty teal carpeting that woudl drive me up the wall... :meanie:

anyways i actually wanted 2 live there at first....

anyways i jst got a regular phone cause my parents wanted me 2 get one...i have given up on telling them that i can take care of myself...anyways it is only 11 bucks(yea i know i could actually afford some food if i didnt have a phone 🙄 )

i have a cell also...wondering whether to stay with verison....seems t-mobile might be ok too

anyone know anything about dental insurance from school? is it any good.
and 2 HPSP people...will army pay for it??? as in will the school bill them directly?
 
I bought my furniture at "The Room Store" (I think that is the name) on 59th and Bell. They were pretty cheap and delivery was free (which is great in HOT AZ). For a bed, there is a Seeley store right across the street from the library and the OMM clinic (by the Subway). They had pretty good deals last year, and again, delivery was free (I think).

I agree with the rest, get a cell phone...

Living on campus makes life pretty easy. I am even going to do it ONE more year, for simplicity sake, of course :luck:

Dental insurance at school sucks if you ask me. I had a check-up and cleaning and I still paid about $200.00. They didn't pay for the X-rays or the initial consultation (which was required for the new dentist I went to). It is only like $100 for the year or something, but I'm not sure what good it is having it. Who knows, maybe I did save a lot, but it still seemed expensive to me. I couldn't imagine what I would have to pay out-of-pocket if something was actually wrong.

Anyway, I should get back to "work." Hope all of you are having a relaxing and enjoyable summer. See you in a couple of weeks.

Matt
 
MDmiracle said:
Yeah it's been hot! I am sure you get used to it, but we've been spending alot of time indoors.

The reason why it's a 112 degrees is because it is dry. If it rained a little more or had some more trees etc; it would be 95 degrees like it is in many cities in the U.S. It really is common sense. The dryness is what causes the elevation in heat but it doesn't mean that 112 in Phoenix is like 112 where you live. Does that make sense? You will see what I'm talking it. There will be an afternoon in which it will rain all of sudden. The thermostat in your car will drop from 110 to 88 in 20 minutes.

What's the moral of this story? The heat is overrated kids. Ignore it. It's not as bad as it looks on TV. Florida, Texas and most of the midwest is far worse than this heat because you don't feel like you have to take a bath as soon as you walk outside and you never have to worry about mosquitoes and annoying pests when you go out at night.
 
About the dental insurance -- maybe irish just got ripped off by his dentist. The insurance costs $80 for the whole year. It's not insurance, it's a discount program, which a lot of new dentists buy into to build their patient population. The $80 covers you, your wife, kids, etc. I recall a cleaning with x-rays costing me around $60. It saves you about 50% if I remember right, which comes in handy if you happen to have a cavity.
 
adamj_ut said:
About the dental insurance -- maybe irish just got ripped off by his dentist. The insurance costs $80 for the whole year. It's not insurance, it's a discount program, which a lot of new dentists buy into to build their patient population. The $80 covers you, your wife, kids, etc. I recall a cleaning with x-rays costing me around $60. It saves you about 50% if I remember right, which comes in handy if you happen to have a cavity.


😀 😀 😀
kool i gots cavities that need filling
 
k this may be stupid but i am not really a person who likes or needs to go 2 class. i have found most classes to be a waste of time...i am also doing grad school online (now thinking it is 2 much work and i shoudl jsut shoot myself for doing a dual degree....waht was i thinking???). anyways.....

what are the MSI classes that you can ditch???? and also any hints and tips about classes woudl be appreaciated.
 
Going to anatomy is a must, in my opinion. I think you'll get varied opinions about biochem (which I never went to). Make sure you go for the first week or two, and figure out what you can miss, and what classes you'll be required to go to.
 
I think I DID get ripped off, perhaps I need to switch dentists. Come to think of it, the whole office did seem a little ghetto?those shady dentists (j/k)?

I thought OMM (quizzes), Neuro and Gross/Histo were the three classes that were "musts" to go to. You can obviously skip Human Behavior--nothing exciting comes out of those early morning, Friday lectures. I always skipped Physiology and Immunology and I got A's in both, so I wouldn't worry about either of those (though I'm sure they are sometimes interesting?especially now that Dr. Katz is gone). I went to Biochem, but only b/c I liked it. I think it depends more on the person. Each student will be different and it will depend on what classes you have already had. I agree with the previous poster, go to the first couple of weeks and get things figured out and you will be able to decide which you can skip and which you should attend.
 
irish79 said:
I think I DID get ripped off, perhaps I need to switch dentists. Come to think of it, the whole office did seem a little ghetto?those shady dentists (j/k)?

I thought OMM (quizzes), Neuro and Gross/Histo were the three classes that were "musts" to go to. You can obviously skip Human Behavior--nothing exciting comes out of those early morning, Friday lectures. I always skipped Physiology and Immunology and I got A's in both, so I wouldn't worry about either of those (though I'm sure they are sometimes interesting?especially now that Dr. Katz is gone). I went to Biochem, but only b/c I liked it. I think it depends more on the person. Each student will be different and it will depend on what classes you have already had. I agree with the previous poster, go to the first couple of weeks and get things figured out and you will be able to decide which you can skip and which you should attend.

Katz is gone? Wow, only a little more house cleaning to go in that department....I remember when we evaluated Micro at the end of the course in 2nd year, one of classmates wrote the comment, "In regards to this class, I am considering suing the school for neglect."

MS I--must go to anatomy and neuro--that's all. Histo--there used to be slides on various webpages that I used. Biochem--I did better when I quit going, although Dr. Gardner's lectures were good....Immuno blew dog. Physio--I actually thought they were good lecturers, but found it easier to study the mass of material without going. The one class I would put a plug in for attending on general principle is Dr. Schwartz. I (along with much of my class) thought he was such an arse in 1st year, but it's amazing how much I use, even still, from his class.

Dentists--Try Dr. Mark Gaona on 79th Avenue, just south of Union Hills. Might be a little pricey, but he's outstanding.

Heat--diddy, we usually agree, but not on this one. 112 sucks donkey balls. Dry heat my ass. Humidity, or lack thereof, is meaningless at 110 degrees.
 
Boomer said:
Katz is gone? Wow, only a little more house cleaning to go in that department....I remember when we evaluated Micro at the end of the course in 2nd year, one of classmates wrote the comment, "In regards to this class, I am considering suing the school for neglect."

MS I--must go to anatomy and neuro--that's all. Histo--there used to be slides on various webpages that I used. Biochem--I did better when I quit going, although Dr. Gardner's lectures were good....Immuno blew dog. Physio--I actually thought they were good lecturers, but found it easier to study the mass of material without going. The one class I would put a plug in for attending on general principle is Dr. Schwartz. I (along with much of my class) thought he was such an arse in 1st year, but it's amazing how much I use, even still, from his class.

Dentists--Try Dr. Mark Gaona on 79th Avenue, just south of Union Hills. Might be a little pricey, but he's outstanding.

Heat--diddy, we usually agree, but not on this one. 112 sucks donkey balls. Dry heat my ass. Humidity, or lack thereof, is meaningless at 110 degrees.


Who else do you think needs to go in Micro? Collins and KokJohn both have tenure. Unfortunately Katz didn't. Those first years better thank people like me because we just made your Immuno course that much easier.

I still love dry heat. I remember playing football and soccer in Sarasota, FL in the summer and I will take this heat over that heat anyday.
 
azcomdiddy said:
Who else do you think needs to go in Micro? Collins and KokJohn both have tenure. Unfortunately Katz didn't. Those first years better thank people like me because we just made your Immuno course that much easier.

I still love dry heat. I remember playing football and soccer in Sarasota, FL in the summer and I will take this heat over that heat anyday.

One of the two whom you mentioned could be upgraded. I agree that Katz was the largest problem, however one could make some arguments re: the "leadership" in terms of the micro course.

I grew up in Tulsa, OK. Not far behind FL in terms of humidity (only without the water to enjoy--real funny one, God). I'll take my 96 degree summer days there v. 112 in Phoenix. Plus, in the rest of the country, summer goes away. It was still 100 a few days in NOVEMBER last year (after 100 degree days began in April). Oh well, if all you can bitch about is the weather in Phoenix, then life isn't too bad.....
 
Are the notes and syllabus that good that you can know where the class is and what you need to be studying without going to class? I know it's kinda a newb question but I have never had a class where the teachers notes and syllabus were that good.
 
MDmiracle said:
Are the notes and syllabus that good that you can know where the class is and what you need to be studying without going to class? I know it's kinda a newb question but I have never had a class where the teachers notes and syllabus were that good.

Most of the notes are very good (for 1st year classes). Here's my opinion, which may or may not be shared by my classmates:

Anatomy/Embryo./Histo: Very good notes. So good that you could skip class if you wanted to. On the other hand, just attend class and save half the time learning the material.

Biochem: also very good notes. I never went to this class and did well. There are required workshops, but only for 2 hours a week. But, the workshops do present material that will be on exams, so it's not a total waste.

Physiology: I never went and did well. The notes are good, but sometimes are a little vague depending on the lecturer. It also gets annoying when a certain faculty types a 10 page introduction for 8 pages of notes. But it's not a big deal.

Neuro: Same as anatomy. I quit going the 2nd half of the quarter this class is taught, and did much better when I quit going. It all depends on if the notes click for you.

ICM: A how-to-be-a-doctor kind of class. The notes are horrible, but the class is actually okay sometimes. It's 3 hours on Thursday mornings. I found myself skipping out to play ping-pong as the year went on.

Behavioral Science is a joke. But, if attendance falls off the instructor gets mad.

Immunology: The worst class of the year. Horrible notes, poor instructors, and boring-as-Hades material. Going to class is probably helpful, if it doesn't make you poke a sharp stick in your eye.

All in all, having the notes in your box every week is a huge advantage. No noting-taking services. No taking notes yourself.
 
if it doesn't make you poke a sharp stick in your eye.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
you'll see as the year goes on how different everyone is...i'm not as smart as san juan sun...i needed to go to class to feel on top of things, plus, it helped me recognize the material when i studied it on my own. With that in mind, i would agree with most in saying that anatomy/histo/embryo and neuro are musts...just to see the structures and get a feel for what the professors focus on. (plus, these are some of the strongest subjects taught at azcom, imo) Phys was a disappointment, just because the material was so interesting but i didn't like how it was presented. that easily may change for you (you aren't with everyone else now...just do's and podiatric med)
i enjoyed icm, lecture much more than notes, important stuff but it did get tough to stay awake near the end. Human Behavior was the same for me...i enjoyed it and it helped when studying that one night before the exam...but that is because i am a rock and don't learn as fast as some of my amazing classmates.
the notes are great! i wouldn't suggest buying too many books. I have a bunch of atlases (i bought two and was given two), netters, rohen, and that's about it...the notes are super, sometimes i used a book or board review type deal if something wasn't clear to me.
 
thanks for the clarification!
 
jhug said:
i wouldn't suggest buying too many books. I have a bunch of atlases (i bought two and was given two), netters, rohen, and that's about it...the notes are super, sometimes i used a book or board review type deal if something wasn't clear to me.

This is a pretty important point in my opinion. You can literally spend hundreds of dollars.... to open a book once or twice.

Use the notes, buy a couple of books (like the ones listed here, or ask your big bro/sis), wait a few weeks and see what you need. The bookstore isn't going anywhere, and neither is eBay.

One quick plug: I bought a bunch or board review books this summer from AmazonMarketplace. Got 12 books for $190 (BRS Physiology, Micro Made.. Simple, Robbins Path). I highly recommend this route, especially for books you know you'll need, like Netter's or Lippincott's Biochem.

And jhug: check your PM.
 
i wouldn't suggest buying too many books. I have a bunch of atlases (i bought two and was given two), netters, rohen, and that's about it...the notes are super, sometimes i used a book or board review type deal if something wasn't clear to me.

And...joining SOMA gets you a new Netter's atlas and cd rom!! 👍
 
And...joining SOMA gets you a new Netter's atlas and cd rom!!
oh-yea...and i have a medical dictionary...it helps a TON, in EVERY class...and it just so happens that by joining the AMA you get one FREE!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
(in all honesty, the dictionary does really help)
 
ok, I've been away for awhile...

about this heat...

I'm a native so I speak on authority here. I spent 6 weeks this summer in the midwest. I can tell you that their "hot" days are not even comparable to the neverending hot as a hair dryer and a can of mace*** summers that we experience here in AZ. People were hot in Chicago and St Louis on days when it was - ooooh - 90+. Was it humid? sure. Was it like that every freaking day like it is in AZ for 4 months? No. It would be like that for a day or two and then be nice. And that's what gets to be a drag here in the summer - how unrelenting the heat is - like at midnight when it's still 95 or late September when the highs are still in the 100s.

I love it here, though. I'll put up with a sizzling summer over a freezing winter anyday.

*** bonus points for those who know the band, name of the song AND album referred to here. 😉
 
U2---New York

but don't know the album....the new one
 
Boomer said:
Biochem--I did better when I quit going.....
.




:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
that happened to me in many classes before...i did better when i quit going...that is why i posed the question.... :meanie:


one calc class.....i think i actually started getting more stupid every thine i went 2 lecture :meanie: yea aint life grand???
 
What you have to understand is that our summers are like your winters. I went to college in Chicago so I can attest to the overated summers in Phoenix. In the midwest, it gets worse at night during the winters because it gets more cold. In Phoenix, it gets better at night because of the shade and dropped temperatures. You will discover that at night during the summers, the heat is quite bearable. Sure, during the day it is hell but none of you will be working in construction so you don't need to worry about it. You will be in air conditioned areas the entire. The worst thing you will face will be walking to your car or class.

Our summers are worse than your summers but there are positive things about our heat too. You don't worry about mosquitoes biting you during an outdoor event because they don't survive in the heat here unless you live near a pond. It's nice being able to chill in your backyard without having to spray repellant or slapping your legs every 5 minutes like you do in the midwest. And nearly everyone here has a swimming pool including your apartment so you can always cool off in a pool. I can't take a dip in a pool of blistering lava in February in Chicago if I need to warm up. And you never sweat in your own apartment or house in Phoenix because of the dryness. In the midwest, you can sweat at night in your own house despite the airconditiong which is annoying. That is disgusting. Just last weekend, I was attending an outdoor party in St. Louis at night. I and others started to sweat despite the temperature being in the mid 80's. In Phoenix, people go out to bars and clubs at night and drink on the patio and never crack a sweat. It's definitely hot but you don't start sweating profusely like you do in the midwest. And no I'm not fat either.

Lastly, there is the lifestyle issue. The heat in Phoenix does not disrupt your lifestyle like the winters in the midwest. Schools are not shut down because of heat. Roads are not closed because the tar melted. Flights are never canceled because of snow or ice on the tarmac at our airport. Accidents aren't caused by a increase in temperature a decrease in temperatures can lead to ice formation on the streets. You never fear getting out of bed in the morning because it's so cold outside like you do in Chicago winter. In fact, the mornings in Phoenix are quite beautifull and people hike or play golf in the early morning. In the midwest, mornings are terrible because it's so cold. I don't have to start my car 15 minutes before I leave just to warm up my car. I don't de-ice my windshielf in the morning or freeze for the first 10-15 minutes of my car ride to work. Getting reading in the summer is easy. It's called putting on some flip flops, shorts and a tank top. If you are running late to class, it will take you 5 minutes to get ready; I don't put on three layers of clothing including gloves and a hat.


later guys
 
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