AZCOM Discussion Thread 2010-2011

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Some preliminary match data:

-17 scrambles of 150 (=11%)
-25% IM
-19% FP
-17% ER
-7 ortho
-70% ACGME match
-1 (not certain on # but certain of at least one DO match) ENT

Not sure when more detailed info will be available.
 
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Sloo0 said:
I was wondering what was causing the price to be so high.
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Essentially the fact that since it's a private school without a bunch of research grants, super-wealthy alumni donating to it left-and-right, etc. tuition is used to cover all but 3% of the total expenses for the school. From that tuition, 59% goes towards wages and benefits for employees, 16% to the vague category or "maintenance, interest, and depreciation," 14% to utilities, 3% to supplies, 3% to clinical teaching costs, 3% to administrative support, and 2% to insurance.
 
And the "free" parking permits, dont forget.
 
Sloo0 said:
And the "free" parking permits, dont forget.
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I would've included that, but my assumption is that it's located somewhere in the additional $600+ in fees not included in tuition, just like the occasional "free" meal and ice cream social.
 
I was wondering, how often and when is the simulation lab used?

When I was interviewing at CCOM, I bought up the fact that they don't have a simulation lab and was told by a prof that it's mainly used to teach complex procedures during post-graduate (residency) years and some in the upper (rotation) years. I was informed that it's not really "essential" in med school and was more of a fad that schools use to lure students. Anyone have any thoughts about this?
 
BDancerDoc said:
I was wondering, how often and when is the simulation lab used?

When I was interviewing at CCOM, I bought up the fact that they don't have a simulation lab and was told by a prof that it's mainly used to teach complex procedures during post-graduate (residency) years and some in the upper (rotation) years. I was informed that it's not really "essential" in med school and was more of a fad that schools use to lure students. Anyone have any thoughts about this?
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As MS1's, the curriculum only has us using the simulation lab when we have a standardized-patient encounter during spring quarter. That being said, I'm in the anesthesia club and we had an intubation workshop where we worked on the dummies and I know the MS2's use it more often, I'm just not certain for what though. So hopefully Flushot or another 2nd year can enlighten us...Clearly though, it isn't an "essential" thing given the fact that docs were being educated well-before sim labs existed, but I think they serve a purpose if utilized properly.
 
Flushot or randomusername, have you guys gotten ahold of the class of 2011 match list yet?
 
Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.
 
rls303 said:
Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.
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Haha I was playing along with that because we sporadically have these "free" events but most people seem to forget we paid all of those activities fees for the "free" stuff during first quarter.

If there's just a link on the side menu, that's not the checklist people are talking about. The checklist should actually show up in the main portion of the screen if I'm remembering correctly.
 
rls303 said:
Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.
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The tab on the side showed up for me sometime before my interview if I remember correctly. Random is right, something will show up on the main screen when you click on that link once you're accepted. Good luck! :luck:
 
Hi all!
AZCOM does not interview for waitlist, we have spots, not our email or perhaps sent in error not sure
 
randomusername said:
Haha I was playing along with that because we sporadically have these "free" events but most people seem to forget we paid all of those activities fees for the "free" stuff during first quarter.

If there's just a link on the side menu, that's not the checklist people are talking about. The checklist should actually show up in the main portion of the screen if I'm remembering correctly.
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TANSTAAFL! :laugh:

there ain't no such thing as a free lunch!
 
Hi Guys,

I know I am posting this question on the AZCOM thread so responses will be biased but I was wondering what your opinions are on attending AZCOM vs LECOM?

I know LECOM has the highest passing rates but that is not of interest to me because I don't care about passing but instead getting a high score...High enough to get into a specialty residency.

I don't care about location because it's med school and I will be in the library or studying somewhere most of the time anyways.

As I mentioned earlier, im interested in specializing so does AZCOM send thattt many more students into specialties than LECOM? I searched some and see the data posted above but just wanted to know if anyone knows more?

I'm just really debating if its worth paying like 100k more to go to AZCOM because I found both programs to be great and feel like the curriculum is similar. LECOM is more established and has it's own teaching hospital but AZCOM has great rotations from what I've heard.

Thanks for any advice-
 
7wonders said:
Hi all🙂 I am a current first year AZCOM student and member of the Student Government Association. As of last Friday morning, there were 219 matriculants in the AZCOM 2015 class. I interviewed on April 16 of last year, as did several of my current classmates. Rest assured, you are not interviewing for a waitlist spot. Best of luck with your Spring interviews!
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Thanks for the info. Was just there today and loved it! All the student ambassadors and interviewers were great.🙂👍
 
pdiddy916 said:
Hi Guys,

I know I am posting this question on the AZCOM thread so responses will be biased but I was wondering what your opinions are on attending AZCOM vs LECOM?

I know LECOM has the highest passing rates but that is not of interest to me because I don't care about passing but instead getting a high score...High enough to get into a specialty residency.

I don't care about location because it's med school and I will be in the library or studying somewhere most of the time anyways.

As I mentioned earlier, im interested in specializing so does AZCOM send thattt many more students into specialties than LECOM? I searched some and see the data posted above but just wanted to know if anyone knows more?

I'm just really debating if its worth paying like 100k more to go to AZCOM because I found both programs to be great and feel like the curriculum is similar. LECOM is more established and has it's own teaching hospital but AZCOM has great rotations from what I've heard.

Thanks for any advice-
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If you think all else is equal, save the $100k and go to LECOM because I sure as heck would need more info than a match-list to commit that extra money to my education.

I will point out that the curricula aren't exactly the same unless you're going the traditional route at LECOM since they also have ISP and PBL tracks. Also, when did they get a true teaching hospital (this is news to me)?
 
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Well I thinkkk all else is equal..but am I wrong? (besides location, AZCOM students appeared to be more friendly and obviously the gym and on-campus housing are huge pluses for AZCOM)

I thought I heard during the interview that they have a teaching hospital, but ill research more to confirm. I have been accepted into the Lecture pathway at LECOM so that's why I was saying they are the same, but at least similar.

Thanks for the advice so far, esp since you are a current student.

PS I agree with the above post that the ambassadors were awesome during interview, very friendly and informative and actually wanted to spend time with us ..and interviewers were great.



randomusername said:
If you think all else is equal, save the $100k and go to LECOM because I sure as heck would need more info than a match-list to commit that extra money to my education.

I will point out that the curricula aren't exactly the same unless you're going the traditional route at LECOM since they also have ISP and PBL tracks. Also, when did they get a true teaching hospital (this is news to me)?
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You are going to LECOM-E right?

I think several things account for the savings. The facilities are much smaller and less campus looking. To me, that doesn't really matter, since I'm just here to do whatever. What bothered me a while back was the lack of cadavers. I don't know if this is the case, but I believe now that anatomy is fully digital or a mix between prosected and digital.

I'd hate to bring in the debate here, but it's really up to you if this is a deal breaker, which in retrospect, I could be convinced either way. Anatomy had a lot of fluff in lab with simply cleaning things up to be presentable and I enjoyed the experience, but it's hard to say if it was absolutely necessary.

I could also be wrong and LECOM-E does still have cadavers :laugh: Anyhow, like random said, if you see yourself happy in either location, save some money where you can.
 
I've been looking online at different housing options and thought I'd ask if there were any trailer parks nearby? This probably sounds odd, but I figure it's just as cost effective to rent a trailer (perhaps even more so) and since most of the neighbors would be senior citizens I wouldn't have to worry about too much excitement distracting me from my studies. Any thoughts?
 
fakeyellowlight said:
I've been looking online at different housing options and thought I'd ask if there were any trailer parks nearby? This probably sounds odd, but I figure it's just as cost effective to rent a trailer (perhaps even more so) and since most of the neighbors would be senior citizens I wouldn't have to worry about too much excitement distracting me from my studies. Any thoughts?
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I haven't done THAT much exploring around here but I've yet to see a trailer, never mind an entire park of trailers. Certainly they exist somewhere around Phoenix, but I doubt there are any in the Glendale/Peoria area anywhere near school. Though, I did stumble across a couple of farms in the middle of town awhile back, so who knows...
 
PJ meowerton said:
I'm having a hard time finding apartments that don't have reviews complaining of frequent car break ins, I would think a trailer park would be even less secure, interesting idea tho. You should get an RV and just camp out in the school parking lot 🙂
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Unfortunately, stuff like that is pretty endemic to the Phoenix-area. I know of at least one classmate who lives off-campus that had their apartment broken into since school's started and just last week another classmate's roommate in on-campus housing had their bike stolen in spite of the apartments being gated and having 24/7 security.
 
This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?
 
Sloo0 said:
This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?
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There's actually a decent mix of going-to-class bikers and recreational bikers, just most people that bike to class don't do it consistently (and they certainly aren't a huge population for the total campus) and most people that bike recreationally don't seem to bike to class. I'm not really sure which bikes have been the most common target, but from what I can tell, the people with the nice road bikes tend to not leave there's outside in the elements.
 
Sloo0 said:
This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?
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I ride my bike to school around 75% of the time and to my knowledge the other bikers I have talked to haven't had their bikes stolen (but I guess if they were stolen they wouldn't be bikers then would they). Just for reference, I do have a Giant TCR and I feel pretty comfortable leaving it locked up at school.

Also, the apartment complex I live at is about 5 miles from school and the only time my car was 'broken into' was when my wife forgot to lock the car overnight...
 
PJ meowerton said:
I'm having a hard time finding apartments that don't have reviews complaining of frequent car break ins, I would think a trailer park would be even less secure, interesting idea tho. You should get an RV and just camp out in the school parking lot 🙂
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I was hoping that a trailer park would be even MORE secure. Not a trashy King of the Hill type trailer park but one for senior citizens who ride around on motorized scooters and play shuffle board.
 
Hello everyone,

Is PanOptic Welch Allyn ophthalmoscope really needed for ICM in 1st yr? Even though I will get a good discount from a 2nd yr student, it's still quite expensive.

Just wonder how many of you actually use it for ICM?

Thanks
 
Asianboy said:
Hello everyone,

Is PanOptic Welch Allyn ophthalmoscope really needed for ICM in 1st yr? Even though I will get a good discount from a 2nd yr student, it's still quite expensive.

Just wonder how many of you actually use it for ICM?

Thanks
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Not necessary at all. Also, I'd hold off on buying any equipment until after you start class because the doctor teaching your ICM course will tell you what you need, don't need, and can get by with.
 
okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!
 
amolinari said:
okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!
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Your answer is in bold, the deposit and info will update in a day or two. Go celebrate. 👍
 
amolinari said:
okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!
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Congrats!!! Welcome to the Class of 2015
 
I remember it was a really cool feeling to see that checklist appear and to know I was accepted. Congratulations!
 
thanks everyone for the quick responses! is there a facebook group for the class of 2015 already set up?
 
It seems as if some people are already talking about required books/equipment for fall semester. I've looked around and can't seem to locate this list. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks!
 
fakeyellowlight said:
It seems as if some people are already talking about required books/equipment for fall semester. I've looked around and can't seem to locate this list. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Don't worry about it until, at the earliest, late summer. Supply lists for next year aren't even available yet.
 
just got accepted last night! yay!

i want to do on-campus housing...is it too late?
if not, how do I go about applying?

thanks!
 
My group was interviewed on the 8 - We find out thurs/fri.
 
bubbles17 said:
just got accepted last night! yay!

i want to do on-campus housing...is it too late?
if not, how do I go about applying?

thanks!
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I don't think it was too late. During our tour they said some units were still available.
 
randomusername said:
Don't worry about it until, at the earliest, late summer. Supply lists for next year aren't even available yet.
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Thanks. I'm not really worried about it, just trying to get a grasp on how much it's gonna cost and start keeping an eye out on facebook/craigslist/amazon.
 
Has anyone from the 4/5 interview gotten any new info on the midwestern portal?
 
Has anyone gotten rejected from AZCOM? do you know if they do notify you through the portal system or is it snail mail?
 
nycsemaj said:
Has anyone gotten rejected from AZCOM? do you know if they do notify you through the portal system or is it snail mail?
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Did they tell you when to expect the portal to change? I interviewed 4/8 and they told us to expect the portal to change thursday night or friday morning! Then they told us to call friday if there was no change.
 
decisions have been made, if there is not change in your portal it means you are either an alternate or that you were denied
 
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