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Coopah said:
I get that, especially the cdo lynch. I did that out of pure self preservation, as I have previously explained. If I had not followed STL, it would have been a tie lynch, with me as one of the ties. So seeing as I didn't want to die, I went with the only info I had which was cdo's role reveal. Nobody said anything until after that the role she said appeared in a previous game, so I assumed she made a mistake. I didn't really feel it, but it was better than going off no information whatsoever and potentially me dying.
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I actually didn't realize you were that close to the lead at that point. Some other things have me rethinking as well (as I said, I was still reading).
 
DVMDream said:
Nah....

Lynch abnerrs
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10/10 would waffle again

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Abnerrs said:
I'm going to

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Lynch Jil
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I've just been squiggy about her for a bit now and I just feel like... she's reaching. And I was waiting for her to respond but the length of time (yeah yeah real lives) made me think she's trying to figure out her spin.
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I'd be happy to tell you about my super crap day if you want. +pity+
 
Hmm. Well after Zen's comments today and never responding to her being top of the lynch, I definitely lean strong wolf there. I will stay on Jil though, because I think she's still acting sketchy and I think she will give more info then Zen will.
 
Here are my thoughts about people that have been brought up today in no particular order:

3m hasn't posted a ton in the last couple games and her earlier posts I had her as village, so I'm not to worried about her for right now (Though I'm usually suspicious of her so does the fact that I am not this game, mean she's not village haha)

serher seems to be playing village. I think she has posted a fair amount and given good imput.

Abs voted raf both days. I doubt she's a huge scheming wolf from what I've heard from her and others, but still not sure.

Nessy is a UTR player. I'd keep an eye on her, but I am really bad at reading her play as either wolf or village.

Coop I don't know either. I was sketched out by her last game even though she kept giving me info to show she was village. I think it's just her play style.

I am still sketched out by AM. Ally vouched for her yesterday, so I'm going to leave her alone for now.

Finn is super sketchy. She is very high on my lynch radar. Her posts have been very defensive and not much strategy.
 
So I was going to analyze Jil's off the wall theory to match my Zen read earlier but... I got tired and lazy and have necropsy reports I should be working on instead. The power role hunting theory I don't buy. If anything, neutral-STL picking a random player to get super aggressive about for no reason (or random emoticon "tells") weirdly makes more sense to me than that he was fishing for power roles. I can't tell if her convoluted theories for STL's play are wolfy ie trying to make herself look less suspicious (and weirdly STL more suspicious, I mean we know what he was, he's dead) or village trying to make sense of STL's vendetta against her.

Overall I think this move feels sketchier to me than Zen's off-the-wall theory earlier, especially with others (WZ) saying it feels normal for Zen. Since people seem more inclined to want to test the Jil or Zen situation first, I'll go that way. I do want to keep Abnerrs on the radar though. She's probably where my vote will go tomorrow (as in the next day cycle since I know tomorrow is still technically today).

Lynch Jil

Other people I have wolf-leaning feels for after today: Finn, nessy, coop
Can go into reasons later if requested.
 
kcoughli said:
or village trying to make sense of STL's vendetta against her.
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This makes more sense to me, which I realize now I didn't clarify when I said her theory made me less suspicious. It honestly reminds me of every crazy thing I've ever thought up when trying to make sense of a weird situation as a villager (see: the head bopping blocker, cthulhu, etc).
 
Oh god anatomy review sessions fry my brain, guys. Wish me luck next week though, gonna try and claw my grade up to a C-! :bang:

In actually related to the game-things: I am strongly leaning towards a Zen lynch. Her recent posts and theories have given me tinglies on the back of my neck where Jil's have not. I'm more inclined to believe Jil, if only because she sounds exactly like me being a villager trying to defend myself in the last two games hahaha. I might be totally misled there, but I can come back to analyze that more if necessary.

AM is still very much on my radar as she came in, promised to be better, and promptly peaced out again. Still think she's sketchy. Still will probably lynch vote for her in the next few days.

Also have mild feels for Finn. Just their posts seem sketchy to me, but I've never played with them before. And as a player who apaprently always comes off as sketchy when I am a villager, it feels kind of silly for me to say that but such are feels haha.

Will try to do some more analysis and thoughts tomorrow after I try to reboot my brain from all this anatomy crap in class right now (in other news for anyone who needs a laugh, my dog dissection group was trying to remove a hind leg today, got angry with it and tried to dislocate the hip to speed the process. Literally broke the pelvis in half - in a few places - instead. I guess none of us are going to do orthopedics. Hahahahah)
 
SARdoghandler said:
Also, not casting a vote for Zen yet - likely tomorrow. Simply because I don't know how many votes are in and I don't want to be the person that causes the majority and screws up the entire day/night cycles.
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When the heck does this cycle end? I can't keep track of this to save my life
 
SARdoghandler said:
Also, not casting a vote for Zen yet - likely tomorrow. Simply because I don't know how many votes are in and I don't want to be the person that causes the majority and screws up the entire day/night cycles.
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@SARdoghandler, I just counted the current lynch votes in response to your post. Here is your answer:

Unofficially, it appears as if 12/22 remaining players have not yet cast their lynch votes in D3.
 
Doctor-S said:
@SARdoghandler, I just counted the current lynch votes in response to your post. Here is your answer:

Unofficially, it appears as if 12/22 remaining players have not yet cast their lynch votes in D3.
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Very sorry ... unofficially, it is 10/22 remaining players who ave "not" cast their lynch votes yet.

So, 12/22 remaining players "have" cast lynch votes (so far in D3).

Of course, @dyachei will provide the official tally.
 
Doctor-S said:
I was wondering about @mmmdreamerz. She has not checked into this WW thread today.

I noticed mmm found enough time to check into the main pre-vet forum earlier today. Not trying to be critical at all. I know everyone has a life outside of WW; and I know it's really easy to become preoccupied with other things. Plus, mmm voted to lynch raf before she left yesterday.

Hope @mmmdreamerz checks in today because I'd like to hear her thoughts. I don't have any feelings about her, one or the other (because she hasn't done very much posting in this game ... so I don't know, maybe that's just her way).
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Honestly, I just got busy at work and forgot (my "check in" was pretty early this morning before I got to work). I'll have to go get caught up later in between classes...
 
To everyone still on me:

I have defended my play, specifically why it was bad yesterday. I haven't felt this bad about the theory since the crazy "dark creatures" thing in Fantastic Beasts WW. I admit I don't have other good play points to show.

As I said, I'm busy. I reached the point this weekend where I got headaches from staring at my computer - never had that before, and I'm not enjoying the experience, but I still need to get on here and study. Extra energy, when available, has be used on this game.

I'm the villager blocker. This is the only reason I'm still fighting now. I know we need every power role we can get, and I'm pretty sure asking to get withdrawn from the game is more likely to receive a mod kill than a replacement. Blocked kc night one (highest suspicion was Coopah, but I felt like the only one pushing her on thread and didn't want her figuring out that I was blocker, and I couldn't read her), blocked DrS night 2 (suspicious of her at the time and didn't think a wolf Jilary would be acting after all of the attention on her).

Any more questions?
 
Okay, I didn't a quick run through to try to get caught up from yesterday...

Zensing said:
Well, now I feel stupid for trusting STL. He was so certain about Jil that I figured he had evidence that she was a wolf 🙁.

Guess I'll spend today reviewing her comments without STL bias in mind.
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This comment from Zen came off really strange to me. STL came off sketchy early on and many seemed to agree with this. Why would you A) trust him and B) trust him enough that you trust the lynch he didn't give much reasoning for.

Abnerrs said:
It. Is. A. Game.

I said it slow so it isn't missed this time lol. I'm as invested as much a silly Internet game is warranted in my opinion (sorry dy! I am having fun and playing "seriously"! Love you long time). I'm not going to post a long ass post because I'm not going to spend that kind of time. I'm going to watch people and see how they make me feel and vote the way I think best. And in the process I'm going to have fun and be silly because that's who I am. Not anal retentive.

However. If I'm such a DISTRACTION (OMG wave your hands in the air! Aaaaaaaahhhhhh) then go ahead and lynch me because you'll be down someone without an ability and be less distracted to boot.
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Sorry Abnerrs but this came off a little too defensive to me (which may make sense, but idk it read strange). Not my top wolf candidate but definitely a possibility in my mind.

Jilary said:
Sorry guys, I've had an absolute crap day. I've been skimming to keep up when I can, but haven't had time to make a coherent post especially in light of the events of last night. I felt good about the raf vote and I'm glad that netted us a wolf.

Initially I was surprised that STL hadn't tried to kill me when I saw he was the serial killer, since he seemed so convinced I was a wolf, but it's starting to make sense. There was no "tell", he was just trying to out those with roles because he didn't want them around any more than the wolves did. That's also why he switched off me d1, he didn't really want me to be lynched, he wanted me to live through the night so he could look for evidence of someone feeling strongly that I was a villager, revealing they were the seer (less so tracker). Thankfully that plan didn't work as he either didn't ID anyone with a role, or if he did he decided to wait to kill them and now he can't 😀. I can't say I noticed anyone saying anything roley, but I'm also not villager hunting, so those details may not stick out as much to me unless they are super obvious. I'm not sure I understand his kill of Ny, assuming that was him, which I think is quite likely. I would have thought if he was trying to play for the village he'd have gone after someone that people voiced suspicion of, and I had Ny leaning village, and don't recall her being someone people were suspicious of. I don't agree with Trilt that it was somewhat of a "good" thing, good would have been taking out a wolf or someone sketchy, which to me solidifies he was not out to help the village. When he revealed my "tell" yesterday, I really just thought he was being a stubborn idiot, and thought he was less likely sketchy, I was apparently wrong about that.

Ok, now I must go feed myself and my fur-kids. This post is way longer than I intended to post from my phone, so sorry if it's all over the place.
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This totally confused me. It just seems a little too complicated of a theory. I mean, I guess I could see STL having an in-depth strategy to find a wolf, but this came off a bit as Jil grasping for straws about why STL wanted to lynch her. Then again we know STL was neutral, so maybe it really was just a random lynch meant to get people guessing and draw speculation away from himself.
 
mmmdreamerz said:
This comment from Zen came off really strange to me. STL came off sketchy early on and many seemed to agree with this. Why would you A) trust him and B) trust him enough that you trust the lynch he didn't give much reasoning for.
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:bang: Keep reading my posts...
 
Jilary said:
Sorry guys, I've had an absolute crap day. I've been skimming to keep up when I can, but haven't had time to make a coherent post especially in light of the events of last night. I felt good about the raf vote and I'm glad that netted us a wolf.

Initially I was surprised that STL hadn't tried to kill me when I saw he was the serial killer, since he seemed so convinced I was a wolf, but it's starting to make sense. There was no "tell", he was just trying to out those with roles because he didn't want them around any more than the wolves did. That's also why he switched off me d1, he didn't really want me to be lynched, he wanted me to live through the night so he could look for evidence of someone feeling strongly that I was a villager, revealing they were the seer (less so tracker). Thankfully that plan didn't work as he either didn't ID anyone with a role, or if he did he decided to wait to kill them and now he can't 😀. I can't say I noticed anyone saying anything roley, but I'm also not villager hunting, so those details may not stick out as much to me unless they are super obvious. I'm not sure I understand his kill of Ny, assuming that was him, which I think is quite likely. I would have thought if he was trying to play for the village he'd have gone after someone that people voiced suspicion of, and I had Ny leaning village, and don't recall her being someone people were suspicious of. I don't agree with Trilt that it was somewhat of a "good" thing, good would have been taking out a wolf or someone sketchy, which to me solidifies he was not out to help the village. When he revealed my "tell" yesterday, I really just thought he was being a stubborn idiot, and thought he was less likely sketchy, I was apparently wrong about that.

Ok, now I must go feed myself and my fur-kids. This post is way longer than I intended to post from my phone, so sorry if it's all over the place.
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Sorry I didn't make it back last evening. This day cycle is really the first time I have had suspicions for Zen, so I think I would rather vote for Jilary right now. I also just saw Zen's post this morning so I will take a closer look at her posts today before doing anything.

I feel like the Jilary vote will just loom over our heads until we finally do it. This post seemed like she was trying quite hard to come up with an alternative theory for STL's actions, so it rubbed me the wrong way. I find it hard to believe that STL would be so aligned one way that early in the game as to want to out power villagers. I want to see a tally before a place my vote, but I'm pretty sure Jilary is where it is going today. Will check in between classes later.
 
I'm not sure I understand the Abnerrs vote. The last time I played with her, she was a converted wolf. She seemed so helpful and happened to know off the bat who was "villager" and made sure to dispel any claims when I was worried about someone.

I don't see her playing that way this time.
 
Please see link below.

Here is what I found:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker

Is that what @Zensing means (and I'm tagging @Zensing right now) so Zen knows that I've read her post and plan to respond to the post?

Is a "villager blocker" the same thing as a "role blocker?"

Does that mean that Zensing is claiming that she blocked me because Zensing is claiming that I am a wolf in this WW game?
 
Zensing said:

I'm the villager blocker. This is the only reason I'm still fighting now. I know we need every power role we can get, and I'm pretty sure asking to get withdrawn from the game is more likely to receive a mod kill than a replacement. Blocked kc night one (highest suspicion was Coopah, but I felt like the only one pushing her on thread and didn't want her figuring out that I was blocker, and I couldn't read her), blocked DrS night 2 (suspicious of her at the time and didn't think a wolf Jilary would be acting after all of the attention on her).

Any more questions?
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...You sure you mean village blocker?

I agree with WZ, these both seem like weird block targets to me.

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Zensing said:
I'm the villager blocker. This is the only reason I'm still fighting now. I know we need every power role we can get, and I'm pretty sure asking to get withdrawn from the game is more likely to receive a mod kill than a replacement. Blocked kc night one (highest suspicion was Coopah, but I felt like the only one pushing her on thread and didn't want her figuring out that I was blocker, and I couldn't read her), blocked DrS night 2 (suspicious of her at the time and didn't think a wolf Jilary would be acting after all of the attention on her).
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So, this should be village blocker, no? Also those are super weird choices for blocks... What was your justification for these Zen?
 
Unofficial lynch tally d3:
abnerrs 1 - DVMD
finn -
Zen 7 - trilt, Coopah, Pippy, LIS, Dr. S, nessy, WZ
Jil 4 - snowshoe, AM, Abnerrs, kc

12/22
 
I just came back to say DrS was a weird choice too (thought more during my walk to school), but you guys got to it already... Thanks guys! Haha
 
awesomenessity said:
So, this should be village blocker, no? Also those are super weird choices for blocks... What was your justification for these Zen?
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Fyi, I was implying she is not village-aligned (i.e. she is maybe the wolf[\B] blocker), not that she spelled village/villager wrong.

I mean, spelling it weirdly could also mean wolfy. But I was more going "huh?" at the voting choices, not the spelling.

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Zen's role reveal really just made me suspect her more, honestly?
 
PippyPony said:
Fyi, I was implying she is not village-aligned (i.e. she is maybe the wolf[\B] blocker), not that she spelled village/villager wrong.

I mean, spelling it weirdly could also mean wolfy. But I was more going "huh?" at the voting choices, not the spelling.

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Ugh, mobile formatting fail.

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According to the Internet cite, I provided above (see post #1138):

"A Roleblocker chooses one player per Night to block from performing his or her night action. The target's night action will not be performed -- that is, the Roleblocker blocks the target's role from working."

If @Zensing is claiming that she blocked me because Zensing is claiming that I am a wolf, Zensing is lying because I am absolutely NOT a wolf.

For that reason, my lynch vote definitely remains:

Lynch Zensing

 
Doctor-S said:
According to the Internet cite, I provided above (see post #1138):

"A Roleblocker chooses one player per Night to block from performing his or her night action. The target's night action will not be performed -- that is, the Roleblocker blocks the target's role from working."

If @Zensing is claiming that she blocked me because Zensing is claiming that I am a wolf, Zensing is lying because I am absolutely NOT a wolf.

For that reason, my lynch vote definitely remains:

Lynch Zensing
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You already voted him yesterday. 😉
 
PippyPony said:
Fyi, I was implying she is not village-aligned (i.e. she is maybe the wolf[\B] blocker), not that she spelled village/villager wrong.

I mean, spelling it weirdly could also mean wolfy. But I was more going "huh?" at the voting choices, not the spelling.

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Lol speed-reading has failed me. But yes, agree on all counts. 😛
 
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