Backing out of a Contract

[IlDestriero]

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On the off chance that someone may find this in a search in the future, from my fairly limited experience, physician contracts often have enforceable clauses regarding terminating the agreement. Before you sign a contract, it is in your best interest to understand how to terminate it, and what that means. Examples would include, returning on the signing bonus, noncompete clauses, how much notice is required, etc. I could give you some specific examples but I think the OP is just trolling so I'm not going to waste my time.
Good luck


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Il Destriero

 

[anny44]

On the off chance that someone may find this in a search in the future, from my fairly limited experience, physician contracts often have enforceable clauses regarding terminating the agreement. Before you sign a contract, it is in your best interest to understand how to terminate it, and what that means. Examples would include, returning on the signing bonus, noncompete clauses, how much notice is required, etc. I could give you some specific examples but I think the OP is just trolling so I'm not going to waste my time.
Good luck


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Il Destriero

I love it when people say they have evidence to back their claim but don't want to waste their time showing it. Kinda Trumpish. You have over 6000 posts, pretty sure your time isn't that valuable.

 

[IlDestriero]

I'm not sure what evidence you want. That contracts have enforceable clauses? That signing a contract commits you to something, and their may be repercussions to unilaterally breaking your agreement? Who knows what your contract stipulates? You didn't tell anyone. I've seen one agreement that's 10 pages long with about 50 individual items, and that was just for a consulting job that I do. Others, like my current one was quite brief, though very specific about some things, like termination.
As was noted above, the people you signed with may not even care at all. That's very different from not being able to enforce your signed employment agreement.
Good luck.


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Il Destriero

 

[Crayola227]

What you are saying is false. I've done a search and no such threads were listed. Most likely you are talking out of your as.s. If not, prove it and point us to said thread.

For $35 that person may have deleted the thread by becoming a Bronze member. I did a number of searches for the particular one and combed through 14 pages of watched threads I have (every thread I respond to is automatically watched for me) and couldn't find the one in mind.

Sorry I can't find the anecdote on here. Sorry if whatever I said seems so outside the bounds of reason that my summary of what I read on this site doesn't satisfy you.

I didn't think you were a troll. Now you're essentially picking on the one person in this entire thread that was trying to be diplomatic and helpful to you.

 

[Goro]

:troll::troll::troll::troll::troll::troll:

For $35 that person may have deleted the thread by becoming a Bronze member. I did a number of searches for the particular one and combed through 14 pages of watched threads I have (every thread I respond to is automatically watched for me) and couldn't find the one in mind.

Sorry I can't find the anecdote on here. Sorry if whatever I said seems so outside the bounds of reason that my summary of what I read on this site doesn't satisfy you.

I didn't think you were a troll. Now you're essentially picking on the one person in this entire thread that was trying to be diplomatic and helpful to you.

 

[DoReMiFaSo]

Been trying to get rid of this headache for the past 2 hrs. I tried turning off lights, eating food, drinking water, sitting still, laying down (both prone, supine, and lateral recumbent,) and suboccipital release, all to no avil. Just read this thread, which captured my entire focus and made me forget about my headache. Im sad now that im done reading. The headache is coming back wahh T.T

 

[rokshana]

I didn't seek ******ed advice and this thread was made prior to contact with said attorneys. Someone can say jump off a cliff. I'd reply that that's a ******ed answer.

you posted a stupid question and now are not happy with the answers you got here...are you new to sdn? you ask a question here, expect to get answers that range from helpful to critical...if you can't handle that, you shouldn't start threads...

 

[Dr Nicholas Riviera]

I’m debating between two job offers and am wondering what the forum thinks about the two:

1. Job 1: In the same city where my wife runs a business with her family. Her cut of the business is ~300k/yr. The business does require alot of work from my wife but my wife doesn’t mind continuing to work. Her parents are available to help with babysitting the kids. If we move to a different city from her family business she won’t be able to continue with the business and would essentially lose her income. The job I’ve been offered in this city is an employed position with quite a bit of turnover for the doctors. The pay is ~360k for me with potential to make more if I see more patients later. Though it’s a very competitive city so it’d be hard to make more than 500k there.

2. Job 2: In a different and much more beautiful city closer to my family (but still too far to get any help with my kids from family (ie 5-6 hour drive). The job pays about 400k/yr with no guarranteed partnership position but the likelihood that i’ll make partner in 5-10 years. There’s no bonus pay with this job. Partners make ~7-900k/yr.

Which would you choose?

So which one did you ditch out on?

 

[anny44]

you posted a stupid question and now are not happy with the answers you got here...are you new to sdn? you ask a question here, expect to get answers that range from helpful to critical...if you can't handle that, you shouldn't start threads...

Actually you're right, I shouldn't. Too many dumb people talking out of their as.ses.

 

[IlDestriero]

Yea, you post absolutely no details, get the expected generic advice, including some stupid and useless advice probably by premeds, and are not satisfied that it didn't meet the same standard as a contract attorney who you hired to actually review the specifics of your contract?
Wow, what a surprise!

Here's the take home that you probably knew before you posted, but might be useful for future readers, "it depends" and "contact a local contract attorney, preferably one who is familiar with medical contracts."

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Il Destriero

 

[Crayola227]

To my count, it was at least 10 MDs, and only 4 students

 

[Law2Doc]

Yea, you post absolutely no details, get the expected generic advice, including some stupid and useless advice probably by premeds, and are not satisfied that it didn't meet the same standard as a contract attorney who you hired to actually review the specifics of your contract?
Wow, what a surprise!

Here's the take home that you probably knew before you posted, but might be useful for future readers, "it depends" and "contact a local contract attorney, preferably one who is familiar with medical contracts."

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Il Destriero

Actually he got advice from a number of doctors including one who used to write contracts for a living. Just for other people besides the OP who might have legitimate questions: Contracts are binding enforceable agreements. Most are pretty specific in terms of whether and how you can get out of them and what consequences, if any, are going to be involved. So you want to read it before you sign it.

No actual lawyer is going to tell a client, "don't worry about it, people reneg on contracts all the time". That's called legal malpractice. No lawyers will say this. They might say, "let me make some phone calls and see what I can do", but they aren't going to tell you to breach. Now there might be a way, through phone calls and mutual agreement, to get out of a bad contract if the opposing party concedes he's not particularly damaged, chooses to be a nice guy or is willing to relinquish his rights. That can happen. And more easily replaceable people out there may be able to "get away with" committing a breach knowing there's not that high a likelihood an employer would ever bother suing them for what might really be minimal damages- the guy with no special skills who can be replaced in an instant probably isn't so worried you'll be damaged if he bails. But no lawyer is ever going to advise you to do this, because you are incurring POTENTIAL liability, someone will have the right to sue you and prevail, and again you need to really know the terms of your contract before doing this. Hopefully this post is helpful to people who actually have legitimate questions. Don't sign if you aren't ready to be bound, and read the contract first so you'll know the consequences. And get a lawyer if you don't understand what you are signing.

OPs question wasn't whether they should stay at a job they didn't like. Rather, he asked, can he break a contract without consequences. The answer is legally no. From a practical point of view the answer is "it depends". That's the answer. Then OP went on a troll rampage insulting people and saying he had advice from a "leading" contract attorney, then it became two, and so on. So the initial question was IMHO a valuable one for this board but OPs subsequent inflammatory participation in this thread, not so much.

 

[Winged Scapula]

There should be a tool where you can ban someone from your thread.

I think I know one...😏