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Drakulie said:
Honestly, i don't get all this nervousness. To me, it just seem childish, i am not you guy's parent but you guys all need to grow up a bit. When i passed this exam, it was only being offered once a year. I knew if i didn't pass, i would had to wait one more year. But it didn't make me nervous at all, my philosophy was, "so what if i didn't pass this time, i can just take it again next year" and i was already thinking more elevated thinking in terms of HOW can we improve this exam ? so that it will be more indicative of true test of clinical ability in real life patients so that We can become better clinicians so we can BETTER help our patients, that we all took the OATH to do. I passed but that in itself didn't offer me any relief or satisfaction at all.

PLEASE you all,,,, Remember your OATH... OATH you all took to do everything you humanly possible to help your patients. That is ONLY thing that really matters in your career. Don't ever forget.
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I feel like you are incredibly rude and inconsiderate and and condescending to me and other people here.

First, you claimed that the passing score of 500 is “too low”. But when others asked you what your passing score was, you didn’t even respond. I feel like you are laughing at us and implying that we are stupid, which is very unprofessional to your fellow pharmacists.

Secondly, you kept saying you passed etc etc and said that your test was harder. How did you know your test was harder than ours? You didn’t take our exam. Good for you for passing but there is no need to brag about it to everyone’s face here. I feel like your EQ is very low. Are you struggling with personal interactions daily at work and in family?

Thirdly, I understand why you don’t give a damn to passing or not because you passed. But we do. People studied a lot for it on top of full time job and other obligations. A lot are at stake. If you cant sympathize with others who are anxiously waiting for the results, I would really appreciate you can remain silent.

Fourthly, about the oath that we took and elevating the profession… that was the most vain thing I have ever heard.

please be humble, there is no need to laugh at others to show off your achievements.
 
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TiredofWaiting1 said:
100% agree. Can't even seem to get an interview. I'm hoping having the letters changes that.
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And if we did get a job, 45/hour while the ivory tower pharmacists like Drakulie enjoy that lushous 70-80-90/hour day shift, weekdays, potentially with pensions and retiring at age 55

I wonder if there have been BCPS pharmacists who have applied for residency recently lol. Even if I pass, I might have to apply for a residency for long term thinking anyways

Some clinical pharmacists have literally told me to just join a 24 week coding bootcamp instead of studying for BCPS again if I failed, as computer science folks occasionally have WFH jobs as the norm and easily earn >45/hour without begging haha

In the employers defense, I understand why its an easier decision to hire an ASHP residency trained board certified pharmacist vs a candidate with neither qualification. So sometimes we just gotta play by the rules and get a BCPS and a residency to get a job.
 
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Around the time I graduated 7 years ago, a DOP interviewed and offered a night shift 7/7 job that paid 82k a year, at a 800+ bed AMC. I said just 82k? he said he's sorry and its embarrassing but that's just what the market is, but said it'll grow with annual raises etc. Probably the biggest career mistake I've ever made turn that 82k job down. Another classmate of mine took it, about 11 months in, transferred to day shift and is now up to the 100s+ lol
 
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Drakulie said:
Wow,, That is super low. Was the test really hard or something this time ?? LOL. I don't get that. When i took it i know it was much higher than that somewhere in mid 500 range. That is a shame they are passing people with that low of a score 500.
I know you guys studied hard and i want you guys to pass but still 500 is low score,, man. This is Why i have always said this Board cert Exam for pharmacist is a sham and is NOT reflective of true clinical ability of a particular hospital pharmacist.

This exam needs some serious overhaul. Like adding Verbal exam in addition to written exam. similar to waht physicians do. Ok then international people can't fly over and do this as easily,,, So what,,,,,,,,,,,, what does that matter
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Given the BPS has a proprietary non-transparent scoring scale of 200 - 800, you can't conclude that 500 is super low. We have no idea what a 500 translates to on a raw scale. Does a 200 mean the raw score is 0/175? Does a 800 mean a perfect score? Who the hell knows. A 500 today may have meant a 550 "back in the day." The BPS scoring system totally reminds me of this wonderful scene:
 
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Drakulie said:
Wow,, That is super low. Was the test really hard or something this time ?? LOL. I don't get that. When i took it i know it was much higher than that somewhere in mid 500 range. That is a shame they are passing people with that low of a score 500.
I know you guys studied hard and i want you guys to pass but still 500 is low score,, man. This is Why i have always said this Board cert Exam for pharmacist is a sham and is NOT reflective of true clinical ability of a particular hospital pharmacist.

This exam needs some serious overhaul. Like adding Verbal exam in addition to written exam. similar to waht physicians do. Ok then international people can't fly over and do this as easily,,, So what,,,,,,,,,,,, what does that matter
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I don't think MDs have a verbabl component. None of my friends ever mentioned that.
 
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PD1inhibitor said:
And if we did get a job, 45/hour while the ivory tower pharmacists like Drakulie enjoy that lushous 70-80-90/hour day shift, weekdays, potentially with pensions and retiring at age 55

I wonder if there have been BCPS pharmacists who have applied for residency recently lol. Even if I pass, I might have to apply for a residency for long term thinking anyways

Some clinical pharmacists have literally told me to just join a 24 week coding bootcamp instead of studying for BCPS again if I failed, as computer science folks occasionally have WFH jobs as the norm and easily earn >45/hour without begging haha

In the employers defense, I understand why its an easier decision to hire an ASHP residency trained board certified pharmacist vs a candidate with neither qualification. So sometimes we just gotta play by the rules and get a BCPS and a residency to get a job.
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Where are you located? If you don't want to say I understand. I will say that every major city is simply BRUTAL. The competition is fierce. The applicants we get have a minimum of a residency or certification or they get thrown in the trash. Sad but true. Experience doesn't seem to count for much these days unless it becomes the deciding factor when all other metrics are equal. If I were in pharmacy school right now I would definitely be stressed. It is really unfortunate that the profession cranked out way too many schools. If any students are on this thread, pursue a PGY2 if you can, it might be the only hope for a job in a major city with a big hospital.
 
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ICUPharm said:
I don't think MDs have a verbabl component. None of my friends ever mentioned that.
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Many specialties have oral board exams in order to become Board Certified.
Mine does.
 
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luke123 said:
What was the passing score before? Also we dont know how they are actually grading these exams. 175 question and the scoring is 200-800 so go figure on what they consider passing. And to your question, I cant speak much except the BCIDP exam, and the exam was difficult because the questions didnt match the materials or how one would even practice. The questions were so off the rails, might as well have gone in blind.... It was not at all what I expected from a professional exam.
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That is exactly like BCPS exam .
 
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So........ next week, huh?

Actually at this point I would not be surprised if scores aren't released by July 31 and the deadline to sign up for fall exams is extended.
 
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I found out where all the BPS scores are. They accidentally got placed inside the Ark of the Covenant. Don't worry though, top BPS men are working on it right now:

 
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So if they don't release the score until after the 60 day mark does that mean auto pass since it falls outside their window?.

Also, I probably will call them tomorrow morning and ask "seeing as the release of the spring test results are taking an ungodly amount of time for an electronic exam. Can we sign up for the fall exam and get a refund if it's not necessary to retake it?"
 
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luke123 said:
So if they don't release the score until after the 60 day mark does that mean auto pass since it falls outside their window?.

Also, I probably will call them tomorrow morning and ask "seeing as the release of the spring test results are taking an ungodly amount of time for an electronic exam. Can we sign up for the fall exam and get a refund if it's not necessary to retake it?"
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I would like to know the answer to that question 😜
 
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luke123 said:
So if they don't release the score until after the 60 day mark does that mean auto pass since it falls outside their window?.

Also, I probably will call them tomorrow morning and ask "seeing as the release of the spring test results are taking an ungodly amount of time for an electronic exam. Can we sign up for the fall exam and get a refund if it's not necessary to retake it?"
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LOL, you could do that but you know they will just retort with saying they are still inside the 60 day window as of now.... : )
 
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ICUPharm said:
LOL, you could do that but you know they will just retort with saying they are still inside the 60 day window as of now.... : )
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luke123 said:
Oh I agree that they could and likely would.
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Don't worry about missing the retake. Not gonna happen. They will always make an exception when it comes to harvesting your $300. I had this same potential dilema last year due to COVID and they told me not to worry at all if I missed the deadline. Luckily I passed the BCCCP at that time so all was moot, but no need for you to worry.
 
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HYMR rapid review starts August 2nd, but we don't have time to review core lectures beforehand if need be.

is anyone waiting for BCPP results?
 
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Looking at last year’s thread, scores were slowly being released on Tuesday, July 28th. If history repeats itself, they may be released early next week.

Go out and enjoy the weekend! The stressing can resume next week lol
 
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Thiokomo said:
Looking at last year’s thread, scores were slowly being released on Tuesday, July 28th. If history repeats itself, they may be released early next week.

Go out and enjoy the weekend! The stressing can resume next week lol
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Yes, I'd imagine by this time next week (7/30/21) we will know some more information. I figure I will just learn here first =)
 
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Just realized the cut off for the fall exams is August 3rd. BPS isn’t leaving a lot of time to make a decision if you don’t pass and want to retake!
 
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I can imagine 2 scenarios for the delay.... either too many people passed and they're trying to figure out what to do about it, or someone (or multiple) key people are on vacation or delayed to provide their input necessary to share the results... still possible they announce all the results at once today or anytime next week though highly doubtful about the weekend haha
 
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PD1inhibitor said:
And if we did get a job, 45/hour while the ivory tower pharmacists like Drakulie enjoy that lushous 70-80-90/hour day shift, weekdays, potentially with pensions and retiring at age 55

I wonder if there have been BCPS pharmacists who have applied for residency recently lol. Even if I pass, I might have to apply for a residency for long term thinking anyways

Some clinical pharmacists have literally told me to just join a 24 week coding bootcamp instead of studying for BCPS again if I failed, as computer science folks occasionally have WFH jobs as the norm and easily earn >45/hour without begging haha

In the employers defense, I understand why its an easier decision to hire an ASHP residency trained board certified pharmacist vs a candidate with neither qualification. So sometimes we just gotta play by the rules and get a BCPS and a residency to get a job.
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I got bcps about 2 years ago and I totally agree with this advise. it just makes my name look good on an email signature. Apart from that it didn't change anything. None of my supervisors have that credentials. I would also like to contribute my time to learn coding rather than doing CEs to maintain this four letters after my name.
 
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Thiokomo said:
Looking at last year’s thread, scores were slowly being released on Tuesday, July 28th. If history repeats itself, they may be released early next week.

Go out and enjoy the weekend! The stressing can resume next week lol
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Lat year was COVID and everything was off. I actually took my test on June 25th and got my results on July 24th!!! So they were crazy fast last year.
 
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TiredofWaiting1 said:
Ok guys! Got an email response! "Scores will begin to be posted to candidates profiles starting next Monday (July 26th) on a rolling basis through July 30th." No mention of a release schedule and no need to keep looking today then 😜.
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Did they say in 2021 or 2022? I don’t trust them anymore 🤣 Thanks for the update!
 
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TiredofWaiting1 said:
Ok guys! Got an email response! "Scores will begin to be posted to candidates profiles starting next Monday (July 26th) on a rolling basis through July 30th." No mention of a release schedule and no need to keep looking today then 😜.
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Wow, well they really are going to be using their full 60 days allotment. So, I should get my score Wednesday (BCIDP) and the BCPS people will get theirs on Thursday of Friday depending on last name.
 
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PD1inhibitor said:
I can imagine 2 scenarios for the delay.... either too many people passed and they're trying to figure out what to do about it, or someone (or multiple) key people are on vacation or delayed to provide their input necessary to share the results... still possible they announce all the results at once today or anytime next week though highly doubtful about the weekend haha
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Or the flipside, too many people failed. I could easily see a 40% pass rate on the BCIDP judging by some of the responses on our thread over there. There were some very well prepared people (not me) that still felt the exam was insane due to the obscure random questions outside the "meat and potato" topics that one would expect. I will be totally shocked if I pass. I've never felt so bad walking out of an exam before. I've actually been studying these past 8 weeks in preparation for sitting for Fall.
 
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TiredofWaiting1 said:
And here I thought I had some kind of inside scoop 😆
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You totally did! I think they updated the website this morning afterwards, probably when they realized its faster then replying to everyone's emails!

A little confused why they can't just knock it out today, but heck just a few more days... I think they use a third party vendor for the IT/database part so maybe those folks are in India or elsewhere already into Friday night/Saturday

Final stretch!!
 
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CC_16 said:
I don’t care when it is released, I need that 500 and a BCPS next to my name.
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I need that BCIDP next to my name. I skipped doing the BCPS and went straight to that. I really need it to help me get this job I applied to and mentioned to them I took the exam...
 
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