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I haven’t seen one educated opinion or reason at all.

Unless all the whales who pounded on 80k for their 20% profit in a day and bailed?
 
sevoflurane said:
What happened today?
Trump bitcoin words backfired?
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Crime season. They’re even letting us know ahead of time. Amazing. This seems like it was an insider pump and dump.

I think we’re gonna see wild swings and an epic blow off top late 2025 or 2026. Trump family getting their hands on crypto will mean short to mid term pain but long term adoption.
 
The thing about that was that trade was made on chain on a DEX. So everyone can see it. All you had to do was follow along. If someone is going 50x 400 mil then yeha it’s safe to say they might know something. I saw the trade posted on twitter a hour after it was made and followed with obviously with a much smaller position
 
sevo00 said:
The thing about that was that trade was made on chain on a DEX. So everyone can see it. All you had to do was follow along. If someone is going 50x 400 mil then yeha it’s safe to say they might know something. I saw the trade posted on twitter a hour after it was made and followed with obviously with a much smaller position
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Do you have a link? That’s interesting to me. Thanks
 
sevoflurane said:
Do you have a link? That’s interesting to me. Thanks
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Onchain analysis is great because you can see flows and movement of coins and open interest on leverage trades. It was pretty clear there was gonna be a pump when someone when leveraged long on a Sunday (little liquidity) and One of Trump’s son tweeting about a “big announcement”

You can also track coin purchases of Trump family crypto firm world liberty financial.

https://x.com/ashcryptoreal/status/1896059260150464839 if you’re interested.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Onchain analysis is great because you can see flows and movement of coins and open interest on leverage trades. It was pretty clear there was gonna be a pump when someone when leveraged long on a Sunday (little liquidity) and One of Trump’s son tweeting about a “big announcement”

You can also track coin purchases of Trump family crypto firm world liberty financial.

if you’re interested.
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TY 👍🏽
 
if anyone here has insight on the next date the President of the United States will manipulate the market (crypto especially but I’ll even accept a pre emptive heads up when one of his sons will be named to a company advisory board) please share so we can all be in on the next grift.
 
Southpaw said:
if anyone here has insight on the next date the President of the United States will manipulate the market (crypto especially but I’ll even accept a pre emptive heads up when one of his sons will be named to a company advisory board) please share so we can all be in on the next grift.
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Follow global M2 and $TNX. That’s the main Ponzi that counts.
 
mentos said:
What's on March 7?
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“The White House will host its first Crypto Summit, where President Donald Trump is expected to announce plans for a strategic Bitcoin reserve. The summit aims to position the U.S. as a leader in digital assets and blockchain innovation. David Sacks, the White House AI and Crypto Czar, will chair the summit, which will include prominent founders, CEOs, and investors from the crypto industry, as well as members of the President’s Working Group on Digital Assets. The event will focus on regulatory policies, stablecoin oversight, and the potential role of Bitcoin in the U.S. financial system. “
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Follow global M2 and $TNX. That’s the main Ponzi that counts.
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I don’t do social media (except SDN) currently. Are these X accounts? Is there a way for me to know otherwise? We need confidence like the 50X leveraged $4 mill bet. I’m willing to go big if we have POTUS insider level confidence.
 
Southpaw said:
I don’t do social media (except SDN) currently. Are these X accounts? Is there a way for me to know otherwise? We need confidence like the 50X leveraged $4 mill bet. I’m willing to go big if we have POTUS insider level confidence.
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Just listen to what a presidents vision (where the money is going) is. Liquidity will move in that direction. The last administration wanted to end crypto and had a vision of solar and wind. Blackrock was fully onboard with ESG and the liquidity went there.

The current administration wants the US to be the crypto capital of the world and wants to massively cut government spending and regulation. I think liquidity will be heading there once the money printers turn on again.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
MicroStrategy Adopts Bitcoin as Primary Treasury Reserve Asset | MicroStrategy Incorporated

2017 was retail FOMO
2020 is the start of corporate FOMO
2024? Nation state FOMO

More people are realizing the value proposition of $BTC and now small and mid cap companies are allocating a percentage of their treasury to bitcoin. Wait till an nation whose currency has failed to the USD (Venezuela, Argentina, Iran, Lebanon, etc) start mining and accumulating BTC. I believe we are at the cusp of a monetary reset.

I’ve been beating the drum here for years. Save your hard work today ($$) for your future time tomorrow. Front run the smart money.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/preside...rveand-united-states-digital-asset-stockpile/


By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Background. Bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency. The Bitcoin protocol permanently caps the total supply of bitcoin (BTC) at 21 million coins, and has never been hacked. As a result of its scarcity and security, Bitcoin is often referred to as “digital gold”. Because there is a fixed supply of BTC, there is a strategic advantage to being among the first nations to create a strategic bitcoin reserve. The United States Government currently holds a significant amount of BTC, but has not implemented a policy to maximize BTC’s strategic position as a unique store of value in the global financial system. Just as it is in our country’s interest to thoughtfully manage national ownership and control of any other resource, our Nation must harness, not limit, the power of digital assets for our prosperity.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to establish a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. It is further the policy of the United States to establish a United States Digital Asset Stockpile that can serve as a secure account for orderly and strategic management of the United States’ other digital asset holdings.

Sec. 3. Creation and Administration of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile.
(a) The Secretary of the Treasury shall establish an office to administer and maintain control of custodial accounts collectively known as the “Strategic Bitcoin Reserve,” capitalized with all BTC held by the Department of the Treasury that was finally forfeited as part of criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings or in satisfaction of any civil money penalty imposed by any executive department or agency (agency) and that is not needed to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705 or released pursuant to subsection (d) of this section (Government BTC). Within 30 days of the date of this order, each agency shall review its authorities to transfer any Government BTC held by it to the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and shall submit a report reflecting the result of that review to the Secretary of the Treasury. Government BTC deposited into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve shall not be sold and shall be maintained as reserve assets of the United States utilized to meet governmental objectives in accordance with applicable law.
(b) The Secretary of the Treasury shall establish an office to administer and maintain control of custodial accounts collectively known as the “United States Digital Asset Stockpile,” capitalized with all digital assets owned by the Department of the Treasury, other than BTC, that were finally forfeited as part of criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings and that are not needed to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705 or released pursuant to subsection (d) of this section (Stockpile Assets). Within 30 days of the date of this order, each agency shall review its authorities to transfer any Stockpile Assets held by it to the United States Digital Asset Stockpile and shall submit a report reflecting the result of that review to the Secretary of the Treasury. The Secretary of the Treasury shall determine strategies for responsible stewardship of the United States Digital Asset Stockpile in accordance with applicable law.
(c) The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce shall develop strategies for acquiring additional Government BTC provided that such strategies are budget neutral and do not impose incremental costs on United States taxpayers. However, the United States Government shall not acquire additional Stockpile Assets other than in connection with criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings or in satisfaction of any civil money penalty imposed by any agency without further executive or legislative action.
(d) “Government Digital Assets” means all Government BTC and all Stockpile Assets. The head of each agency shall not sell or otherwise dispose of any Government Digital Assets, except in connection with the Secretary of the Treasury’s exercise of his lawful authority and responsible stewardship of the United States Digital Asset Stockpile pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, or pursuant to an order from a court of competent jurisdiction, as required by law, or in cases where the Attorney General or other relevant agency head determines that the Government Digital Assets (or the proceeds from the sale or disposition thereof) can and should:
(i) be returned to identifiable and verifiable victims of crime;
(ii) be used for law enforcement operations;
(iii) be equitably shared with State and local law enforcement partners; or
(iv) be released to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705, 28 U.S.C. 524(c), 18 U.S.C. 981, or 21 U.S.C. 881.
(e) Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of the Treasury shall deliver an evaluation of the legal and investment considerations for establishing and managing the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile going forward, including the accounts in which the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile should be located and the need for any legislation to operationalize any aspect of this order or the proper management and administration of such accounts.

Sec. 4. Accounting. Within 30 days of the date of this order, the head of each agency shall provide the Secretary of the Treasury and the President’s Working Group on Digital Asset Markets with a full accounting of all Government Digital Assets in such agency’s possession, including any information regarding the custodial accounts in which such Government Digital Assets are currently held that would be necessary to facilitate a transfer of the Government Digital Assets to the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve or the United States Digital Asset Stockpile. If such agency holds no Government Digital Assets, such agency shall confirm such fact to the Secretary of the Treasury and the President’s Working Group on Digital Asset Markets within 30 days of the date of this order.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
March 6, 2025




For better or worse we are here. The current administration stated on the campaign trail what his plan was and he’s following through.
 
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Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Establishment of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile


By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Background. Bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency. The Bitcoin protocol permanently caps the total supply of bitcoin (BTC) at 21 million coins, and has never been hacked. As a result of its scarcity and security, Bitcoin is often referred to as “digital gold”. Because there is a fixed supply of BTC, there is a strategic advantage to being among the first nations to create a strategic bitcoin reserve. The United States Government currently holds a significant amount of BTC, but has not implemented a policy to maximize BTC’s strategic position as a unique store of value in the global financial system. Just as it is in our country’s interest to thoughtfully manage national ownership and control of any other resource, our Nation must harness, not limit, the power of digital assets for our prosperity.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to establish a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. It is further the policy of the United States to establish a United States Digital Asset Stockpile that can serve as a secure account for orderly and strategic management of the United States’ other digital asset holdings.

Sec. 3. Creation and Administration of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile.
(a) The Secretary of the Treasury shall establish an office to administer and maintain control of custodial accounts collectively known as the “Strategic Bitcoin Reserve,” capitalized with all BTC held by the Department of the Treasury that was finally forfeited as part of criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings or in satisfaction of any civil money penalty imposed by any executive department or agency (agency) and that is not needed to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705 or released pursuant to subsection (d) of this section (Government BTC). Within 30 days of the date of this order, each agency shall review its authorities to transfer any Government BTC held by it to the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and shall submit a report reflecting the result of that review to the Secretary of the Treasury. Government BTC deposited into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve shall not be sold and shall be maintained as reserve assets of the United States utilized to meet governmental objectives in accordance with applicable law.
(b) The Secretary of the Treasury shall establish an office to administer and maintain control of custodial accounts collectively known as the “United States Digital Asset Stockpile,” capitalized with all digital assets owned by the Department of the Treasury, other than BTC, that were finally forfeited as part of criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings and that are not needed to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705 or released pursuant to subsection (d) of this section (Stockpile Assets). Within 30 days of the date of this order, each agency shall review its authorities to transfer any Stockpile Assets held by it to the United States Digital Asset Stockpile and shall submit a report reflecting the result of that review to the Secretary of the Treasury. The Secretary of the Treasury shall determine strategies for responsible stewardship of the United States Digital Asset Stockpile in accordance with applicable law.
(c) The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce shall develop strategies for acquiring additional Government BTC provided that such strategies are budget neutral and do not impose incremental costs on United States taxpayers. However, the United States Government shall not acquire additional Stockpile Assets other than in connection with criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings or in satisfaction of any civil money penalty imposed by any agency without further executive or legislative action.
(d) “Government Digital Assets” means all Government BTC and all Stockpile Assets. The head of each agency shall not sell or otherwise dispose of any Government Digital Assets, except in connection with the Secretary of the Treasury’s exercise of his lawful authority and responsible stewardship of the United States Digital Asset Stockpile pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, or pursuant to an order from a court of competent jurisdiction, as required by law, or in cases where the Attorney General or other relevant agency head determines that the Government Digital Assets (or the proceeds from the sale or disposition thereof) can and should:
(i) be returned to identifiable and verifiable victims of crime;
(ii) be used for law enforcement operations;
(iii) be equitably shared with State and local law enforcement partners; or
(iv) be released to satisfy requirements under 31 U.S.C. 9705, 28 U.S.C. 524(c), 18 U.S.C. 981, or 21 U.S.C. 881.
(e) Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of the Treasury shall deliver an evaluation of the legal and investment considerations for establishing and managing the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile going forward, including the accounts in which the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile should be located and the need for any legislation to operationalize any aspect of this order or the proper management and administration of such accounts.

Sec. 4. Accounting. Within 30 days of the date of this order, the head of each agency shall provide the Secretary of the Treasury and the President’s Working Group on Digital Asset Markets with a full accounting of all Government Digital Assets in such agency’s possession, including any information regarding the custodial accounts in which such Government Digital Assets are currently held that would be necessary to facilitate a transfer of the Government Digital Assets to the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve or the United States Digital Asset Stockpile. If such agency holds no Government Digital Assets, such agency shall confirm such fact to the Secretary of the Treasury and the President’s Working Group on Digital Asset Markets within 30 days of the date of this order.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
March 6, 2025




For better or worse we are here. The current administration stated on the campaign trail what his plan was and he’s following through.
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serious question… why didn’t it pump on this news.
Should have rallied.
 
sevoflurane said:
serious question… why didn’t it pump on this news.
Should have rallied.
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Personally short to mid term I think there’s more volatility in the general economy. I think the economy is contracting faster than the BTC news could pump it. Let’s have this convo later this year or through a full cycle in 4 years.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Personally short to mid term I think there’s more volatility in the general economy. I think the economy is contracting faster than the BTC news could pump it. Let’s have this convo later this year or through a full cycle in 4 years.
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this is what is wacky to me.
the announcement goes live and after hours yesterday to right now it’s down 4+%

That is weird and smells like funny business. I’m looking for a real entry point but it behaves wildly.
 
Definitely could be some manipulation, or leverage liquidations, or just some entity selling be cause they need cash. Not much to worry about catching the bottom if you regularly buy or buy when it’s down a certain percentage. To me, I see an asset still in a bull pattern price wise and just dropped 30% off all time high. It’s on sale imo.
 
It’s very easy to manipulate prices in crypto by big entities and market makers. Hunting liquidity of over leveraged longs, placing market sell spoof orders to force others to sell out of fear of price dropping
 
I would guess manipulation is very high right now. Small business, large corporations and now soon nation states will all be hunting for cheap $BTC from retail. They will use that $BTC as collateral to give to loans and sell financial products to retail. lol. Just hodl.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
I would guess manipulation is very high right now. Small business, large corporations and now soon nation states will all be hunting for cheap $BTC from retail. They will use that $BTC as collateral to give to loans and sell financial products to retail. lol. Just hodl.
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why would the govt want to make it known they are buying btc NOW even if they have a budget neutral way of doing it? They would only spike the price and have to pay more and buy less? Should see this signing as another step of legitimizing this asset class. Alternatively, they could downplay accumulating it but behind closed doors have the capital all ready to deploy during the next bear market and then tell you once its done??

Too much fear in the space now when its more legitimized then ever. IMO i see all this price action as mostly sideways movement. we have been in this 85-95k range for the last 4 months with very little time slightly above 100k in a high interest with a not great macro in Q1. M2 is up and likely continues that way with a weakneing dollar the rest of 2025 and I'll be surprised we dont see a 130-150k ish btc at some point in 2025.
Then in 2029 a 200-250 would be super bearish but I will still be impressed

Personally, if we hit the 130-150 range in 2025 ill be ecstatic and then to get another 50% gain by 2029 in the 200-250 range is also amazing. But if people think they are getting plan b numbers in 2025 that is unlikely and i dont think we will talk much about his models after this cycle and the power law is probabably more in line but will see if that is confirmed this cycle.
 
78k atm

unfortunately, i think this market correction has more to go
 
Splenda88 said:
Waiting for that 100 so I can get in.

I guess I made the right move by selling my shares right before the election.

Elon is an idiot.
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I considered under 220 an xmas present and got filled bc i didnt think it would get there. I think theres still a chance for 190-210 on some post earnings miss but time is running out to get on that.

sevoflurane said:
78k atm

unfortunately, i think this market correction has more to go
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Had a few decent sized positions in etfs fill when we went into the sub 80s.


Either way im not selling anything before 2030. I could care less of the short term noise in both of these things as they will be doubled by 2030 from current prices. So i can get a minimum double in 5 years or 50% in vti over 5 years. I pick the former and thats what will allow me to be part time in 2030.
 
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