Be in-state for more than 1 state?

[ratman7]

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i'm in a weird, yet potentially great, situation.

right now, I live in Arizona and attend college there. However, one of my parents got a job in North Carolina, and will move there sometime before next summer.
i was actually very interested in applying to UNC, Duke, and Wake Forest regardless, and know that they may (UNC especially) prefers in-state students.

thats why i wanted to know if that allows me to qualify as a NC resident. My parents would move to NC and live there at least 9 months-1 year by the time I start applying, and want to know if this makes me an in state resident of NC as well, because I am listed as a dependent of them. Or would I have to get an NC license or something to qualify as a NC resident myself?

however, the MDs in Arizona are heavily in-state biased and I was banking on something here being a viable backup option. would I be able to list myself as in-state for Az and NC, or only have to pick one? should I write NC over AZ because there's more MDs in NC that I would really like to go there?

 

[gyngyn]

i'm in a weird, yet potentially great, situation.

right now, I live in Arizona and attend college there. However, one of my parents got a job in North Carolina, and will move there sometime before next summer.
i was actually very interested in applying to UNC, Duke, and Wake Forest regardless, and know that they may (UNC especially) prefers in-state students.

thats why i wanted to know if that allows me to qualify as a NC resident. My parents would move to NC and live there at least 9 months-1 year by the time I start applying, and want to know if this makes me an in state resident of NC as well, because I am listed as a dependent of them. Or would I have to get an NC license or something to qualify as a NC resident myself?

however, the MDs in Arizona are heavily in-state biased and I was banking on something here being a viable backup option. would I be able to list myself as in-state for Az and NC, or only have to pick one? should I write NC over AZ because there's more MDs in NC that I would really like to go there?

The IS matriculation for AZ (16.8%) is actually lower than NC (28.2%). The median MCAT and gpa is more forgiving, though. You can only identify one state residence on AMCAS. Individual schools have variable ways to grant IS tuition. You need to check on each.

 

[Afford]

You can only pick one. Also, be careful. I'm doing the same thing and I need to make sure I do certain things to avoid losing my Texas state residency. I would read up on how to gain residency in North Carolina for education purposes and how to not lose residency for Arizona purposes and make sure you choose one.

You can also lose residency in one state and not gain residency in another state.

 

[DermViser]

The IS matriculation for AZ (16.8%) is actually lower than NC (28.2%). The median MCAT and gpa is more forgiving, though. You can only identify one state residence on AMCAS. Individual schools have variable ways to grant IS tuition. You need to check on each.

Wow. Why?!?!

 

[gyngyn]

Wow. Why?!?!

So many overqualified CA kids is my guess.

 

[DermViser]

So many overqualified CA kids is my guess.

What does that have to do with Arizona and it's in-staters?

 

[SN12357]

You can only pick one. Also, be careful. I'm doing the same thing and I need to make sure I do certain things to avoid losing my Texas state residency. I would read up on how to gain residency in North Carolina for education purposes and how to not lose residency for Arizona purposes and make sure you choose one.

You can also lose residency in one state and not gain residency in another state.

Absolutely this. You can end up 'stateless' in the process if no medical schools consider you in-state, regardless of where you are physically residing. And at some schools in-state for application purposes and in-state for tuition purposes aren't the same. OP should do their research carefully on the rules in Arizona and North Carolina, looking at the policies for all in-state schools in those states.

 

[gyngyn]

What does that have to do with Arizona and it's in-staters?

The historical acceptance of OOS applicants in AZ is relatively high and it is a neighboring state.
Combine that with around 1.6K CA kids that have to leave the state (even with really good stats). It adds up to a semipermeable membrane.

 

[DermViser]

Their historical acceptance of OOS applicants in AZ is relatively high and it is a neighboring state.
Combine that with around 16K CA kids that have to leave the state (even with really good stats). It adds up to a semipermeable membrane.

I would have thought AZ would be able to find enough in-state kids, but I guess if you have enough CA stellar stat students willing to pay OOS tuition for 4 years (double or triple IS tuition) then it's a win-win for the med school.

 

[gyngyn]

I would have thought AZ would be able to find enough in-state kids, but I guess if you have enough CA stellar stat students willing to pay OOS tuition for 4 years (double or triple IS tuition) then it's a win-win for the med school.

That is my speculation.

 

[DermViser]

That is my speculation.

Not to mention those stellar CA students (from very stellar undergrads), will more than likely go on to become stellar med students who then get into stellar specialties which then makes the med school look even better. Quite crafty on their part.

 

[minor.groove]

as others have said, this has more to do with the "IS" requirements of the various schools and not so much to do with actually being a legal resident of either of the states. i'm IS in two separate states for med school admissions (and tuition) because one of the two states has IS criteria that include former residents that meet one or more criteria.

Look at the requirements for the schools (especially the NC schools, as you may not even be able to qualify there as it is, most/many states require 12 months of residence and attempting to get it done in time might end up disqualifying you from AZ as well).

 

[Winged Scapula]

The IS statistics in Arizona are a little complicated. We only have 1 state funded medical school: U of A (two campuses). Until 2009, essentially no OOS candidates were accepted. Someone then realized we could attract highly qualified OOS students (and of course bring in more money to the state). The cap on OOS has been raised to 50% of the approximately 200 students (both campuses).

Then we have 2 large DO programs which count a large number of OOS students on their rosters, as is the case traditionally with private schools.

So all of the above result in a low number of IS students matriculating in AZ.

 

[ratman7]

The IS matriculation for AZ (16.8%) is actually lower than NC (28.2%). The median MCAT and gpa is more forgiving, though. You can only identify one state residence on AMCAS. Individual schools have variable ways to grant IS tuition. You need to check on each.

I see. I personally like UNC the most, and would listing within NC be my best option?, after finding out if I qualify? If that IS rate for AZ had been >70%, then do you recommend I still list NC, which would pretty much leave me out of Az schools? I don't mind going to AZ med schools, but I prefer the 3 NC ones if I am able to get into them.

 

[minor.groove]

I see. I personally like UNC the most, and would listing within NC be my best option?, after finding out if I qualify? If that IS rate for AZ had been >70%, then do you recommend I still list NC, which would pretty much leave me out of Az schools? I don't mind going to AZ med schools, but I prefer the 3 NC ones if I am able to get into them.

Aren't two of the NC schools private? Most of their IS bias is likely heavy due to relatively high number of IS applicants (and that those applicants maury be more likely to matriculate).

As a side note, think about your stats/whole application. UNC & Duke are both very good schools (don't know much about the AZ schools) if you aren't close/above to their median but are for AZ you may be "trading up" to schools you would have a hard(er) time getting into (just a side thought...)

 

[gyngyn]

I see. I personally like UNC the most, and would listing within NC be my best option?, after finding out if I qualify? If that IS rate for AZ had been >70%, then do you recommend I still list NC, which would pretty much leave me out of Az schools? I don't mind going to AZ med schools, but I prefer the 3 NC ones if I am able to get into them.

You need to compare your stats with the successful candidates in each state to decide.