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Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
jamilla_w said:Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
jamilla_w said:Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
This must be why all professional atheletics coaches are in such great physical shape, yes?Richspiders07 said:However, If I were your patient (hypothetically), it would be hard for me to take advice to get in shape and take care of myself if my physician didn't follow his own orders (ie. you dont want to sound hypocritical).
TM2006 said:If any school ever considers your weight as a criteria for admission, I would imagine that they would get sued for discrimination. I think self-confidence is more important than anything else, even if they ask questions about health/diet/exercise (which I'm sure they do).
True. Same with if your Jewish.zachdhudson said:It's not even close to politically correct, but I would assume that it would at least affect the interviewers view towards you. Then the question is how much does the interview affect your chances.
I believe "weight" falls under criteria they're not "allowed" to consider, just like race, sex, creed, age, sexual orientation, etc. That said, it's not like being overweight is ever an advantage, so the options are either 1) non-issue or 2) disadvantage. I guess it just depends on whether or not your interviewers have any sort of personal bias. It's wouldn't hurt to do a "pre-interview diet" though >). If you can't significantly change your weight after trying...then forget about it! In other words, if you can't change something about you or your application then stop worrying about it >). You may want to point out the exercising/healthy eating you do though...just because you're overweight doesn't necessarily mean you don't try to live a healthy lifestyle.jamilla_w said:Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
DoctorNick83 said:I've seen a fat doctor and med student before...its possible
Just to clarify, weight is not a "protected class" like race, color, religion, creed, sex, national origin, age, disability, veteran status, and, in some states, sexual orientation. Therefore, it is perfectly legal for anyone to discriminate based upon weight.kypdurron5 said:I believe "weight" falls under criteria they're not "allowed" to consider, just like race, sex, creed, age, sexual orientation, etc. That said, it's not like being overweight is ever an advantage, so the options are either 1) non-issue or 2) disadvantage. I guess it just depends on whether or not your interviewers have any sort of personal bias. It's wouldn't hurt to do a "pre-interview diet" though >). If you can't significantly change your weight after trying...then forget about it! In other words, if you can't change something about you or your application then stop worrying about it >). You may want to point out the exercising/healthy eating you do though...just because you're overweight doesn't necessarily mean you don't try to live a healthy lifestyle.
Richspiders07 said:I just want to prep this with an "With all due respect.." As horrible as it may sound, someone with similar statistics, ECs, and LORs who is in shape would likely have a slight edge. With so many health problems in the US being related to diet/exercise (diabetes, hypertension, obesity to name a few) it would be important to explain your view in health and diet/exercise. I've been asked in an interview what I would do about the current obesity epidemic/my view of the situation, and I'm an in shape person! So that seems like a hot topic regardless of your own lifestyle.
However, If I were your patient (hypothetically), it would be hard for me to take advice to get in shape and take care of myself if my physician didn't follow his own orders (ie. you dont want to sound hypocritical). In essence, my advice were to perhaps casually bring it up yourself and relate it to your desire to enter the field. Have you struggled with diet and maintaining a healthy weight and so you want to assist others with similar concerns? etc
OSUdoc08 said:Not if they don't write it down. When deciding to admit people, you don't always know the rationale.
Personally, I would not admit someone who can't take care of themselves, because I wouldn't be assured that could take care of others.....
njbmd said:Hi there,
With all due respect, weight (over or under) is not a consideration in medical school admissions. If a person has been invited for an interview, the admissions committee is looking at how the interviewee interacts on a personal level as opposed to physical conditioning. I have had some very buff people in my office that were obnoxious and condescending. I did not recommend admitting them and they were not admitted.
Patients don't care about the weight of the physician that is offering them advice. What they DO care about is someone who is able to communicate with them and fully understand and take care of their healh concerns. This is not a function of weight.
In no committee meeting that I have attended, has a discussion of weight been a factor pro or con in medical school admission.
njbmd
mustangsally65 said:I would say that appearance makes a big difference. I remember being on an interview and being taken on a tour and given lunch and sitting around before my afternoon interviews. I didn't bring any makeup to do any touch-ups because I thought my interviews would be in the morning. I have oily skin and after a few hours I felt like I looked terrible. My face was shiny and I weighed about 30 pounds more than I do now.
I felt like I was being evaluated on the total package: if you don't take care of yourself it can show. But before I get flamed for that, I used to be very judgemental of overweight people myself until I found out the reason why I was overweight and couldn't lose any weight. Once I got on appropriate medication I was able to take off the extra pounds, and I'm very forgiving of strangers I see in public now because I wonder if they have the same disorder.
It's easy to judge someone on a split-second impression, but I think good interviewers/humans will realize that there are factors that are beyond our control and that contribute to how we look. It also matters how you carry yourself: I used to be very self conscious about my acne when all the other girls had perfect skin, but now I don't even notice it and I feel more confident in myself (my acne is caused by PCOS). That can make a big difference.
Doctor~Detroit said:maybe being overweight is relevant if you're giving preventive medical advice, but since when is preventive medicine a major component of american medicine? it seems to me that appearing hypocritical is a non-issue when prescribing meds.
even when providing preventive medical advice, it seems like you could avoid hypocracy [sic] by doing so in a matter-of-fact manner rather than exhortative. "our best available evidence shows that obesity is associated with an x% chance of y disease" instead of "you better lose some weight or you soon may be facing disease y." do patients really want a guilt trip from their doctors anyway? more importantly, are they actually less likely to consider guilt-invoking advice? tell them what the evidence suggests and let them make health decision just as you have.
TM2006 said:If any school ever considers your weight as a criteria for admission, I would imagine that they would get sued for discrimination. I think self-confidence is more important than anything else, even if they ask questions about health/diet/exercise (which I'm sure they do).
IbnSina said:They aren't legally allowed to question you about your family, sexual orientation, kids or plans for kids, or any number of other things for residency.
And you know what, 100% of women who apply to surgery are asked about children. It is just the way it is.
I wouldn't recommend going on a crash diet or anything, but there are maybe 2 seriously overweight people in my class. And if you look around, it is the trend. ADCOMs like to select towards that. Hell, the class below mine somehow had 6 gorgeous blonde girls. Must have been something they were looking for that year.
Of note, they also told our class during orientation to stop smoking. Something about it being wrong to tell your patient to do something if you aren't willing to do it yourself.
DR U-GENetIC said:actually they can ask you anything that they want.....labor laws dont apply here......they arent offering you a job....you are going to them asking them for a spot in school..........so they are free from any discrimination laws......etc....but even if they are not they can ask you then deny it i mean its an adcoms members word against a wanna0be med student who needs to lie because they cant get into any other med school...i mean cmon....
Have you seen Bill Parcells lately?notdeadyet said:This must be why all professional atheletics coaches are in such great physical shape, yes?
Can't a private school discriminate if they felt like it? I'm sure the AAMC would bring it to a halt, but I don't think federal rules apply to private schools or any private institution (see Augusta National).MiesVanDerMom said:You're paid during residency so I would think the laws do apply. I know they're required to give you maternity leave, for instance. And anyway, it's not like schools are allowed to discriminate.
TheProwler said:Can't a private school discriminate if they felt like it? I'm sure the AAMC would bring it to a halt, but I don't think federal rules apply to private schools or any private institution (see Augusta National).
Besides, the adcom could state that interviewers should consider an applicant's overall "professional appearance" in their review, which leaves a lot of wiggle room.
Btw - your residency isn't a job. You're paid a living stipend during your graduate medical education.
That does sound familiar, but residencies are accredited by an educational accreditation institution, and your monetary compensation is viewed as a stipend more than a salary.MollyMalone said:I seem to recall residents being classed as employees as a result of a lawsuit but I admit I'm fuzzy on the details and could well be wrong.
What's he weighing it at now?EMH said:Have you seen Bill Parcells lately?
jamilla_w said:Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
jamilla_w said:Does being overweight hurt your chances especially if you are a marginal candidate? Do they ever ask you about your own health and diet & exercise?
akademiks1989 said:Is your obesity attributed to personal dietary habits or a medical reason? If attributed to a medical reason, you could talk about something like that in your Personal Statement if it has affected your desire to be a physician.
If diet is to blame, consider this:
-Would you trust a dentist with yellow and crooked teeth?
-Would you trust a lawn mower if his lawn wasn't mowed nicely?
-Would you trust an Arabic person running an Italian restaurant (a.k.a. my mom, lol)
-Would you trust an obese dietician or trainer?
-Would you trust a dermatologist with acne?
And finally -Would you trust an obese doctor?
Whatever profession you choose, you need to look the part, to be successful. If I were you, obesity is a big problem (as you know), and you may want to consider diet and exercise (if that fails, then Gastric Bypass Surgery), not only for public image, but for personal health.
No matter what you do, be confident in your interviews!!! Good luck!!
Sekiray said:I agree, but it also is a matter of superficiality. No matter how much people deny it. Better looking >>>>> less better looking ppl with similar qualifications. I wonder why my import model friend got into a lot of schools with pretty regular stats
ParvatiP said:but I think the consensus is that being overweight will not hurt you during the interview (as long as you're self-confident,etc).
dopaminesurge said:But guys, she never said MORBIDLY OBESE. I would hope being somewhat overweight isn't a conscious strike against anyone. It's really nowhere near as unhealthy as people tend to believe. Obviously, what sometimes passes for overweight is healthier than current beauty ideals...
DR U-GENetIC said:actually they can ask you anything that they want.....labor laws dont apply here......they arent offering you a job....you are going to them asking them for a spot in school..........so they are free from any discrimination laws......etc....but even if they are not they can ask you then deny it i mean its an adcoms members word against a wanna0be med student who needs to lie because they cant get into any other med school...i mean cmon....