Best advice to incoming freshman for succeeding in college

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My best advice is to join a frat. Lots of Professors at my school recycle the same questions or even full tests. Our O-Chem tests from first semester were almost identical to the same tests from 2006 and our Physics only changed the NUMBERS. If you join a frat, you will still have to learn the material but you will be assured of getting good grades and also meeting some awesome people. Good luck to all incoming freshmen.
 
My best advice is to join a frat. Lots of Professors at my school recycle the same questions or even full tests. Our O-Chem tests from first semester were almost identical to the same tests from 2006 and our Physics only changed the NUMBERS. If you join a frat, you will still have to learn the material but you will be assured of getting good grades and also meeting some awesome people. Good luck to all incoming freshmen.

That is probably the lamest reason to join a frat.

Most professors at my school offered old tests anyway.
 
So, let me know how the MCAT and USMLE go after you've cheated your way through undergrad. Does your frat have recycled MCAT questions as well?

That is really solid advise, have you ever thought about becoming an academic advisor? Or perhaps a mod on SDN?
 
So, let me know how the MCAT and USMLE go after you've cheated your way through undergrad. Does your frat have recycled MCAT questions as well?

That is really solid advise, have you ever thought about becoming an academic advisor? Or perhaps a mod on SDN?

I resent you saying "cheated your way through undergrad." Having the old tests is not cheating. Schools are just too competitive to not have every advantage possible and Professors are often lazy so they don't make new tests. I haven't taken the USMLE but got a 31 on the MCAT. 10PS, 11VR, 10BS. I learned the material better having old tests and would recommend anyone to join a frat if they want to succeed.
 
Utilizing a tool not available to all members of your class is cheating. If the professor doesn't make old tests available then it is for a reason and you are receiving an unfair advantage over your classmates. However, if despite the unethical nature of this strategy you still feel percuring old exams is the best way for you to succeed then there is still no need to join a frat. You could just make friends with older students who would also be happy to provide old tests to you. In fact making friends comes natural to most people and you can save about $500 a year in fraternity dues! Or you could just pay a yearly fee for friends for the sole reason to exploit that friendship for old tests, your call future freshman.
 
So, let me know how the MCAT and USMLE go after you've cheated your way through undergrad. Does your frat have recycled MCAT questions as well?

That is really solid advise, have you ever thought about becoming an academic advisor? Or perhaps a mod on SDN?

Technicallly the AAMC practice tests are old exams.... and theres a bunch of books with recycled MCAT questions.... soooo if kaplan and tpr are frats than yes they do recycle.
 
So, let me know how the MCAT and USMLE go after you've cheated your way through undergrad. Does your frat have recycled MCAT questions as well?

That is really solid advise, have you ever thought about becoming an academic advisor? Or perhaps a mod on SDN?

Having a vague idea of what material will be on a test is totally cheating.
 
First semester credit limit : 12 credits, 1 lab at most. Give yourself time in between classes and overall begin to familiarize yourself with college life. Honestly way too many people get dominated their first semester simply because they aren't completely used to college life and don't manage their time well.
Overall first year should be for learning how to study, manage time, and still have a life while taking classes. So try to take it slow... and if you've got AP credits for Chem or Bio, do yourself a favor and don't take organic chemistry your first semester.
 
First semester credit limit : 12 credits, 1 lab at most. Give yourself time in between classes and overall begin to familiarize yourself with college life. Honestly way too many people get dominated their first semester simply because they aren't completely used to college life and don't manage their time well.
Overall first year should be for learning how to study, manage time, and still have a life while taking classes. So try to take it slow... and if you've got AP credits for Chem or Bio, do yourself a favor and don't take organic chemistry your first semester.

Are AP credits factored into undergrad GPA? If they aren't I would totally retake them all for an easy GPA boost.
 
Besides the cheating aspect, the assertion that joining a frat is the way to succeed in college is questionable at best.

In terms of cheating, I'm not quite as concerned about this one. I was against sharing answers in the take-home test thread, but this is more of a grey area. Using old tests that are easily accessible is just laziness from the professor.
 
Are AP credits factored into undergrad GPA? If they aren't I would totally retake them all for an easy GPA boost.

Not to my knowledge. At my university AP credits are just counted as P's( Pass). I assume that's similar everywhere else, including the medical school application.
 
Utilizing a tool not available to all members of your class is cheating.

quoted for truth. most schools with any kind of honor code / code of conduct will have this in there. getting tests from individuals or groups, when that test is not public and freely available (although they are, at plenty of schools), is straight-up cheating.

my advice to incoming freshmen is this: your academic career begins now. your college grades will be with you forever, and you get one shot at it. don't **** it up.
 
My best advice is to join a frat. Lots of Professors at my school recycle the same questions or even full tests. Our O-Chem tests from first semester were almost identical to the same tests from 2006 and our Physics only changed the NUMBERS. If you join a frat, you will still have to learn the material but you will be assured of getting good grades and also meeting some awesome people. Good luck to all incoming freshmen.

I guess is depends upon one's goals. If just getting an 'A' in a given course is satisfactory to you, then I guess your method is fine. Personally, I learn more effectively by figuring things out, and I enjoy the challenge.
 
First semester credit limit : 12 credits, 1 lab at most. Give yourself time in between classes and overall begin to familiarize yourself with college life. Honestly way too many people get dominated their first semester simply because they aren't completely used to college life and don't manage their time well. Overall first year should be for learning how to study, manage time, and still have a life while taking classes. So try to take it slow...

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and if you've got AP credits for Chem or Bio, do yourself a favor and don't take organic chemistry your first semester.

Also +1

Orgo is a notoriously difficult class, and AP classes just aren't sufficient prep for upper level science courses. They are, in essence, high school classes taught by high school teachers, and don't emphasize the critical thinking skills you'll need to develope to do well in upper level sciences. I, personally, would NEVER AP out of a general requirement, for several reasons.

1). Lower level science courses are a great way to pad your science GPA. You can afford a B in an upper level science course if you have plenty of A's in lower level science courses. Plus, leaving freshman year with a 3.7-4.0 GPA is a huge stress reducer! If you start off with a 3.2-3.5 GPA because of a heavy course load, you have all the stress of having to get straight A's in harder science courses! Gah!

2). Orgo is a notoriously difficult class. AP Gen Chem and Bio WON'T prepare you for it. They are high school courses! In my opinion, taking Orgo your freshman year would cause undo stress and bad grades. Like Serenade said, take it easy, and spend freshman year learning what study schedule works for you, how you learn, and how to be independent.

3). A lot of med schools won't except AP credit for their pre-requisites, even if your undergrad university does. And quite frankly, and A in a college level course looks a lot better on your transcript than T credit...from high school.
 
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3). A lot of med schools won't except AP credit for their pre-requisites, even if your undergrad university does. And quite frankly, and A in a college level course looks a lot better on your transcript than T credit...from high school.

Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

My best advice is to join a frat. It is a great place to meet your fellow Christian brothers and sisters (sororities). It also helps a lot academically since fraternity members get into medical schools more often than the average non-frat member. Don't believe me? Look it up. Frat members also will have a higher gpa on average.

Good luck to everyone. For those that don't have the old tests, the more power to you!
 
Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

My best advice is to join a frat. It is a great place to meet your fellow Christian brothers and sisters (sororities). It also helps a lot academically since fraternity members get into medical schools more often than the average non-frat member. Don't believe me? Look it up. Frat members also will have a higher gpa on average.

Good luck to everyone. For those that don't have the old tests, the more power to you!

Wait, a Christian frat is providing old tests?

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Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

gud 1 brah
 
Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

My best advice is to join a frat. It is a great place to meet your fellow Christian brothers and sisters (sororities). It also helps a lot academically since fraternity members get into medical schools more often than the average non-frat member. Don't believe me? Look it up. Frat members also will have a higher gpa on average.

Good luck to everyone. For those that don't have the old tests, the more power to you!

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I don't think a frat is the right place to look for Christian Singles.
 
Having a vague idea of what material will be on a test is totally cheating.

In that case, everyone in my Calc III class is cheating for our upcoming test. The professor told us that the test will be on chapter 8, thereby giving us a vague idea of what material is going to be covered. 😉

In other words, everyone should have a vague idea of what's going to be on the test, no matter the course, just by the simple fact that most tests cover the material you've been studying up to that point. I believe the thing to do, if one is unsure, is ask the professor whether or not it would be acceptable to use old test questions.
 
Apparently having good friends should be a sin according to some. For those that are complaining about people in frats, let me tell you this: life is not fair. Life is a popularity contest in the job market as well as application to medical school. This might hurt to read but it is the truth. Friends help out other friends.

I will not be commenting on this topic further. There are too many frat haters out there on SDN.
 
Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

My best advice is to join a frat. It is a great place to meet your fellow Christian brothers and sisters (sororities). It also helps a lot academically since fraternity members get into medical schools more often than the average non-frat member. Don't believe me? Look it up. Frat members also will have a higher gpa on average.

Good luck to everyone. For those that don't have the old tests, the more power to you!

This post is the most well-crafted piece of satire that will go up today. Well played, Mr. bceagles2012. You made me lol.
 
Not sure if I want to take my information from someone that does not know how to spell "accept" correctly. I would rather take my information from someone that has a 3.86 gpa (3.81 bcpm) and a 31 mcat.

Example: Johns Hopkins will not accept AP credit for the bio pre-reqs. It will accept AP credit for the Gen Chem courses...but will require those who AP out of this pre-req to complete another 4 credit hours of upper level Chem.

Also, would you be willing to take the advice of someone who doesn't know how to spell "except" (gosh darn it, I did it again), if she makes up for it with a 4.0 GPA?
 
I guess a lot has changed since I pledged the frat back in 1997. Back then, the only reason to join the fratlodge was to increase the quality of booty at which you were getting a crack. I guess now it's about the quasi-cheating and application buffing. Fascinating, and a little sad.
 
I guess a lot has changed since I pledged the frat back in 1997. Back then, the only reason to join the fratlodge was to increase the quality of booty at which you were getting a crack. I guess now it's about the quasi-cheating and application buffing. Fascinating, and a little sad.

And FYI, OP, my advice that joining a frat should be done to get on better looking booty is superior to that advising joining one to meet Christian brothers and sisters is proven by the fact that I have a 3.9 and a 37 on the MCAT.
 
I guess a lot has changed since I pledged the frat back in 1997. Back then, the only reason to join the fratlodge was to increase the quality of booty at which you were getting a crack. I guess now it's about the quasi-cheating and application buffing. Fascinating, and a little sad.

Preach it brother! Booty and beer are the reasons that I joined a frat in 2001. Academics was the last thing on my mind. I handled my studies on my own with no help from the brotherhood. I went to a small liberal arts school and the best looking girls on my campus were in sororities. So I joined a frat. Pretty logical.
 
College is what you make of it. Don't be one of those people that complains abou classes just because everyone else does. Don't be afraid to enjoy learning subjects like organic. In fact, it would probably make life more pleasant if you did.
 
I guess a lot has changed since I pledged the frat back in 1997. Back then, the only reason to join the fratlodge was to increase the quality of booty at which you were getting a crack. I guess now it's about the quasi-cheating and application buffing. Fascinating, and a little sad.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. The medical school application process in the US is a stupid joke. The ideal applicant is an unattainable mishmash of a Rhodes Scholar, a Nobel Laureate, and a circus side-show freak.
 
Don't hate the player, hate the game. The medical school application process in the US is a stupid joke. The ideal applicant is an unattainable mishmash of a Rhodes Scholar, a Nobel Laureate, and a circus side-show freak.
You mean this guy?



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My best advice is to join a frat. Lots of Professors at my school recycle the same questions or even full tests. Our O-Chem tests from first semester were almost identical to the same tests from 2006 and our Physics only changed the NUMBERS. If you join a frat, you will still have to learn the material but you will be assured of getting good grades and also meeting some awesome people. Good luck to all incoming freshmen.

I realize that the OP has already taken the cowardly route and dropped out of this thread, but I am so very angry at this post that I'm replying anyway. Joining a frat to improve your chances at medical school is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. I won't deny the fact that there are good frats out there, but as a freshman rushing you're not going to have any idea which frats are good and which ones are faking you out. So you might get into a good one, or you might get into one that will suck the life out of you academically. I've seen way too many friends with promising futures get utterly abused by their time in a fraternity to let this go. And then there are the bad ones that are little more than organizations to facilitate the rape of unsuspecting freshman girls. Again, this may not be the same everywhere, but it happened all of the time at my (very large) state undergraduate institution.

My best advice is to join a frat. It is a great place to meet your fellow Christian brothers and sisters (sororities). It also helps a lot academically since fraternity members get into medical schools more often than the average non-frat member. Don't believe me? Look it up. Frat members also will have a higher gpa on average.

This isn't the way it works with statements of statistics. If you think that frat members have higher GPAs and higher matriculation rates, YOU get to provide that research, not us. A quick check of the AAMC website shows no data to corroborate your claims. Until I see something to the contrary, I have to assume that you are, in fact, just making things up.
 
And then there are the bad ones that are little more than organizations to facilitate the rape of unsuspecting freshman girls. Again, this may not be the same everywhere, but it happened all of the time at my (very large) state undergraduate institution.

And as a statement of statistics, I'll let you provide the data that suggest that rape happened all the time at your school. YOU get to provide the research, not us.

Everybody has a pretty good idea of what fraternities and sororities are all about; it's not systematically raping the freshman female population, and it isn't increasing grades. You should try on something else; bitter doesn't suit you.
 
I'm in a frat and we have a locker full of old labs and tests..do i look over them? Uh yeah, but the professor offers old test anyways and the test are never anything like the old ones, so take it for what its worth, its just good practice and can help gauge you on where your at in your studies.

Anyways joining a frat is great because of all the people you meet, i've met way more people in my frat girls and guys then i have out of the stupid pre-med clubs where all people want to do is talk about there grades, labs, and everything else they do.
Join a frat to meet people, have fun, etc. Also our frat is pretty involved on campus and have huge philanthropy events which are alot of fun.

And before I get flammed for saying if your in a frat you cant have good grades, false we have 4 kids who got accepted to medical school for next year.
 
Another reason to join a frat, beer and girls, everyone knows the best looking girls on campus are in soriorities, and when you have socials with them every friday, its hard not to meet tons of cute girls just saying
 
Another reason to join a frat, beer and girls, everyone knows the best looking girls on campus are in soriorities, and when you have socials with them every friday, its hard not to meet tons of cute girls just saying

my fraternity had all of this to an entirely new level, and also what allegedly was a test file...that file didnt make it beyond history I, pre calc, or psychology, mainly because neither did my frat bros. Needless to say, it lost its charter after my freshman year.... fortunately.
 
And as a statement of statistics, I'll let you provide the data that suggest that rape happened all the time at your school. YOU get to provide the research, not us.

Everybody has a pretty good idea of what fraternities and sororities are all about; it's not systematically raping the freshman female population, and it isn't increasing grades. You should try on something else; bitter doesn't suit you.

First of all, I do not think that all fraternities are categorically evil. There are good ones and bad ones just like there are good and bad aspects of pretty much everything else. If you get into a good fraternity, it really can help you out. As a freshman though, you are unlikely to know which fraternities are good and which ones bad.

But you'd better believe I'm bitter about some of the stuff that goes on in fraternities-one of my best friends was sexually assaulted in one as a freshman. I'm not going to provide direct evidence from my undergrad since I don't think there's a good single source that summarizes everything (and with n=approximately 16 sexual assaults it is hardly conclusive evidence). That being said, about 15 or 16 reported rapes occurred in fraternities at my undergrad over a 2 year period compared to 1 in all of the university sponsored housing. There were 5,000 people in university housing and there are under 50 fraternities on campus, so unless each fraternity houses over 100 people, the numbers shouldn't be skewed by populations.

Now, for some actual data since my anecdotal evidence really is just anecdotal evidence:

http://www.higheredcenter.org/servi...rority-members-and-alcohol-and-other-drug-use

The U.S. Dept. of Education states "High levels of rape take place at fraternity houses"

http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/2/2/134

Abstract of an article that links fraternity membership to use of alcohol in sexual coercion. I can't get the full text for this, maybe you can.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9650245

Abstract with similar suggestions as above.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/f84ww1m390p1x15l/

And finally:

http://etd.ohiolink.edu/view.cgi/Warkentin%20Jennifer.pdf?ohiou1199377666

"In addition to acceptance of sexual aggression, members of all-male social fraternities have been found to be significantly more likely to actually engage in acts of sexual aggression"
 
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It is a FRATERNITY. Where do you go to school?

I highly recommend going Greek though, and for completely different reasons than the OP stated. Test/lab files do help though.
 
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