Best experience to prepare for an MPH?

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Just to get you in on the stats, I'm a recent BS Biology graduate with a decent GPA and hopefully good GRE scores after this summer. I've had 2 pharmaceuticals internships, 1 internship at the WHO, and a little community health volunteer experience. My absolute dream would be to pursue an MBA/MPH at JHU and work as a public health administrator or manage a program for a health non-profit.

I just accepted an offer to do healthcare consulting in the fall. My other alternative would be to look for a job directly in public health, but it may amount to more administrative work in this job market. I don't want schools to think I'm off track with my public health interest.

Any advice regarding experience to seek? I would like to work 1-2 years before applying and I want it to be "the right" experience. Also, any advice about the MBA/MPH experience at JHU? I like that you only have to apply to the Blooomberg school. Any and all advice would be so appreciated!
 
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I am not sure if this is the direction you would want to go but I know J.Hop loves Peace Corps Volunteers. They have a very close relationship with Peace Corps since Sgt. Schrider became the first director. I have several friends who swear they wouldnt have been accepted if it wasnt for being a Peace Corps Volunteer. Thats just one idea.
 
Hi! I actually got into the JHU MPH/MBA program, but decided against going there and am going to UC Berkeley to get my MPH alone. Some of my stats for your own personal comparison: I went to UCLA undergrad, had a 3.6 overall GPA and a 3.87 major GPA. I volunteered abroad for 6 months in a Tuberculosis clinic and worked for 1 year at the American Cancer Society providing health education in medically underserved hispanic communities. I think your stats look great and you should be a great candidate for the JHU MPH/MBA program as long as your personal statement is heartfelt.

I decided not to go to JHU because I had heard a lot of negative things from current students about the school (lack of professor interest in their students, very competitive, the location of the school, etc.) I also had a friend who did the MPH/MBA program at JHU and she said that while it is great that you finish both degrees in 2 years, she also felt as if she just memorized a whole lot of stuff and didn't really learn that much (because it went so fast she felt she wasn't prepared to go out in the real world, there's not a lot of practical work in the program, more theory based work). She said the program is really intense, and she was also disappointed in JHU's alumni networking. It took her 4 months after she graduated to find a job. She has a great job now at the national Center for Disease Control and Prevention, but JHU didn't help her at all in her job search (aka alumni connections and such). Also you should keep in mind that you will be getting an MBA from JHU, which is of course an amazing school, however an MBA from JHU means almost nothing in the business world. JHU's business school is not even ranked. I talked to a lot of healthcare business professtionals about the MBA at JHU, and most of them told me to just do my MPH, and then if I feel I still wanted an MBA I should re-apply to more quality MBA programs.

These are just my opinions. You should of course do your own research and talk to other MPH/MBA-er at JHU and get their opinions on the program. It's a very small program, so if you call the program office I'm sure they can put you through to current students.

Hope I helped, and goodluck with everything!
 
Wow, thanks for all of the great advice. It looks as if working abroad in an LDC is really the best experience to show them you can hack it.

The story of your friend is really helpful because stats such as job search post-grad, preparation for the real world, etc are impossible to know via websites. I'd be interested to know how you feel about MBA school once you receive your MPH from Berkeley. Coming from UCSD, I'm drawn to living on the east coast for awhile but maybe I should stop denying the great degrees that Berkeley has to offer and earn them one at a time. May I ask why you didn't pursue the MBA/MPH at Berkeley?
 
Wow, thanks for all of the great advice. It looks as if working abroad in an LDC is really the best experience to show them you can hack it.

The story of your friend is really helpful because stats such as job search post-grad, preparation for the real world, etc are impossible to know via websites. I'd be interested to know how you feel about MBA school once you receive your MPH from Berkeley. Coming from UCSD, I'm drawn to living on the east coast for awhile but maybe I should stop denying the great degrees that Berkeley has to offer and earn them one at a time. May I ask why you didn't pursue the MBA/MPH at Berkeley?

Just a quick comment, but I'm surprised you aren't considering UCLA.

I chose to attend UCLA for my MPH over Hopkins, Columbia, UNC, Emory, etc. You would be remiss to not consider UCLA.

Both UCLA and Berkeley Schools of Public Health are tied in the rankings. I wasn't so much worried about rankings, however, and what sold me is that UCLA is simply a world-class medical institution, in general. They offer the #3 Hospital in the nation, a top 10 medical school, a top 10 SPH, phenomenal nursing, etc. and I liked that much of my department's faculty is jointly appointed between the SPH and medical school, nursing school, etc.

In terms of research, UCLA is one of the most productive of any university globally.

I'm not at my most articulate at the moment as I only have a second to post but UCLA offers a lot that Berkeley doesn't (in terms of medical sciences) and it is equally as strong a SPH.
 
Just a quick comment, but I'm surprised you aren't considering UCLA.

I chose to attend UCLA for my MPH over Hopkins, Columbia, UNC, Emory, etc. You would be remiss to not consider UCLA.

Both UCLA and Berkeley Schools of Public Health are tied in the rankings. I wasn't so much worried about rankings, however, and what sold me is that UCLA is simply a world-class medical institution, in general. They offer the #3 Hospital in the nation, a top 10 medical school, a top 10 SPH, phenomenal nursing, etc. and I liked that much of my department's faculty is jointly appointed between the SPH and medical school, nursing school, etc.

In terms of research, UCLA is one of the most productive of any university globally.

I'm not at my most articulate at the moment as I only have a second to post but UCLA offers a lot that Berkeley doesn't (in terms of medical sciences) and it is equally as strong a SPH.

Sorry, I meant to link this. Here is brief description of UCLA's established MPH/MBA program:

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/students_concurdeg.html
 
If you live near a big city, you may find opportunities to volunteer in some free clinics or health centers. These places are eager to accept volunteers to help with all sorts of administrative tasks.
 
I actually didn't apply to the MBA/MPH program at Berkeley. In all honesty I'm not 100 percent sure if I need/want an MBA yet, JHU's MPH/MBA appealed to me because it was only a 2 year program and I didn't have to take the GMATS to apply. However since I don't have that much work experience I decided in the end to do only one degree and if I feel like I still want the other degree I'll go back to school for my MBA in a couple of years (nothing like taking a break from working for a few years! lol 😀)

As for the UCLA vs. Berkeley issue, I actually got into UCLA as well but decided on Berkeley instead because of the vast Alumni connections and how the school treated me as a prospective student. Of all the schools I got into (UCLA, JHU, Columbia, Berkeley, Yale) Berkeley was the school that made me feel not only the most welcomed, but also they made me feel that their program was best administration wise. During Berkeley’s prospective student orientation I met all the heads of the different departments (epi, Health policy & management, etc.), my future professors, and met with current MPH students. UCB was just so well prepared compared to UCLA’s Health Services department, which didn’t even have an ‘Admitted Students’ day. Berkeley also offered to pay half the airfare for those who flew in from far away. I tried to set up an individual tour with UCLA’s Health Serivce’s department (through Roxanna the department liaison) and was brushed off and told that I could ask whatever questions I wanted on the phone and then drive down to UCLA and just walk around UCLA’s SPH by myself if I wished. It just didn’t seem like UCLA cared… but of course I am specifically talking about the Health Services department, I have no clue how the other departments are at UCLA, they could be absolutely lovely. However I think you’re interested in the Health Services department, so then this would apply for you.

Aside from personal feelings of welcomed-ness, I liked Berkeley’s program better because you can take elective courses from ANY of the other graduate departments (which meant I could take courses from the Sociology department, when I’m really interested in as well), you have the option of doing 2 internships instead of 1 (since I don’t’ have that much work experience I really like this), they have great connections with the World Health Organization (when I spoke to UCLA they said that they don’t have much of an international connection), You can “minor” in either Global Health or Multicultural Health along with your chosen concentration, and the HPM department has employed an advisor whose sole responsibility is to help find you a job after you graduate, where as when I asked Roxanna about how UCLA helps in finding students employment she said “We have a catalog of alumni contact info and where they work and you’re free to contact them on your own”. 👎

I know this posting sounds like I’m hating on UCLA, but I don’t mean for it to come off as such. I went to UCLA Undergrad and absolutely loved it! It really is an amazing institution; I was just really disappointed in their Health Services Department. I’ve had friends who have gone to UCLA’s SPH and concentrated in their Health Services department and although most of them have had an overall good experience, complaints about the Health Service department’s administration staff seem to be a constant factor. Again I love UCLA and can’t add any input about the other departments at the SPH, but this is just how I feel about UCLA’s health Service department based on my own interactions with their staff. 🙂
 
I actually didn't apply to the MBA/MPH program at Berkeley. In all honesty I'm not 100 percent sure if I need/want an MBA yet, JHU's MPH/MBA appealed to me because it was only a 2 year program and I didn't have to take the GMATS to apply. However since I don't have that much work experience I decided in the end to do only one degree and if I feel like I still want the other degree I'll go back to school for my MBA in a couple of years (nothing like taking a break from working for a few years! lol 😀)

As for the UCLA vs. Berkeley issue, I actually got into UCLA as well but decided on Berkeley instead because of the vast Alumni connections and how the school treated me as a prospective student. Of all the schools I got into (UCLA, JHU, Columbia, Berkeley, Yale) Berkeley was the school that made me feel not only the most welcomed, but also they made me feel that their program was best administration wise. During Berkeley's prospective student orientation I met all the heads of the different departments (epi, Health policy & management, etc.), my future professors, and met with current MPH students. UCB was just so well prepared compared to UCLA's Health Services department, which didn't even have an ‘Admitted Students' day. Berkeley also offered to pay half the airfare for those who flew in from far away. I tried to set up an individual tour with UCLA's Health Serivce's department (through Roxanna the department liaison) and was brushed off and told that I could ask whatever questions I wanted on the phone and then drive down to UCLA and just walk around UCLA's SPH by myself if I wished. It just didn't seem like UCLA cared… but of course I am specifically talking about the Health Services department, I have no clue how the other departments are at UCLA, they could be absolutely lovely. However I think you're interested in the Health Services department, so then this would apply for you.

Aside from personal feelings of welcomed-ness, I liked Berkeley's program better because you can take elective courses from ANY of the other graduate departments (which meant I could take courses from the Sociology department, when I'm really interested in as well), you have the option of doing 2 internships instead of 1 (since I don't' have that much work experience I really like this), they have great connections with the World Health Organization (when I spoke to UCLA they said that they don't have much of an international connection), You can "minor" in either Global Health or Multicultural Health along with your chosen concentration, and the HPM department has employed an advisor whose sole responsibility is to help find you a job after you graduate, where as when I asked Roxanna about how UCLA helps in finding students employment she said "We have a catalog of alumni contact info and where they work and you're free to contact them on your own". 👎

I know this posting sounds like I'm hating on UCLA, but I don't mean for it to come off as such. I went to UCLA Undergrad and absolutely loved it! It really is an amazing institution; I was just really disappointed in their Health Services Department. I've had friends who have gone to UCLA's SPH and concentrated in their Health Services department and although most of them have had an overall good experience, complaints about the Health Service department's administration staff seem to be a constant factor. Again I love UCLA and can't add any input about the other departments at the SPH, but this is just how I feel about UCLA's health Service department based on my own interactions with their staff. 🙂

Interesting. I have had almost the opposite experience with UCLA -- department strengths vary between schools. I will be attending the Community Health Sciences MPH program.

CHS had an admitted students day; however, it was the same day as Johns Hopkins' and I was in Baltimore. I flew to LA from Atlanta the following week and was able to schedule a personal meeting with the program coordinator and she explained everything to me, answering all of my questions. She showed me around the school and allowed me to sit in on classes. My department has a 90-something% matriculation rate of accepted applicants (which, to me, says something).

The department allows me to take any class I want to at UCLA - no matter school, department, or division. Also, if I'm in good academic standing, we do not have to apply to the PhD program - we simply move up. Additionally, considering I want to work with clinical setting intervention development, I like that a large number of the CHS faculty are medicine faculty, as well, with dual appointments.

The other factor I considered was research productivity. UCLA is a national leader in the receipt of medical research grants and publications. The CHS department is more productive (in # of publications) than comparable programs at Columbia, Emory, Berkeley, etc.

All of these factors, in addition to UCLA's general prestige in medicine and awesome schools and facilities (UCLA Medical Center, SOM, SON, etc), sold me. I chose UCLA over UNC, Emory, Hopkins, Columbia, Michigan, etc.

But, it all sounds like we're blessed with the problem of having many, many great choices.
 
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Cster, I actually have an old Dorm friend who's currently in UCLA's Community Health Sciences program and she absolutely loves it... You'll love UCLA (even though the price of the Diddy Reese Ice Cream sandwich has gone up! Confused, don't worry it'll all make sense soon enough 😀)... Goodluck!
 
Cster, I actually have an old Dorm friend who's currently in UCLA's Community Health Sciences program and she absolutely loves it... You'll love UCLA (even though the price of the Diddy Reese Ice Cream sandwich has gone up! Confused, don't worry it'll all make sense soon enough 😀)... Goodluck!

That's great to hear and I DO know Diddy Reese! I stopped by when I was in town in April -- very good. What is the price now!?

Best of luck at Cal!
 
Anyone know if volunteer experience is necessary/big factor for PhD Epi? Thanks!
 
That's great to hear and I DO know Diddy Reese! I stopped by when I was in town in April -- very good. What is the price now!?

$1.50 for the sandwich! 👎 Don't they know that I need those 2 quarters for the bus and laundry!?!
 
A couple of quick questions:

Just wondering what is the relative "worth" of being a teaching assistant for public health admissions?

Also, does it look weird if all my work experiences have been in the past 2 years? (e.g. mentoring, TAing, summer research, and a public health job)

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I guess I should clarify why I said "weird". It's just that before two years ago, I had to do odd jobs and such to earn money and none of them were relevant enough to include in an application. So essentially, if I were to list my experience, it will look like I only have 2 years of experience.
 
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