Can anyone recommend some laptops for pharmacy school???
best laptop for pharmacy school
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Anything pretty much works, I got a bottom tier labtop 4 years ago for 400$ and it still suits all my needs. In that regard I'm not sure what you mean by best for pharmacy school...anything that can open pdfs & powerpoints is enough lol.
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It depends on what you want it for. If it's just for word processing and using the internet, you can get a really decent laptop for <$600. If you want something fancy with all the bells and whistles, go for a Mac, but be prepared to be spend at least a grand.
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I really liked the Thinkpad I had from undergrad. It's on it's last legs though. And I'm not sure it would be worth the price without laptop grants 🙂
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Do you already have one or will this be your first laptop? If you have one already, use that. Save some money! Most schools just let you use any one you want and if not, they supply you with one.
If you can wait until school starts, I would do so. Give it a month or so of school to figure out how/where computer labs are and where you'll be doing the bulk of your homework. Those things will definitely impact what would work best for you.
Example: I can use a computer almost anytime at school, so I have a bulkier, larger screened, large memory laptop since I'm not hauling it to school more than once or twice a semester.
Example: I can use a computer almost anytime at school, so I have a bulkier, larger screened, large memory laptop since I'm not hauling it to school more than once or twice a semester.
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I bought my wife a Gateway LT5004U and it's like, 1.1 pounds and very awesome for word processing / web surfing and it was $311 at Best Buy after tax. It fits perfectly in her very over-stuffed back pack.
The Macbook is a fine piece of machinery but overkill for basic note-taking / computing needs.
The Macbook is a fine piece of machinery but overkill for basic note-taking / computing needs.
Not in pharm school, but I don't think you'll be do anything extraordinary with it in pharm school. Just word processing, internet, .pdf, and powerpoints like the other guy said.
Practically anything will work with that. Even laptops from the Pentium 4 single core era will work.
If you're buying a new one... I would wait until it's closer to when you'll need it, prices will continue to go down as time goes on since adoption of the Intel Nehalem architecture will picks up for laptops. Which means for you, cheaper old technology!
Aim for something with a core 2 duo (if Intel), or what ever the AMD dual core equivalent is now. Aim for Windows 7. Don't worry about hard drive space unless you're a hoarder, and don't concern yourself with SSDs unless you have a couple $100's to burn. And you won't see a difference between 2GB RAM vs 4GB RAM for these simple purposes. Either way you should only be spending ~$500.
Hell, a netbook would suffice even. If you don't mind a small screen. These things are reaching 10 hour battery life now, mine gets 7 hours and it's doesn't even have the newer atom CPU and chipset.
Practically any brand will work, but I have had success with Acer, MSI, ASUS, Lenovo and Dell does good work too. Don't go Apple unless you want to pay ~150% more for the same thing.
Another tip is to browse eBay for refurbished laptops. You'll save at least $100 and end up with same thing. They usually come with a 30 day warranty, and statistically most electronics fail immediately or within the first few days of use.
Tired of studying organic all day, felt like talking computers.
Practically anything will work with that. Even laptops from the Pentium 4 single core era will work.
If you're buying a new one... I would wait until it's closer to when you'll need it, prices will continue to go down as time goes on since adoption of the Intel Nehalem architecture will picks up for laptops. Which means for you, cheaper old technology!
Aim for something with a core 2 duo (if Intel), or what ever the AMD dual core equivalent is now. Aim for Windows 7. Don't worry about hard drive space unless you're a hoarder, and don't concern yourself with SSDs unless you have a couple $100's to burn. And you won't see a difference between 2GB RAM vs 4GB RAM for these simple purposes. Either way you should only be spending ~$500.
Hell, a netbook would suffice even. If you don't mind a small screen. These things are reaching 10 hour battery life now, mine gets 7 hours and it's doesn't even have the newer atom CPU and chipset.
Practically any brand will work, but I have had success with Acer, MSI, ASUS, Lenovo and Dell does good work too. Don't go Apple unless you want to pay ~150% more for the same thing.
Another tip is to browse eBay for refurbished laptops. You'll save at least $100 and end up with same thing. They usually come with a 30 day warranty, and statistically most electronics fail immediately or within the first few days of use.
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Are you planning on doing any gaming with it?
That's a dumb statement. I build windows machines and build my own. I've never had a BSOD or any issues with windows.
The only time windows has issues is if you really do think you are the 10,000th visitor to the site and sign up for a free hummer if you let it install a virus scanner on your system.
And if you're going into a Pharm D program, you should be smart enough not to do that 😀
Also, think your Apple laptop is made better and less prone to failure? Think again.
http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/laptop-reliability-1109
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IMO Macs attract people who do not know much about computers. They see the shiny aluminum case and all of the nice on-screen effects and end up paying a ridiculous amount of money for mediocre hardware. Windows is not bad at all. If you know what you're doing you should not have any problems.
I have a toshiba laptop with amd dual core but I broke the clip that locks that screen when you close it. I can probably use that for now its sufficient enough but its heavy around 6+. Carrying it everyday will be a hassle. I wouldn't touch a mac the hardware they use is year old technology, only reason people say its good is because the software works perfectly with what the machine is capable of. I'm interested in the new intel i3, i5 or i7 processors any recommendations?
I haven't had a problem with any of my pc's using windows for many years. Only when you don't know how to use a computer thats when you have trouble with windows.
Why did you buy an apple?
I don't get viruses lol-lame excuse to overpay for old technology.. but a fan boy will always be a fan boy no matter the facts that are brought to the table.
IMO MS is the evil empire and Apple is the evil (and overpriced) marketing scam. I go with the lesser (cheaper) of two evils. I can live without the scam, I can't live without all the software support for MS.
If you go with Apple, you're might be putting yourself out on a limb. Steve Jobs/Apple and Adobe had a recent public spat on Flash vs HTML5 ... and as a student, access to PDFs (Adobe) is relatively important. Jobs said something unprofessional and Adobe responded. If Adobe suddenly dropped support for all of their products on Macs out of nowhere, you'd be SOL... short of running virtual PC on your Mac just to open pdfs. Apple doesn't even support Adobe Flash on their iPad and iPhone gen4 (along with all their previous generations of iPod touch/iPhones).
Go with the safe route as a student. Chances are this is just an ego match between two tech giants but if it escalates to more than that... uh oh 😱. And for the OS freaking out ... I remember Mac's in my research lab also crashing and freaking out. No OS is immune to bugs. And you can't really get viruses if you only go to SDN, CNN, ESPN, fox, youtube, google, etc and screen your e-mail before downloading/opening attachments. Viruses are sort of a non-issue for most normal users.
If you go with Apple, you're might be putting yourself out on a limb. Steve Jobs/Apple and Adobe had a recent public spat on Flash vs HTML5 ... and as a student, access to PDFs (Adobe) is relatively important. Jobs said something unprofessional and Adobe responded. If Adobe suddenly dropped support for all of their products on Macs out of nowhere, you'd be SOL... short of running virtual PC on your Mac just to open pdfs. Apple doesn't even support Adobe Flash on their iPad and iPhone gen4 (along with all their previous generations of iPod touch/iPhones).
Go with the safe route as a student. Chances are this is just an ego match between two tech giants but if it escalates to more than that... uh oh 😱. And for the OS freaking out ... I remember Mac's in my research lab also crashing and freaking out. No OS is immune to bugs. And you can't really get viruses if you only go to SDN, CNN, ESPN, fox, youtube, google, etc and screen your e-mail before downloading/opening attachments. Viruses are sort of a non-issue for most normal users.
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iPad
I'm sorry... that deserves this ...
iPad is a sorry excuse for a tablet. It's an oversized iPod.
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I'm sorry... that deserves this ...
iPad is a sorry excuse for a tablet. It's an oversized iPod.
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Mac def. Almost everyone in my class has a mac. It's easy, convenient, fun to use and light to carry.
If you buy it during the summer Apple usually runs the free ipod and free printer promotion along with student pricing. I sold the free ipod and printer and it brought the computer down to under 1,000. I'll be selling my old laptop too, and it will probably bring the total cost of the Mac down to about 700. Totally doable for a great computer.
If you buy it during the summer Apple usually runs the free ipod and free printer promotion along with student pricing. I sold the free ipod and printer and it brought the computer down to under 1,000. I'll be selling my old laptop too, and it will probably bring the total cost of the Mac down to about 700. Totally doable for a great computer.
Haha~ I had a feeling my comment would bring out some out cries from the pc folks. I was a software engineer for 5 years and have BS and MS in comp sci. I also built PCs, web servers, and 5 Terabyte storage servers for work. I actually run both operating systems on my mac and use VMware to run both at the same time. I own several PCs running windows, debian Linux, and MacBooks, etc etc. I love them all. You guys are too serious. I was just joking. Relax. Woo-Saw~ 😉
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I'd recommend an Asus netbook.
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I agree with the above ^^^
Asus netbook, specifically this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZLOR56/ref=oss_product
It's more practical than a netbook but still has the mobility. It has a dual core Atom processor and a dedicated video card, the Nvidia Ion. Windows 7 and 2 gigs of ram come with it. 12.1 in screen makes the eyestrain a bit easier and it has a full-size keyboard. You'll be able to run HD movies and whatnot due to the Ion video card but you may want to upgrade the RAM to 4 gigs. With Flash 10.1 on it's way, this will be a fantastic portable device.
IMO this is the netbook to get if you're looking for something with more versatility. It's also under $500.
Asus netbook, specifically this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZLOR56/ref=oss_product
It's more practical than a netbook but still has the mobility. It has a dual core Atom processor and a dedicated video card, the Nvidia Ion. Windows 7 and 2 gigs of ram come with it. 12.1 in screen makes the eyestrain a bit easier and it has a full-size keyboard. You'll be able to run HD movies and whatnot due to the Ion video card but you may want to upgrade the RAM to 4 gigs. With Flash 10.1 on it's way, this will be a fantastic portable device.
IMO this is the netbook to get if you're looking for something with more versatility. It's also under $500.
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Macs are so freaking over-rated and way too expensive. You are paying for a stupid white apple on your laptop and an operating system that barely anything works on. I love the 95% of my professors emails that say "This won't work on Macs."
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I am going to strongly disagree with you there. Hell I built the desktop I'm on, running just the basics of Win7 and its still using 1.71GB of ram. And remember a laptop, especially a prebuilt one, has a lot more crap running in the background.
If you're going Win7, you need 4GB of ram or higher.
As for Macs... macs are nice. They're really good for graphic design and if you're a snob. Really, its just as good to get a Windows PC. When people start spouting off "Well Macs never get any viruses and blah blah blah" there's two things to consider.
First, Macs possess a very very small subset of the computer population. So of course you're not going to see as many problems with viruses because there's not as many to infect.
Second, most people who run Windows do not have a decent virus software installed and/or running. Download avast for free and you're set.
Just beware of the fan boys lol
Analogy to pharmacy school admissions for acceptances with and w/out a B.S./B.A. degree ... from an ad com's blog...
4 gigs on win7? 😱 Most people don't even have that much haha. To put that into perspective, only ~23% of the users on Steam have 4 gigs or more... those are people who would typically buy a lot of RAM in the first place.
But yea, Win7 is taking about ~1.1 gigs of RAM right now on my system. If you can afford it, just go with 4 gigs. I skimped on RAM with my Thinkpad a couple years ago and ended up regretting it. For normal purposes of pdf, net surfing, and office ... the differences between 2 and 4 aren't really that mind-blowing.
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It's really not that uncommon, my laptop and desktop both have 8gigs in it. Gotta remember that not everyone is running Win7 or Vista. XP only uses about 250MB of Ram at one time, so having 1 gig of ram is not a big deal.
The kernal alone for Win7 takes up like half a gig. Firefox, when it's hungry, can take up 250MB or more, tack on maybe running iTunes or opening up Office (which is surprisingly memory hungry) and boom you've capped out your 2 GB of ram.
Luckily though virtually no manufacturer is shipping any laptops with anything less than 4GB
Yea that's why I regretted it. I bought my thinkpad 3-4 years ago in the days of XP.
I was just citing the Steam hardware stats
The numbers for Jan 2010
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I made the mistake on my first desktop of skimping on the CPU and after two years I had a HUGE bottleneck on my system.
I'll post some usage stats from my laptop in a little while
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This is my laptop with iTunes, Word, Excel just fired up. Firefox has been running for a little bit.
I disabled a ton of the 'free' programs after I bought this, so it can be a lot worse.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6663/memoryj.jpg
I disabled a ton of the 'free' programs after I bought this, so it can be a lot worse.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6663/memoryj.jpg
Wow - I guess I have a super Mac. Never had a problem and everyone in academia has told me to stick with a Mac. Total compatibility, great processing power, excellent look, awesome battery power, user friendly, andaudio/visual is primo.
Idk where you are all looking, but the bigger more reputable the school, the more Mac friendly. Ivy league schools and Tier 1 schools live by Mac and some of the large State pharmacy schools I have interviewed at are also strong supporters of Mac.
In my opinion - there's a reason why America's top universities and businesses are choosing mac over pc.
😕😕😕😕😕😕 What?? UC's aren't Mac biased. Harvard isn't Mac biased. MIT isn't Mac biased. UPenn isn't Mac biased. Wall street isn't Mac biased. Biotech/Biopharmaceuticals aren't Mac biased.... The only industry that's even remotely Mac biased is the creative industry and many of the upper end uses don't even use Mac or PC -_-
From an Apple biased site ... January 14, 2009 http://www.appleinsider.com/article...us_pc_market_slips_to_8_at_hands_of_acer.html And this was when Vista was screwing up the whole PC market ...
There is perception and then there is reality. I don't really care if people choose Mac or PC but saying things that aren't true makes me 😡 Since Apple switched over to Intel, it hasn't really mattered all that much if you're on a Mac or PC ... the only real difference is pricing point and image (something college-age kids care about).
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Mac are just overpriced...they are not that great, you are just buying for the look. Bought my Acer Laptop 4 years ago, never had any problem. I bought it as Win XP, then I upgraded to Vista and now I have Win 7. Works perfect....still fast
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That such a load of BS.
The vast majority of systems by ALL companies are Windows based. Most servers run off of Linux. Virtually NO ONE runs off of Macs
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I highly disagree, Win7 is much less resource hoggy then Vista and Vista will run 2gb ram fine. The only thing that would require that much ram are newly sophisticated games which are pretty much the only thing pushing the specs on computers. My 1gb ram single core processor can handle 10+internet pages continually working, powerpoint, etc all at the same time. There's no darn need for 8gb quad core yada yada to do anything a normal person wants to do on the computer.
If you're a student and just use your computer for web-browsing, studying, etc do yourself a favor and just buy a inexpensive computer. It will do anything you need it to, not to mention other peoples 'high-end' computers will be outdated with the newest computers and $500 cheaper 3 months down the line, since they seem to feel like it's more of a competition then sensible buying.
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I'm not touching the Mac/PC debate. 
Aside from that, one thing I would add is to seriously think about the size of laptop to look at. I was scared off of netbooks by their relatively puny specs, and wound up getting a Dell Studio 17. As it's my primary PC these days, the widescreen display and decent horsepower are nice, but it's a heavy bitch. There's been many a time I've envied my classmates their teeny little 2-lb netbooks, when I'm trying to squeeze my overgrown monster of a notebook back into the barely-big-enough space in my backpack.
Aside from that, one thing I would add is to seriously think about the size of laptop to look at. I was scared off of netbooks by their relatively puny specs, and wound up getting a Dell Studio 17. As it's my primary PC these days, the widescreen display and decent horsepower are nice, but it's a heavy bitch. There's been many a time I've envied my classmates their teeny little 2-lb netbooks, when I'm trying to squeeze my overgrown monster of a notebook back into the barely-big-enough space in my backpack.
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He's talking laptop though which is gonna come with a bunch of preinstalled crap that the average joe won't know how to remove or know what to remove.
My buddy just bought a new HP laptop with 2GB of ram and out of the gate it booted up using 1.65GB of ram. It won't take a heck of a lot to cap it out at that point.
check this out people.. what do you think ?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+...lack/9723951.p?id=1218159867078&skuId=9723951
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+...lack/9723951.p?id=1218159867078&skuId=9723951
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You're payin about an extra $200 just because it says Sony on it
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then what kind of laptop can you recommend with i5 processor, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M GPU, and weighs around 5 pounds
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Sony Vaios sucks and their customer support is horrendous. My vaio crashed 3 days before warranty expired and they refused to honor the warranty and do anything about it. In three years of having that laptop, I had nothing but problems - keys from the keyboard started falling out within a first year, it crashed a few times and finally a touchpad broke.
I'm not happy with my new Dell either, even though I custom added a couple things.
I'm not sure what the best laptop is, but it sure isn't Sony.
I'm not happy with my new Dell either, even though I custom added a couple things.
I'm not sure what the best laptop is, but it sure isn't Sony.
I have seen first hand the prevalence of Mac at ALL the UC campuses - some having entire Mac labs (UC-Berkley in partic). NYU is ridiculously Mac'd out - seen it as well. While graphic arts and TV/Film definitely rely on Mac's, the popularity of the Mac OS extends way beyond that because of how user friendly and reliable Macs are.
Wall street is Mac based - check out their stocks over the past few quarters 😀
Ultimately - its a total preference. Many companies will use PC's because they are cheaper. Many companies, however, do not. The physician group I see consists of 20 doctors, and 15 NPs - the entire facility is run by Macs.
Its a great product and to answer the original thread prompt - you should definitely get one for pharmacy school because it makes a great personal computer. It is very user friendly, it has nice programs for organizing/editing pictures, and it integrates many programs together in a very clean, organized format.
Wall street is Mac based - check out their stocks over the past few quarters 😀
Ultimately - its a total preference. Many companies will use PC's because they are cheaper. Many companies, however, do not. The physician group I see consists of 20 doctors, and 15 NPs - the entire facility is run by Macs.
Its a great product and to answer the original thread prompt - you should definitely get one for pharmacy school because it makes a great personal computer. It is very user friendly, it has nice programs for organizing/editing pictures, and it integrates many programs together in a very clean, organized format.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220699
Better GPU, Lighter weight, Bigger screen. The difference in processor really isn't gonna matter much.
And it won't break on you. VAIOs are POS. People buy them because they say Sony and everyone I have talked to has regretted it.
You could probably find a better deal yet on the one I posted, I just searched for like 5 minutes.
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Macs are usually run by IT departments that are lazy and like to pass the buck 😉
I worked in IT for a while, I've seen it first hand.
The other thing is that Macs are just the face of the system. What runs everything the Macs connect to? PC based systems.
Okay that's just selective vision ... Berkeley has PCs and Macs as do all UCs. For every 1 Mac at UCLA, UCSD, UCI, and UCR ... there is at least 1.5 to 2 PCs in the computer lab. At UCLA and UCSD there are probably 2 or more PCs/Mac due to the size of their engineering programs. As for NYU... they also have PCs in the computer labs. Plus NYU is a top 5 film school in the country. It has a fairly extensive creative department. UCLA and USC are also top 5 film programs and they have more PCs than Macs. Heck, at USC you'll even find an entire computer lab with UNIX computers next to a lab with all Mac computers next to a lab with all PC computers.
Wall street analysts primarily use Macs?
Keep on dreaming. I have several friends at HBS, Sloan, and Stanford along with others working at I-banks in NYC and Hong Kong. No one uses Macs ... it just screws with their productivity. Time is money and time wasted going back and forth between PCs and Macs is lost money. They want consistency and efficiency ... PCs were the norm before and the dominate market leader now... Banks have no reason to risk losing millions of $$ to convert their entire system over from Unix/Linux/MS based systems to Mac. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.There's a difference between "Yes, schools use Macs too" and "Yes, schools are dominated or 'live' by Macs". Yes Macs are on campus but be realistic ... PCs are there and in greater numbers. It's simple numbers. Two words, Market. Share. Mac OSX holds ~10% market share. Mac's worldwide sales account for less than 3.5% of the personal computing market. Yes Apple/Mac has a lot of mind share but very little market share. You're letting perception trick you into thinking Macs are a dominant force in today's world. Numbers and statistics as lopsided as the sales figures/market share/etc. don't lie. Apple is losing market share every single day to netbooks. Netbooks are small, "cute", and cheap. It's totally an image thing.
And the whole "While graphic arts and TV/Film definitely rely on Mac's..." is just a myth. In reality the creative industry is not heavily dependent on using Macs vs using PCs. It's all an image thing when they show their work to consumers. Mac has a "cool/hip" image and that sells.
I don't like blatant lies
It just causes more rumors to go around ... For pharm school neither matters. At worst you'll need it for PDFs, Excel, Word, and some statistical software. At the very very very worst, maybe you'll use MATLAB or some other random mathematical software which run on both PC and Mac.
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It used to be true. I debating going to graphic design when I was younger and I knew I bunch of them so I shadowed them at like 4 or 5 different businesses. All you saw was G3s everywhere. BUT, Windows/PCs was a bit behind in that area at that point and Adobe and Corel put a lot of their graphic focus on Apple products.
The big reason, that I eluded to earlier, that you don't see businesses running solely off Macs is the lack of customization. Sure you can change things a little bit, but you're rather locked in, especially if you want support from Apple.
For Windows PCs, you can do whatever the hell you want. I used to build computers for work out of random spare parts. We only needed roughly a 1ghz processor and 512 MB of ram in order to run our software. Hell I was making them out of mobos that were made in 1996!
You can't do that with Macs. If all you need is a simple computer like that, you're stuck dropping at least a grand on a Mac whereas you could build a simple computer for under 200-300 bucks or scrounge parts and put one together that way.
And you can't use the reliability thing between because
A) The PCs that fail are either built with mismatched parts, are simply not well designed or are freak failures
B) You can get the same parts that are in Mac for PC, especially since they went to Intel chips. It's not like the same manufacturer that makes Mac parts cranks down the reliability knob when they start making PC branded parts.
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I'm actually customizing a Dell Inspiron i3 right now. I don't need an expensive computer so this is what I've narrowed it down to. All I'm looking for is a relatively fast computer for internet, opening pdfs, and my friend will be installing microsoft office with excel, powerpoint, and word. Can any of you computer wizards give me a green light on this one? It was between a Dell and Toshiba
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/...dhs/inspiron_15_dndovn2?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Comes to around $587 total for everything. Includes Intel Core i3, 250GB hard drive, 6-cell lithium battery, bluetooth, webcam, wireless half mini card, 2 GB shared dual channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/...dhs/inspiron_15_dndovn2?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Comes to around $587 total for everything. Includes Intel Core i3, 250GB hard drive, 6-cell lithium battery, bluetooth, webcam, wireless half mini card, 2 GB shared dual channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
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