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Sorry to get this thread...uh..back on topic, but can anyone answer the OP's question? What should you consider when looking at a prosth program? What are some classically good programs, their idiosyncracies, specifics, and who has stipends?

What specifically is good? Tons of implant cases? Lots of elective aesthetic work? Etc...
 
armorshell said:
Sorry to get this thread...uh..back on topic, but can anyone answer the OP's question? What should you consider when looking at a prosth program? What are some classically good programs, their idiosyncracies, specifics, and who has stipends?

What specifically is good? Tons of implant cases? Lots of elective aesthetic work? Etc...
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Look at it from the point of view of what is prosthodontics and subsequently does the specific program offer a combination of these 3 pillars. Case availability is key

1.We are the cosmetic/esthetic call it what you will, specialist not fraudulent jokers who go for a weekend to LVI. Therefore does the residency provide enough cases in areas such as veneers, all ceramics, bonded porcelain restorations etc? LSU Dr Chiche is one of the best.
2. Secondly, implant dentistry started with prosthodontics in 1982 in Toronto with Branemark. Only prosthodontist and OMFS could take the course to provide implant therapy. Therefore you should expect to become an expert in implant therapy ranging from knowledge of at several different systems to anterior cases, full arch reconstructions and hybrids. We re the end of the line, anything could walk into your office to be sorted out so you can't say I don't do Astra or spark erosions etc. Surgical placement is also mandated in the curriculum. Programs where you will easily place more than 60, Michigan, Pittsburgh, NY Queens.
3. Conventional full mouth fixed cases. Are there sufficient, ask the residents. Old style txs such as RPD are rare in most schools unless you re in the boonies so don't worry about it. Good luck
 
Agree with Calidental,

There are some really nice programs out there.But to be able to filter out the best and also have the luck of being selected is quite rare,I believe.

There are some real nice programs especially in state schools.The advantage of it being that your fees is either zero or in some you actually get paid.
LSU-for eg is a great school.They have a new building to where they shifted from Baton Rouge.The city is recuperating though,it is still a few years in the works.They are the kings in aesthetic dentistry-no doubt about it.Their wax-ups blew me away.

Certain schools have operative dentistry courses and here is where it gets tricky,I feel.Usually in such situations,you dont get to do Veneers since it goes to Operative.I feel that is ridiculous.

There are schools where Implants are the norm.They do very advanced Pros.Not all schools do advanced Pros.And when I mean adv,I am referring to Tr planning a case with intense collaboration with all the indicated specialties-so that there is no compromise on the result.An attempt at this is very important irrespective of the financial situation of the pt,atleast initially.But if treatment planning is done according to the financial situation-I feel that hurts one's planning skills.

There are very few state schools where you get to learn surgical placement of implants.Prosthodontists are probably the best surgeons(regarding implants) out there,because they think restoratively when placing them,which is highly important.No offense to Perio/OS,but Pros guys will do a great job when properly trained.

Ofcourse,I don't think we will achieve a standard of doing flapless like perio/OS in placements,because-let's face it,no matter how easy it looks,it's simply too complicated to do it.

You need to make sure you learn the hybrids.I feel there is going to be a lot of demand for them and I'm positive that the price will come down a bit too on those.

Overdentures,Single-stage,Singe-piece are all part of the game.But It is necessary to be familiar with a bunch of implant systems to offer your patient a wide variety of choice-unlike in some schools where they are limited to just one system-most definitely because of sponsorships.

I have very limited knowledge on RPDs,but I feel that schools need to look at this part as well.All cases are not fit for implants/fixed.Sometimes the best treatment will be an RPD.I have met quite a lot of residents who either do not know how/simply do not like doing them.But I feel the basics need to be learnt and a couple of cases need be done in residency.

You will never find the perfect match,due to innumerable dynamics,but like my mentor says,
"You can make a great education out of a lousy program-It simply just depends on you."
 
Any feedbacks on maryland prostho program? i'm externing pretty soon and seriously considering to apply

I also applied to Univ of Texas San Ant prostho.. how are their programs?

thanks
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I'm applying to the MCG pros program and I've gotten mixed reviews from former graduates and current residents. Most of the negativity seems to surround the current director. The emphasis is pragmatic clinical training and not research. But most agree the training is still excellent. Plan to spend 60-80h/wk. Pros residency is the second most time consuming residency behind oral surgery. Lots of evenings and weekends spent doing lab work or redoing lab work if you mess up. Another advantage is the high ratio of assistants to residents, they have 4 full-time assistants to the 7 residents. I hear some programs only have one ... yikes!

A new Esthetic and Implant Center is being opened next year, placing implants is taught now and the venerable Dr. Gerard Chiche is going to be joining MCG startng next year. They even hired a master ceramist trained at UCLA under Dr. McClaren.

Stipend is about $21-22k/yr for American trained dentists. Foreign trained have to pay $28-29k/yr tuition.
 
becys said:
The best prosth residency is the one that you choose not to do and go into private practice.
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Why would you say this? A prosthodontist is a huge source of referrals [all those big implant and grafting cases the generalists usually don't do] for the oral surgeon....they are in my town. Hope your philosophy "adjusts" a little when you get in practice....just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to denigrate someone else's desire to pursue it. As a former faculty member at Iowa, I am sure the prosthodontists there would be saddened to see your response.Remember: empathy, tolerance, and respect are what make a great clincian.
 
hi every one
i am international trained dentist looking for residency in periodontistry, i am sponsored, so i don't care if no stippend at all.
 
Anyone know anything about NYU's program?

Does SDN have a section where Pros residents hangout and compare cases?

Why is it when someone applying to programs in pros, not a soul responds to inquiries about programs (Refer to my post 3 weeks ago).
 
Flapster said:
Anyone know anything about NYU's program?

Does SDN have a section where Pros residents hangout and compare cases?

Why is it when someone applying to programs in pros, not a soul responds to inquiries about programs (Refer to my post 3 weeks ago).
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1. There aren't many dental students interested in prosth.

2. The residency forum would be the place for prosth residents to hang out and discuss cases, but as to why that doesn't happen? See 1.
 
armorshell said:
1. There aren't many dental students interested in prosth.

2. The residency forum would be the place for prosth residents to hang out and discuss cases, but as to why that doesn't happen? See 1.
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I am not talking about who is interested or who is not interested in pros, I think that mule has been beaten to death in this forum... I am talking about residents who are in a prostho residency and have cases to post.
 
Flapster said:
I am not talking about who is interested or who is not interested in pros, I think that mule has been beaten to death in this forum... I am talking about residents who are in a prostho residency and have cases to post.
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Armorshell is right. The residency forum is the place for residents to talk about their cases. The fact that there are no active discussions is due to the lack of popularity.
 
I think it is mostly because prostho residents are too busy to have time to post on sdn. Prostho residency is going to be the most intense and time consuming residency there is, even more so than OS.

As for your best programs San Antonio and UF are at the top
 
UTHSCSA in San Antonio has a Perio/Pros 5 year residency program--fantastic program, you can do it all when you leave. Their perio program also offers sinus agumentation training as well as all types of osseous grafting, as do many other perio programs. Oral surgery is not the only domain that does hard and soft tissue grafting.
 
I am very interested in pursuing a prosth speciality, can any one advise me about good solid programs? what should i look for? any one heard anything about buffalo? michigan? rochester? baylor?
washington?
 
I am one of the most interested people in Prosthodontics!!! I LOVE IT! I am intersted in asking what do i need to apply for the residency program??? I graduated with a G.P.A of 3.42/4.00 and am wondering what else do i need to enter the program???

I would appreciate your answers please!!!
 
hi guys, i am an international dentist currently pursuin my internship at mgv dental college , india.my internship would b done in sept 2010..i wish to apply for a pros residency. I hav not appeared for my nbde..so do i hav a chance for getin through for the 2011 cycle in the univ which do not require nbde for international applicants..i am collecting all the necessary documents required for applyin to the univ...can ne1 please tel me about which univ hav good pros residency prog along with a MS degree course...and can ne1 comment whether if il b able 2prac in usa wit the Ms degree or only advanced certificate course in pros is enough for me 2practice.. please reply
 
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aditya87 said:
hi guys, i am an international dentist currently pursuin my internship at mgv dental college , india.my internship would b done in sept 2010..i wish to apply for a pros residency. I hav not appeared for my nbde..so do i hav a chance for getin through for the 2011 cycle in the univ which do not require nbde for international applicants..i am collecting all the necessary documents required for applyin to the univ...can ne1 please tel me about which univ hav good pros residency prog along with a MS degree course...and can ne1 comment whether if il b able 2prac in usa wit the Ms degree or only advanced certificate course in pros is enough for me 2practice.. please reply
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Many schools require at least one step of NBDE. It is a way to rank candidates. You need DDS equivalent to practice in US, so prosth is not enough.
 
thanks for your reply. but i know of a person who has not done DDS and done pros but is still practicing. Please tel me if you can find out...
 
aditya87 said:
thanks for your reply. but i know of a person who has not done DDS and done pros but is still practicing. Please tel me if you can find out...
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I also know of a dentist in Miami who uses their garage as the dental office and their sink as a spitoon. http://www.aegis.com/news/mh/2000/MH000301.html

Depends on the state, you will have to search the state board websites... used to be an option in several states but is not legal anymore. You will at least need to do a 2-year GPR or 3-year DDS program to practice prosthodontics outside of an academic institution.
 
mike3kgt said:
I also know of a dentist in Miami who uses their garage as the dental office and their sink as a spitoon. http://www.aegis.com/news/mh/2000/MH000301.html

Depends on the state, you will have to search the state board websites... used to be an option in several states but is not legal anymore. You will at least need to do a 2-year GPR or 3-year DDS program to practice prosthodontics outside of an academic institution.
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Hey thanks...but there are certain states on the ada website..around 8 or 10 of them where you can practice..thats wat i know for now...please let me know if you have any other information..
 
halosniper008 said:
I think it is mostly because prostho residents are too busy to have time to post on sdn. Prostho residency is going to be the most intense and time consuming residency there is, even more so than OS.

As for your best programs San Antonio and UF are at the top
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That's so true! Most prosthodontists probably don't have the time or the energy to get on to the forum. My husband is a prosthodontist and whatever spare time he has, he'd rather golf. I couldn't agree more with this poster and all the postings from Dr Phan. He said it so well. I'm married to one so I know the hours that one has to put in while in residency. Lectures, clinical work, after hours lab work, case presentations take up most of your time. It was very demanding but the pay off is great once you're done with school. I have to admit my husband loves his profession. And again, it's not a dying profession! He is doing quite well in terms of $$$.
 
young dentist said:
How is the program at UW. I am thinking of applying for it. I am an international dentist
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I've heard good things about it. Supposed to be pretty heavy in the perio-pros stuff as I think Frank Spear is on faculty there? Maybe Kois too? A few other big names as well. Sorry, don't know more than that... apply and check it out on the interview.
 
am i missing or overlooking something because i see absolutely no mention of uab??..... is it because it happens to be in alabama??..... that school is an absolute leader in innovation and research, receives record amounts of funding. the graduate prosthodontics program is world renowned, the 12 member residency program is mostly made up of international dentists from all over the world..... they are up to their ears in implant based prosthetics, work hand in hand with perio residents by either assisting with their own patients or being guided and mentored while doing the surgeries themselves..... there is NEVER a lack of pts, full mouth rehab, implant retaineds..... find it good or bad that yes u will have lab work, yes u will be involved in every part of the process, yes u will truly have a full pt load..... yes u need to have english skills but u wouldnt be reading this now if u werent confident in ur ability to express english dentistry to americans who expect the best when it comes to healthcare......no, pros isnt dying and that "little" school in birmingham alabama is truly a highly respected one..... tuition bout 1-2 years ago was round $12, 000..... just throwing out an overview, feel free to check it out.....
 
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