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[dazedanconfused]

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I have been searching these forums a lot and sort of found and answer, but not entirely. My cc does not offer Bio I & II, so I was simply going to take Bio principles (w/ lab) and A&P I (w/ lab) to satisfy my one year of Bio requirement. From what I have read on these forums that should satisfy it (generally speaking), but here is where the problem arises. Will this biology be enough for the MCAT? I have been told that A&P is a good course for MCAT prep; however, I was just wondering if I will be at an disadvantage by not taking Bio I & II (as is per the norm).

Another scenario that could avoid all this is to just take physics I & II (non calculus based) and fulfill my bio requirement at the 4 year uni that I will be transferring to after I receive my associates. The only problem with this path is I do not know if my math knowledge would be enough to get me through it. I have taken pre-cal in high school and am very knowledgeable in algebra, I am just not sure what to expect in physics (did not take in in high school)

Which path seems to be the most sound? I would really appreciates peoples opinions on this.

 

[missbones]

I have been searching these forums a lot and sort of found and answer, but not entirely. My cc does not offer Bio I & II, so I was simply going to take Bio principles (w/ lab) and A&P I (w/ lab) to satisfy my one year of Bio requirement. From what I have read on these forums that should satisfy it (generally speaking), but here is where the problem arises. Will this biology be enough for the MCAT? I have been told that A&P is a good course for MCAT prep; however, I was just wondering if I will be at an disadvantage by not taking Bio I & II (as is per the norm).

Another scenario that could avoid all this is to just take physics I & II (non calculus based) and fulfill my bio requirement at the 4 year uni that I will be transferring to after I receive my associates. The only problem with this path is I do not know if my math knowledge would be enough to get me through it. I have taken pre-cal in high school and am very knowledgeable in algebra, I am just not sure what to expect in physics (did not take in in high school)

Which path seems to be the most sound? I would really appreciates peoples opinions on this.

Your pre-reqs should be taken at a 4 year university. Why can't you do both at the uni level?

 

[FrkyBgStok]

if you can take them there do it, if not CC should work but you really need to try to find out what is taught in Bio I and II elsewhere and make sure everything is covered. these are generally broken up into 2 blocks per semester (cover 4 different aspects of biology over a year). also most physics courses require college algebra or higher as a prereq, and rightfully so and you will probably need some of it.

 

[jvesco22]

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[dazedanconfused]

Your pre-reqs should be taken at a 4 year university. Why can't you do both at the uni level?

They do not have to be done at a 4 year uni. I choose to do some of them at a CC because it is cheaper for me. It is not like I am going to do organic chem or something hard at CC just to make it easier, I am simply taken them there for financial reasons.

if you can take them there do it, if not CC should work but you really need to try to find out what is taught in Bio I and II elsewhere and make sure everything is covered. these are generally broken up into 2 blocks per semester (cover 4 different aspects of biology over a year). also most physics courses require college algebra or higher as a prereq, and rightfully so and you will probably need some of it.

Not sure this really addresses any of my questions. I was going to figure out what is taught in Bio I + II, I just figured someone on here might give a little insight from there experiences if A&P were enough to do well on the MCAT. For physics I have taken college algebra and got a 103% (not trying to brag just showing that I have a solid understanding of the material), so that should not be a problem. I was just wondering if the pre-cal I got in college would be enough to get me through the math side of physics.

I don't mean to be harsh or all knowing I just have had a bad day, so if I come off harsh just know it is not personal 😳.

 

[maxx52188]

Your pre-reqs should be taken at a 4 year university.

Incorrect.

 

[morning]

Your pre-reqs should be taken at a 4 year university. Why can't you do both at the uni level?

People do get into med school with CC prereqs. It's my understanding that these guidelines work:

1. Have an equal or better GPA at a 4 year university compared to the community college, so it doesn't look like you excelled solely because it was a CC.

2. If you take pre-reqs at a community college, TRY to take upper division courses in that discipline at a university.

3. Try to take both courses in a sequence at a single place instead of splitting them up (i.e. gen chem I and gen chem II at the CC instead of one at the CC and one at the uni.)

 

[FrkyBgStok]

They do not have to be done at a 4 year uni. I choose to do some of them at a CC because it is cheaper for me. It is not like I am going to do organic chem or something hard at CC just to make it easier, I am simply taken them there for financial reasons.



Not sure this really addresses any of my questions. I was going to figure out what is taught in Bio I + II, I just figured someone on here might give a little insight from there experiences if A&P were enough to do well on the MCAT. For physics I have taken college algebra and got a 103% (not trying to brag just showing that I have a solid understanding of the material), so that should not be a problem. I was just wondering if the pre-cal I got in college would be enough to get me through the math side of physics.

I don't mean to be harsh or all knowing I just have had a bad day, so if I come off harsh just know it is not personal 😳.

it addresses all your questions. you just don't know how to extrapolate. bio i and ii covers 4 different subjects. anatomy and physiology covers, well, anatomy and physiology. so no. this will not be enough for the mcat as the mcat covers those 4 subjects. it will help you on anatomy and physiology portions of the mcat but will not cover all of the biological sciences.

moreover many schools wants Bio 1 and 2 because it covers the 4 subjects.

now talking about the physics, either you are lying or you have no idea what you have done. you just claimed you got 103% in college algebra however in your first post you said quote "The only problem with this path is I do not know if my math knowledge would be enough to get me through it. I have taken pre-cal in high school and am very knowledgeable in algebra."

so maybe you are right. maybe i didn't answer your questions. but how am i supposed to answer them when you don't give correct information or you don't even know what the questions you want to ask are. so sorry.

 

[gravitywave]

People do get into med school with CC prereqs. It's my understanding that these guidelines work:

1. Have an equal or better GPA at a 4 year university compared to the community college, so it doesn't look like you excelled solely because it was a CC.

2. If you take pre-reqs at a community college, TRY to take upper division courses in that discipline at a university.

3. Try to take both courses in a sequence at a single place instead of splitting them up (i.e. gen chem I and gen chem II at the CC instead of one at the CC and one at the uni.)

this. ideally you take >8 credits upper division bio and >16 credits upper division chem at the four year school and excel at them. this way you've satisfied the course requirements explicitly at the university level. the physics is irrelevant with a good PS score on the MCAT.

if you're good at algebra, then you'll be fine with the algebra based physics found on the MCAT. just don't take calc-based physics courses (duh)

bear in mind also that course content is surprisingly useless for MCAT prep. everything on the MCAT can be studied on its own, regardless of whether you've had it in class. you're going to have to go back over it all, anyway....

 

[dazedanconfused]

it addresses all your questions. you just don't know how to extrapolate. bio i and ii covers 4 different subjects. anatomy and physiology covers, well, anatomy and physiology. so no. this will not be enough for the mcat as the mcat covers those 4 subjects. it will help you on anatomy and physiology portions of the mcat but will not cover all of the biological sciences.

moreover many schools wants Bio 1 and 2 because it covers the 4 subjects.

now talking about the physics, either you are lying or you have no idea what you have done. you just claimed you got 103% in college algebra however in your first post you said quote "The only problem with this path is I do not know if my math knowledge would be enough to get me through it. I have taken pre-cal in high school and am very knowledgeable in algebra."

so maybe you are right. maybe i didn't answer your questions. but how am i supposed to answer them when you don't give correct information or you don't even know what the questions you want to ask are. so sorry.

Oh my bad man I didnt read your first post correctly. I just skimmed it, which I see was a bad idea know lol. I see what you are saying though thanks.

As for the math knowledge I was told that physics you need at least college algebra and trig. I have never taken trig, but I was wondering if the high school pre-cal plus the college algebra would be enough math. I know that if I took pre-cal I should have enough; however, I just was not sure if high school pre-cal covered enough (generally speaking). The main reason I ask this, is because I have not been exposed to physics (as a course) at all in high school (took a different class). I am not sure If it is my wording, but I hope I explained it better this time.

[As a note I went up to pre-cal in high school, but took college algebra in college due to the fact that I had no idea what I wanted to do and simply wanted to take the easiest classes. That is why I did those math classes out of order if that helps a little.]

this. ideally you take >8 credits upper division bio and >16 credits upper division chem at the four year school and excel at them. this way you've satisfied the course requirements explicitly at the university level. the physics is irrelevant with a good PS score on the MCAT.

if you're good at algebra, then you'll be fine with the algebra based physics found on the MCAT. just don't take calc-based physics courses (duh)

bear in mind also that course content is surprisingly useless for MCAT prep. everything on the MCAT can be studied on its own, regardless of whether you've had it in class. you're going to have to go back over it all, anyway....

That makes sense, thanks for clarifying the MCAT issue. I figured it would be like that; however, I was not sure.