Blacking out name on application

[coffeeeandtea]

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No I haven't taken the MCAT yet. I agree it would be harder to transition from wealthy to poverty vs the converse. But to say a financially disadvantaged applicant with impressive numbers is more impressive, and thus more deserving of a spot in med school ignores the fact that an equally accomplished student from a wealthy background couldn't have pulled off the same stunt- This person was obviously never given the chance to show it. But of course nobody's going wait for this to happen.

Ok I'm not going on with this bc I'm starting to repeat myself, plus it's getting offtopic from OP's.

So what you're saying is that the wealthy person should be accepted instead of the financially disadvantaged person, who probably had to overcome more obstacles (i.e. working a job or multiple jobs to put themselves through school, at the same time doing all the ECs that the wealthy person did) just to be EQUAL to the wealthy person? People who have money have multitudes of opportunities to pursue whatever they'd like; people with lower income, on the other hand, can only pursue whatever they can afford (which often isn't very much). Shouldn't the fact that the person who had to go through SO much just to be equal to most other people be rewarded in society? What is that saying if we don't? If you're poor, you're pretty much going to stay poor because we only reward the effort of people who already have money. Obviously I'm not saying choose the poor person over the rich person in EVERY case, but if they are indeed equal candidates, there HAS to be something that allows one to be accepted - which should NOT be on the basis of race, but rather on economic status/disadvantaged status, IMO (because there ARE poor Asian Americans and whites, despite their high concentration in professional careers)

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I wholeheartedly disagree. They are certainly no more attractive than ANY other ethnicity of women.

Now you're just being ridiculous. Our women are clearly the reason for our outrageous representation in medicine and I won't stand for your LIES!

Man, Asian girls so fine. In the words of Jin: "So many different dishes, all so delicious."

 

[JeetKuneDo]

So what you're saying is that the wealthy person should be accepted instead of the financially disadvantaged person, who probably had to overcome more obstacles (i.e. working a job or multiple jobs to put themselves through school, at the same time doing all the ECs that the wealthy person did) just to be EQUAL to the wealthy person? People who have money have multitudes of opportunities to pursue whatever they'd like; people with lower income, on the other hand, can only pursue whatever they can afford (which often isn't very much). Shouldn't the fact that the person who had to go through SO much just to be equal to most other people be rewarded in society? What is that saying if we don't? If you're poor, you're pretty much going to stay poor because we only reward the effort of people who already have money. Obviously I'm not saying choose the poor person over the rich person in EVERY case, but if they are indeed equal candidates, there HAS to be something that allows one to be accepted - which should NOT be on the basis of race, but rather on economic status/disadvantaged status, IMO (because there ARE poor Asian Americans and whites, despite their high concentration in professional careers)

I think this is where Handy and a few others are trying to get at. Just be colorblind and base it on stats, EC's, and economic status.

However, if two candidates are really, really equal, meaning their stats are exact twins, EC's are both amazing (and the same), and both had the same socioeconomic status, would this be a good time to choose based on race?

 

[Handy388]

I think this is where Handy and a few others are trying to get at. Just be colorblind and base it on stats, EC's, and economic status.

However, if two candidates are really, really equal, meaning their stats are exact twins, EC's are both amazing (and the same), and both had the same socioeconomic status, would this be a good time to choose based on race?

if that is the case, I support a tie breaker based on race because we do need more URM physicians. this is racism, but a necessary evil because a gross lack in URM physicians

What I have problem is wealthy URM students get into program JUST because of their skin color, while having less numerical stats and ECs. Believe me, those exists. I have already explained in numerous posts that this particular brand of evil is unjust and unnecessary because it doesn't even produce more physicians that's more likely to serve the URM community.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

if that is the case, I support a tie breaker based on race because we do need more URM physicians. this is racism, but a necessary evil because a gross lack in URM physicians

What I have problem is wealthy URM students get into program JUST because of their skin color, while having less numerical stats and ECs. Believe me, those exists. I have already explained in numerous posts that this particular brand of evil is unjust and unnecessary because it doesn't even produce more physicians that's more likely to serve the URM community.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I agree with all your posts.

 

[binko]

Man, Asian girls so fine. In the words of Jin: "So many different dishes, all so delicious."

Ugh. This board is such a boys' club sometimes.

 

[nick_carraway]

Ugh. This board is such a boys' club sometimes.

Not just the board 🙂

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Ugh. This board is such a boys' club sometimes.

Lol, more fun that way.😀