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Congratulations to all that matched this year. Seemed like a tough year, especially with matched board scores are getting higher and higher.

I'm sure this has been asked at some point, but...

I did poorly on Step I (I only got the mean) but did a little better on Step II (230s). My question is -- does anyone even care about Step II? Or is my Step I score going to hold me back from ophtho?

Just wondering if anyone (esp. those in the know, like Dr. Doan) can provide insight...
 
I think you'll be fine with your scores if you got decent grades on 3rd yr rotations and did a couple Ophtho rotations, got good letters... if the average step score is 228, that means HALF of all matchees scores less than that. Don't get scared off by the studs on this board; just apply to a ton of programs and don't be selective when doing so.
 
Originally posted by dammit2
Congratulations to all that matched this year. Seemed like a tough year, especially with matched board scores are getting higher and higher.

I'm sure this has been asked at some point, but...

I did poorly on Step I (I only got the mean) but did a little better on Step II (230s). My question is -- does anyone even care about Step II? Or is my Step I score going to hold me back from ophtho?

Just wondering if anyone (esp. those in the know, like Dr. Doan) can provide insight...

You should go for it. Garp makes a good point that half are under the mean of ~228. When I applied, my Step I was slightly above the mean, but I had many other unique things on my application.

For instance, I started an E-Bay business during medical school where I sold electronics and Pokemon cards. I purchased the Pokemon cards from Wizards of the Coast in Seattle for about $10, but because they were always sold out across the US, people would turn to E-Bay to buy Pokemon cards. I got the idea when it took me 6 hours to find two decks for my nephews from a mall specialty store that sold them for double the retail price. I reasoned that if I had to spend 6 hours of my time to end up paying double for something; then, why not go to eBay and pay double there, only spend 5 seconds placing my bid, and the item comes to my home! I have just saved 6 hours of my time; thus, if I was someone making $20/hour, then I just saved $120. I placed ~5-10 decks per day on auction starting at 1 penny, and people would bid the decks to $15-$40 per deck. The Pokemon craze lasted for months, and I used the profits to buy electronics to sell. It was a small family business for 2-3 years.

I did NOT mention the business in my personal statement, but instead, had it under my hobbies as an "internet business with my wife".

At almost every interview, I was asked about this business in great detail. Interviewers were more interested in the eBay business model than my PhD, publications, or ophthalmology clerkships.

My point is that the board scores help with the interview selection; however, once you get the interview, then it's a whole new ball game. You will also be surprised when a hobby or extracurricular activity will help you stand out from the rest of the group. Good luck!
 
"Garp makes a good point that half are under the mean of ~228."


That assumes a guassian distribution of scores amongst applicants. Mean doesn't always equal median. Any evidence of this?
 
I would not apply only to Ophthalmology programs. You probably need a backup program since your stats are on the lower end. Good luck!
 
Andrew makes a good point. Something interesting on your resume makes all the difference in the world. I tried to strengthen my resume by working at the Lions Eye Bank in my town, taking call at night and going out to retrieve donor corneas. On my interviews, that's all anyone ever wanted to talk about! They just had lots of questions about how it was done. I wonder if I got a few interviews just on the basis of that job.

And as far as applying to other specialties, you can do that as well but you don't have to until you start getting feedback from ophtho programs. For instance, if you have applied for ophtho and it is late November and you have only received 3 interview offers, then yes it might be time to look at some back-ups. But you can wait until then so you don't have to waste money too early.

Redhawk, you're right, that was an inaccurate statement about the average matching board score. But you would have to agree that a significant percentage of matchees would have to have scored under 228 for that to be the mean.
 
Thanks to all for your input.

I actually spoke to the ophtho residency director at my school. While he condeded that I didn't have strong numbers, he believed that I wouldn't be ruled out. Still, from seeing some of the stats on here -- especially the incredible stats of the people who somehow DIDN'T match -- I got worried that he was just protecting my ego.

It would have been reassuring to see just ONE person with my scores post that he/she matched!
 
I got tons of questions about my hobbies. For some reason they skipped right past photography and r/c airplane modeling and really asked lots of questions about my personal business too. Who knew they would find marijuana farming and sales so interesting?

Anyway...I really need to figure out why I didn't match, with all the interest my hobby drew.

Ged
 
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