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so damn expensive! anyone here buy any of the WHO classification books? they're so hard to get (some are out of print)....and there are tons of them.

what books have you guys bought, if any? right now, i'm just feeding off the library for information and the online virtual libraries.
 

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rirriri said:
so damn expensive! anyone here buy any of the WHO classification books? they're so hard to get (some are out of print)....and there are tons of them.

what books have you guys bought, if any? right now, i'm just feeding off the library for information and the online virtual libraries.
Expensive is an understatement! The only one I've purchased so far is Sternberg, and the WHO lymphoma/leukemia classification book. Once the new edition comes out, I'll probably by Henry's book for Clinical Pathology.

In the meantime, I've decided to take the earlier edition of Histology for Pathologists out from our school library--still deciding if I will buy that one when the new edition comes out.
 
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Brian Pavlovitz said:
Expensive is an understatement! The only one I've purchased so far is Sternberg, and the WHO lymphoma/leukemia classification book. Once the new edition comes out, I'll probably by Henry's book for Clinical Pathology.

In the meantime, I've decided to take the earlier edition of Histology for Pathologists out from our school library--still deciding if I will buy that one when the new edition comes out.
is Sternberg good? i really want the whole WHO series....i like what i see in them so far......i've been reading Rosai when i get the chance....i WANTED to cover about 10-20 pages a day at least, although this doesn't always happen (espacially since i'm just using the departmental copy)

we really should get a book allowance dammit.
 
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rirriri said:
is Sternberg good? i really want the whole WHO series....i like what i see in them so far......i've been reading Rosai when i get the chance....i WANTED to cover about 10-20 pages a day at least, although this doesn't always happen (espacially since i'm just using the departmental copy)

we really should get a book allowance dammit.
I like Sternberg. Not as complete as Rosai (which has better quality photos and is more complete) but Sternberg is very practical. Also Rosai is written buy one guy (I think) so you get a limited perspective. Whereas Sternberg has multiple contributors.
 

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rirriri said:
is Sternberg good? i really want the whole WHO series....i like what i see in them so far......i've been reading Rosai when i get the chance....i WANTED to cover about 10-20 pages a day at least, although this doesn't always happen (espacially since i'm just using the departmental copy)

we really should get a book allowance dammit.
I did not realize there were programs that did not give residents a book fund...
 

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....i WANTED to cover about 10-20 pages a day at least,
Unless you're a savant don't bother. I had a similar idea but it's utterly useless to just sit down and read a surgical pathology text as a first year resident. When you have some experience and have developed a context for the major lesions in each organ system then cold reading Rosai or Sternberg will make some sense.

If you want to read something useful start with Robbins. It's inexpensive and digestable.
 

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Unless you're a savant don't bother. I had a similar idea but it's utterly useless to just sit down and read a surgical pathology text as a first year resident. When you have some experience and have developed a context for the major lesions in each organ system then cold reading Rosai or Sternberg will make some sense.

If you want to read something useful start with Robbins. It's inexpensive and digestable.
I think the Hopkins surgical pathology site is very helpful as well.
You can search by organ system. it's very thorough.
Pathoutlines is a decent site as well.
http://pathology2.jhu.edu/sp/

http://www.pathologyoutlines.com/
 
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I think the Hopkins surgical pathology site is very helpful as well.
You can search by organ system. it's very thorough.
Pathoutlines is a decent site as well.
http://pathology2.jhu.edu/sp/

http://www.pathologyoutlines.com/
that hopkins site is great. cheers for the link!

you guys are right about reading, i tried reading WHILE looking at cases before signing out this week, and while it did help me----it took way too much time to digest and wasn't nearly as helpful as just orienting myself to key structures and focusing on the more important aspects first.

cheers for the advice
 

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Is anyone currently reading from or browsed through Silverberg's Principles and Practice of Surgical Pathology and Cytopathology?

Is it worth buying Silverberg instead of a combo of Sternberg and Demay? :confused:
 

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Is anyone currently reading from or browsed through Silverberg's Principles and Practice of Surgical Pathology and Cytopathology?

Is it worth buying Silverberg instead of a combo of Sternberg and Demay? :confused:

I own and like Silverberg quite a bit. It is readable and digestible in small doses even in the midst of a busy surg path rotation. If you're in the market for an introductory cyto book I can recommend Cibas.. much more user-friendly than the baby DeMay IMHO.

If you want a trial of a book before you buy it, consider taking advantage of interlibrary loan, available free somewhere close to you. I'm amazed that more people don't use it!
 

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asimov38 said:
Is anyone currently reading from or browsed through Silverberg's Principles and Practice of Surgical Pathology and Cytopathology?

Is it worth buying Silverberg instead of a combo of Sternberg and Demay? :confused:
I have Silverberg, Demay, and Cibas.

I really like Silverberg. The cyto side-by-side with the surg path is very nice and presents a whole-view approach to various entities.

Baby Demay is alright. (almost) Everybody in our program has it. People swear by it. I'm a bit underwhelmed. When you read it, the descriptions all seem to say the same things.

Cibas I really like because it has nice like bulleted tables for a lot of entities with the important points, then semi-wordy descriptive comments. Nice pictures also.

As for reading... I read 25 pages a day, everyday. It doesn't sound like a lot, but you can get through Robbins in 2.5 months, Henry in 2.5 months, etc. This takes me about 2.5 hours a day. Then if I'm on surg path I try to read on at least 2 of the more interesting cases for whatever run I'm on.
 
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