Booted out due to politics (anyone else experienced this?)

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Two things:

1) Signing the write up does NOT mean you admit to what is being claimed. It's just an acknowledgment of what is being accused. Kinda like getting a speeding ticket, you have to sign it so you know what you're getting. It's not an admission of guilt.

2) There is something HUGE missing from this story. Corporate America isn't very smart but there is no way they would fire someone without reason like this.
 
DrPepsi said:
Two things:

1) Signing the write up does NOT mean you admit to what is being claimed. It's just an acknowledgment of what is being accused. Kinda like getting a speeding ticket, you have to sign it so you know what you're getting. It's not an admission of guilt.

2) There is something HUGE missing from this story. Corporate America isn't very smart but there is no way they would fire someone without reason like this.
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I'm not going to post, here or anywhere else, what I was accused of, but your #2 is incorrect and may not have happened at all. I believe I was "chosen" for the reasons already stated in this thread - in other words, they thought they could get away with it. This kind of thing is rampant in nursing and has been for many years.
 
Oh, and here's something else I didn't think of until just now. A couple weeks before I left, we had a department meeting about some upcoming changes in the department, and one of them was a proposal to have designated department snitches. That wasn't quite how it was phrased, but that's what it would have boiled down to. 😕 There was a lot of talk about that later on and how insulted we all were that such a thing would even be proposed. We are adults, or so I thought.
 
DrPepsi said:
2) There is something HUGE missing from this story. Corporate America isn't very smart but there is no way they would fire someone without reason like this.
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BTW, yes, there is something else I hadn't mentioned, but it has to be and it will knock your socks off.

This new graduate's stepfather is a pharmacist and was our director for a while, and while I do not know exactly why he left myself, I do know that he got screwed over even worse than I did. The only reason I can fathom why the (step)son decided to work for us is because he will have $24,000 in student loans forgiven if he gives them 3 years of his life.

And it's all been especially distressing because Mr. New Graduate is a really nice guy and I was very much looking forward to working with him. I don't blame him for any of this AT ALL.
 
rph3664 said:
BTW, yes, there is something else I hadn't mentioned, but it has to be and it will knock your socks off.

This new graduate's stepfather is a pharmacist and was our director for a while, and while I do not know exactly why he left myself, I do know that he got screwed over even worse than I did. The only reason I can fathom why the (step)son decided to work for us is because he will have $24,000 in student loans forgiven if he gives them 3 years of his life.

And it's all been especially distressing because Mr. New Graduate is a really nice guy and I was very much looking forward to working with him. I don't blame him for any of this AT ALL.
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holy ****!!! they do student loan repayment? i couldn't find any place that would do that.
 
I'm not at all surprised by this story. These sorts of things are rampant in both the public and private sectors. It's why we need unions, IMO. Unions can be annoying because they will complicate the firing of lousy employees, but they also protect people like me, who suck at politics.

I worked at a store where the boss fired three people after money mysteriously disappeared from their tills. (The boss had a gambling problem, BTW.) She got into a fight with the cosmetician, then $300 disappeared from this woman's till, and she was fired. One of the boss' cousins was hired to replace her.

I got into a fight with her because she wanted me to wear a pink bow tie. As a young person I was more of a goth than a girlie girl, and a pink bow tie was also not part of the corporate uniform. A week later, I was called into her office and told that $250 was missing from my till during one of my shifts (I counted the money myself, and nothing was missing on that day). She said, "We're not accusing you of anything, but we can't have you working here anymore."

I tried complaining up the corporate ladder, but the boss was married to a vice-president of the company. So no dice - and I couldn't afford to sue.

At some point I might get into a dispute I had with a big boss at my current employer. But I still work here - because I'm in a union.
 
Pharmavixen said:
I'm not at all surprised by this story. These sorts of things are rampant in both the public and private sectors. It's why we need unions, IMO. Unions can be annoying because they will complicate the firing of lousy employees, but they also protect people like me, who suck at politics.

I worked at a store where the boss fired three people after money mysteriously disappeared from their tills. (The boss had a gambling problem, BTW.) She got into a fight with the cosmetician, then $300 disappeared from this woman's till, and she was fired. One of the boss' cousins was hired to replace her.

I got into a fight with her because she wanted me to wear a pink bow tie. As a young person I was more of a goth than a girlie girl, and a pink bow tie was also not part of the corporate uniform. A week later, I was called into her office and told that $250 was missing from my till during one of my shifts (I counted the money myself, and nothing was missing on that day). She said, "We're not accusing you of anything, but we can't have you working here anymore."

I tried complaining up the corporate ladder, but the boss was married to a vice-president of the company. So no dice - and I couldn't afford to sue.

At some point I might get into a dispute I had with a big boss at my current employer. But I still work here - because I'm in a union.
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I have seen that in my former position. SM's with debt problems out the wazoo. We always knew that when the creditors called at the store that drawers would be short the next day. They always were after they called. We all just looked at each other. Calling HR was a complete joke, they did not want to hear about. Sometimes the store manager would write up everyone on a shift. DM did not believe anyone but the SM's. I really think unions will come into being in pharmacy. I remeber stories my father and grandparents told about working in the coal mines before unions. The parallels are amazing.
 
Pharmavixen said:
I'm not at all surprised by this story. These sorts of things are rampant in both the public and private sectors. It's why we need unions, IMO. Unions can be annoying because they will complicate the firing of lousy employees, but they also protect people like me, who suck at politics.
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As a business owner and a pharmacist, I would absolutely oppose a union. I promise you that you will become more of a target if you join a nationwide pharmacy union than what you would be as a young graduate out of pharmacy school. It just won't happen.

rph3664 said:
Oh, and here's something else I didn't think of until just now. A couple weeks before I left, we had a department meeting about some upcoming changes in the department, and one of them was a proposal to have designated department snitches. That wasn't quite how it was phrased, but that's what it would have boiled down to. 😕 There was a lot of talk about that later on and how insulted we all were that such a thing would even be proposed. We are adults, or so I thought.
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rph3664 said:
BTW, yes, there is something else I hadn't mentioned, but it has to be and it will knock your socks off.

This new graduate's stepfather is a pharmacist and was our director for a while, and while I do not know exactly why he left myself, I do know that he got screwed over even worse than I did. The only reason I can fathom why the (step)son decided to work for us is because he will have $24,000 in student loans forgiven if he gives them 3 years of his life.

And it's all been especially distressing because Mr. New Graduate is a really nice guy and I was very much looking forward to working with him. I don't blame him for any of this AT ALL.
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You better hope that the company doesn't have dirt on you (as in proof that they don't need you anymore like proof of theft, not meeting the goals of the company, HR issue, etc) because if not then you're screwed.

By the way, are you currently working?
 
Pharmavixen said:
I'm not at all surprised by this story. These sorts of things are rampant in both the public and private sectors. It's why we need unions, IMO. Unions can be annoying because they will complicate the firing of lousy employees, but they also protect people like me, who suck at politics.

I worked at a store where the boss fired three people after money mysteriously disappeared from their tills. (The boss had a gambling problem, BTW.) She got into a fight with the cosmetician, then $300 disappeared from this woman's till, and she was fired. One of the boss' cousins was hired to replace her.

I got into a fight with her because she wanted me to wear a pink bow tie. As a young person I was more of a goth than a girlie girl, and a pink bow tie was also not part of the corporate uniform. A week later, I was called into her office and told that $250 was missing from my till during one of my shifts (I counted the money myself, and nothing was missing on that day). She said, "We're not accusing you of anything, but we can't have you working here anymore."

I tried complaining up the corporate ladder, but the boss was married to a vice-president of the company. So no dice - and I couldn't afford to sue.

At some point I might get into a dispute I had with a big boss at my current employer. But I still work here - because I'm in a union.
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There's almost no such thing as due process in pharmacy. It's definitely a dog-eat-dog sort of career.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I got in a situation where the clique of pharmacists that are friends with the director got all pissed off at me because their clinical programs were questionable...and I let them know this...so to retaliate for daring to question them, they started tracking my mistakes for months...at one point the director wrote me up for putting in "albuteral q4h prn" as albuterol q6h prn". Yeah...pathetic. A month later I got called into his office for putting in a duplicate therapy of...oh god no...omeprazole. Like that mistake doesn't happen 3 times a week. Meanwhile, one of his special pharmacists almost made a kid go into a coma because they put in 110 units of insulin for a dose rather than 10 units...but nothing ever happened there. For her, it was a simple error that any human might make. If I put in omeprazole twice on the MAR, I'm a dangerous idiot that needs disciplined.

Of course, the night pharmacists have said to everyone over and over that when they do the MAR corrections at the end of the day, my error rate is actually better than most...it's just that nobody shows the director everyone else's minor errors every time they happen...

Then came the malevolent scheduling. Imagine this...you are all alone on a Saturday morning...and they give you 2 floor techs...with like 5 months of experience each...might as well be there by yourself...census was 160 or 170...during the H1N1 craze...plus you have to do employee scripts...and they opened up an entire new hospital floor on Friday that they are filling up on your shift. Hell on Earth.

And then on monday...one of the ***** that hates you comes in early just to look for any mistakes you might have made...like 8 all weekend...none major...all stupid things that didn't even affect patient care...the director calls you at home...after months of this ****, you are fed up, go on a 5 minute rant about how much of a ****ing idiot he and his RPh buddies are...and tell him that you're done with him...and hang up on him...

And even though you thought you made it clear you weren't ever coming back, the ******* calls you to tell you that you've been terminated, completely ignoring the fact that you screamed at him on the phone until you were blue in the face and quit. Though that is kind of a mixed blessing being as though I used that to draw unemployment...although the black eye is a bitch...

...oh, and a week later, the hospital hired a woman that is friends with that group of people that railroaded me. She just happened to be looking for a job. 🙄

Now...I probably shouldn't have done that and acted professional in the face of those idiots... definitely a lesson learned. Don't hand them a reason to get rid of you gift wrapped with a bow on it.

Good times. I've been looking for a job for months. Everyone at my old hospital except for the 3 *******s that didn't like me all told me to use them as references (everyone from the buyer to the techs to the other pharmacists) and have been feeding me job leads. None have panned out being as though that area is ungodly saturated...but I do appreciate it.

I'm thinking about going back to retail. I'm sick of these pretentious ****s that take offense to someone that disagrees with them. And they are in every hospital...everywhere. At least in retail, it's blue collar people...doing a blue collar job....my type of people.

I like the people that do retail soooo much more...but I like the work of hospital. Kind of a conundrum, eh?
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Overnight retail- Yo!

You work alone, fly under the management radar (what kind of 9-5 supervisor's gonna hit you up? LOL!), i.e. autonomy, and the customers are off their rockers just enough to keep it interesting. Plus, who's lined up and fighting for that position?... job security. 🙂
 
Old said:
I have seen that in my former position. SM's with debt problems out the wazoo. We always knew that when the creditors called at the store that drawers would be short the next day. They always were after they called. We all just looked at each other. Calling HR was a complete joke, they did not want to hear about. Sometimes the store manager would write up everyone on a shift. DM did not believe anyone but the SM's. I really think unions will come into being in pharmacy. I remeber stories my father and grandparents told about working in the coal mines before unions. The parallels are amazing.
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Before unions, coal miners made six figures in a well-light, air-conditioned environment, where the worst thing that happens most days is the phone keeps ringing while you are trying to help the people in the store/drive-thru?

Worst union ever! Behind the UAW, of course.
 
Those in the original coal unions were some of the ballsiest, bravest Americans that have ever lived.

Just look up the Battle of Blair Mountain. They fought against the ****ing US military to get better working conditions. I'm not talking silent protest...I mean, they literally got guns and had a mini-war with the US Army. Sid Hatfield and the boys. True American heroes. Why that **** isn't more well known is beyond me.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Those in the original coal unions were some of the ballsiest, bravest Americans that have ever lived.

Just look up the Battle of Blair Mountain. They fought against the ****ing US military to get better working conditions. I'm not talking silent protest...I mean, they literally got guns and had a mini-war with the US Army. Sid Hatfield and the boys. True American heroes. Why that **** isn't more well known is beyond me.
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Yeah... How'd that turn out?

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Ripped from Wiki:

Legacy

In the long-term, the battle raised awareness of the appalling conditions faced by miners in the dangerous West Virginia coalfields, and led directly to a change in union tactics into political battles to get the law on labor's side via confrontations with recalcitrant and abusive managements and thence to the much larger organized labor victory a few years later during the New Deal in 1933. That in turn led to the UMWA helping organize many better-known unions such as the Steel workers during the mid-thirties.
In the final analysis, management's success was a pyrrhic victory that helped lead to a much larger and stronger organized labor movement in many other industries and labor union affiliations and umbrella organizations like the American Federation of Labor (AFL) and Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO). The Battle of Blair Mountain was an important part of the labor movement. In April 2008, Blair Mountain was chosen for the list of protected places on the National Register of Historic Places. This decision has been contested by the state of West Virginia, therefore this nomination is currently under review.

Not sure if you can draw the same conclusions (not being familiar with the dynamics here) - but I would call it a win for the people.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
I got in a situation where the clique of pharmacists that are friends with the director got all pissed off at me because their clinical programs were questionable...and I let them know this...so to retaliate for daring to question them, they started tracking my mistakes for months...at one point the director wrote me up for putting in "albuteral q4h prn" as albuterol q6h prn". Yeah...pathetic. A month later I got called into his office for putting in a duplicate therapy of...oh god no...omeprazole. Like that mistake doesn't happen 3 times a week. Meanwhile, one of his special pharmacists almost made a kid go into a coma because they put in 110 units of insulin for a dose rather than 10 units...but nothing ever happened there. For her, it was a simple error that any human might make. If I put in omeprazole twice on the MAR, I'm a dangerous idiot that needs disciplined.

Of course, the night pharmacists have said to everyone over and over that when they do the MAR corrections at the end of the day, my error rate is actually better than most...it's just that nobody shows the director everyone else's minor errors every time they happen...

Then came the malevolent scheduling. Imagine this...you are all alone on a Saturday morning...and they give you 2 floor techs...with like 5 months of experience each...might as well be there by yourself...census was 160 or 170...during the H1N1 craze...plus you have to do employee scripts...and they opened up an entire new hospital floor on Friday that they are filling up on your shift. Hell on Earth.

And then on monday...one of the ***** that hates you comes in early just to look for any mistakes you might have made...like 8 all weekend...none major...all stupid things that didn't even affect patient care...the director calls you at home...after months of this ****, you are fed up, go on a 5 minute rant about how much of a ****ing idiot he and his RPh buddies are...and tell him that you're done with him...and hang up on him...

And even though you thought you made it clear you weren't ever coming back, the ******* calls you to tell you that you've been terminated, completely ignoring the fact that you screamed at him on the phone until you were blue in the face and quit. Though that is kind of a mixed blessing being as though I used that to draw unemployment...although the black eye is a bitch...

...oh, and a week later, the hospital hired a woman that is friends with that group of people that railroaded me. She just happened to be looking for a job. 🙄

Now...I probably shouldn't have done that and acted professional in the face of those idiots... definitely a lesson learned. Don't hand them a reason to get rid of you gift wrapped with a bow on it.

Good times. I've been looking for a job for months. Everyone at my old hospital except for the 3 *******s that didn't like me all told me to use them as references (everyone from the buyer to the techs to the other pharmacists) and have been feeding me job leads. None have panned out being as though that area is ungodly saturated...but I do appreciate it.

I'm thinking about going back to retail. I'm sick of these pretentious ****s that take offense to someone that disagrees with them. And they are in every hospital...everywhere. At least in retail, it's blue collar people...doing a blue collar job....my type of people.

I like the people that do retail soooo much more...but I like the work of hospital. Kind of a conundrum, eh?
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consider long term care my friend, and no, its much more than just "scanning boxes"
 
DrPepsi said:
By the way, are you currently working?
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No, I'm not, and I haven't since the end of March. Maybe I already said this, but if I wanted to do retail, I could have had a job the next day, but I have enough savings to last me several YEARS and I'm not that desperate.
 
DrPepsi said:
2) There is something HUGE missing from this story. Corporate America isn't very smart but there is no way they would fire someone without reason like this.
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No necessarily. It depends on the state. Texass is an at will state. That means they can fire you for any reason they want. Hell in Texass they could have brought the OP in and said "hey you do an okay job but my relative needs a job so we are letting you go." In Texas as the fired employee there is nothing you could do about it.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Those in the original coal unions were some of the ballsiest, bravest Americans that have ever lived.

Just look up the Battle of Blair Mountain. They fought against the ****ing US military to get better working conditions. I'm not talking silent protest...I mean, they literally got guns and had a mini-war with the US Army. Sid Hatfield and the boys. True American heroes. Why that **** isn't more well known is beyond me.
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Do not forget the gold miners in Colorado. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Labor_Wars

All of them had balls. It is sad there was a peiod of time in this counrtry you had to pick up a gun and be willing to die to get the right to have a safe work envirioment.
 
MountainPharmD said:
No necessarily. It depends on the state. Texass is an at will state. That means they can fire you for any reason they want. Hell in Texass they could have brought the OP in and said "hey you do an okay job but my relative needs a job so we are letting you go." In Texas as the fired employee there is nothing you could do about it.
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many states are like this. only a handful are not work at will. it sucks but that is the reality. hospital is different though because they must follow protocols and hospital policies when terminating employees. by not following policy they are at risk because then the terminated employee can show unjust cause and possible targetting and discrimination and sue.
 
MountainPharmD said:
No necessarily. It depends on the state. Texass is an at will state. That means they can fire you for any reason they want. Hell in Texass they could have brought the OP in and said "hey you do an okay job but my relative needs a job so we are letting you go." In Texas as the fired employee there is nothing you could do about it.
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Bro,

Are you out of your mind? Stop hanging around with uninformed employees who say "yeah..they can fire you for whatever the reason they want because we're an at will state!!"

That's not what it means. Texas actually recognizes public policy exceptions which means an employer can not terminate an employee while violating the Federal anti-discrimination statutes among other reasons based upon 6 or 7 different employment acts.

Also, a Texas employer can not terminate an employee while violating the employment contract with an employee (and I hope you have a contract) which is usually based upon employment policies and procedures.

I highly recommend ask your HR to give you an employee handbook that outlines what can lead to termination.
 
PharmaTope said:
many states are like this. only a handful are not work at will. it sucks but that is the reality. hospital is different though because they must follow protocols and hospital policies when terminating employees. by not following policy they are at risk because then the terminated employee can show unjust cause and possible targetting and discrimination and sue.
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Only true at will states are Louisiana, Rhode Island, and Georgia. And even then, employers in those states can't violate the federal employment statutes nor can they breach employment contract. You protect yourself by knowing what your employer's policy states... and don't violate the policy.
 
Its Z said:
Bro,

Are you out of your mind? Stop hanging around with uninformed employees who say "yeah..they can fire you for whatever the reason they want because we're an at will state!!"
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Obviously I am not talking about a violation of any federal statutes relating to discrimination and such. Yes, I am aware that big corporations have policies and procedures as well as cond of conducts set up. I am simply talking about Texas being an employment at will state. Outside of your companies policies and procedures you can be fired for any reason fair or unfair in an employment at will state. If you read nearly any policy and proceure manual it says any violation of the policies can result in disiplinary action up to and including termination. I have written policy and procedure manuals and have specifically put this in there.

http://www.twc.state.tx.us/news/efte/pay_and_policies_general.html

Pay and Policies - General
the basic rule of Texas employment law is employment at will, which applies to all phases of the employment relationship - it means that absent a statute or an express agreement (such as an employment contract) to the contrary, either party in an employment relationship may modify any of the terms or conditions of employment, or terminate the relationship altogether, for any reason, or no particular reason at all, with or without advance notice

exceptions: other than statutes and express agreements, the only significant exception to employment at will is the "public policy" exception, i.e., no termination or adverse job action against an employee in retaliation for the employee having refused to commit a criminal act on the employer's behalf

thus, in an employment at will state, and to a lesser extent in other states, employers may develop and change personnel policies, reassign employees, and change such things as work locations, schedules, job titles, job descriptions, pay, and other aspects of jobs at will

Texas is also a right to work state - under the Texas right to work laws (§§101.052-.053, Texas Labor Code), employment may not be conditioned or denied on the basis of membership or non-membership in a union

in almost any kind of employment claim or lawsuit, it will help to be able to point to clear written policies and to state that employees are notified of the standards to which they will be held

secret policies are useless – employees should of course have access to whatever policies will apply to them - an unknown policy cannot be used against an ex-employee in an unemployment claim or any other kind of employment-related claim or lawsuit
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yup so what does your company policy say?
 
Its Z said:
yup so what does your company policy say?
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my company HR people looked at me funny when i wanted detailed info on sick time etc. it isnt in their "handbook" but there are policies yet nobody could furnish me with copies of these policies.

wtf is up with that? i said well how many days of being sick would i need documentation of an illness without it being an incident? they couldnt provide anything written.


any idea's Its Z?
 
pharmatope said:
my company hr people looked at me funny when i wanted detailed info on sick time etc. It isnt in their "handbook" but there are policies yet nobody could furnish me with copies of these policies.

Wtf is up with that? I said well how many days of being sick would i need documentation of an illness without it being an incident? They couldnt provide anything written.
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bs
 
Its Z said:
yup so what does your company policy say?
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Exactly that. I have worked for three retail companies in three states and it has been the same with all three. All three states are at will work states. The policies and procedure manual for all three stated any violation could result in disciplinary action up to and including termination. Here is a cut and paste from the job offer I signed with Safeway:

Please sign below the statement of understanding to indicate your decision. Fax a copy to (214) xxx-xxxx by 6/15/2007 and reture the original document to me. If the docunent is not signed, dated and returned by the specific date, this offer of employment is withdrawn. Upon receipt, this offer will be considered confirmed.

Congratulations! If you have any questions, please contact me a (214) xxx-xxxx.

Sincerely,

XXX XXXX R.Ph.
Pharmacy Recruiter
Randells/Tom Thumb Pharmacy

I understand Safeway's policy that employment is "at will" and for no specific term and that the employment relationship may be terminated by either part at any time.

Signature_____________ Print name___________ Date ____________
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Kroger was the same way and so was Walgreens. I signed very simlar offer letters from them. Mind you this is the offer of employment letter stating employment is at will. You also sign some sort of letter or statement saying you have been furnished a copy of the emploee hand book including all policies and procedures and you have read and understand them.
 
Its Z said:
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i am 100% not kidding. i went there twice about it, i have the handbook. the information on sick time and sick leave does not indicate information about number of days before it is an incident and where medical documentation is necessary. when i asked for this to be clarified, i was presented wtih "what are you planning to get sick"

i said no, i just wnt to know all the policies and procedures here. they would only verbalize info on the usage of sick time but would not furnish any copy of said policy.
 
owlegrad said:
Before unions, coal miners made six figures in a well-light, air-conditioned environment, where the worst thing that happens most days is the phone keeps ringing while you are trying to help the people in the store/drive-thru?

Worst union ever! Behind the UAW, of course.
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Gosh, I wish I could be 11 again and have all the answers to problems of life , work and everything else with never having experienced them. 😀
 
MountainPharmD said:
I understand Safeway's policy that employment is "at will" and for no specific term and that the employment relationship may be terminated by either part at any time.
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Dude,

That doesn't say you can be terminated without a reason and at the same time it does not bound you to an indentured labor slavery! Of course unless you had other employment contract terms.

Heck, imagine if the contract stated that employment relationship can not be terminated unless agreed by both parties? So you get a better job but they won't release you... not a good thing. So, At Will State..it goes both ways.

Now, how often do you see an employee get terminated for no reason? Just one day...you walk in... boss says "you're fired... no reason..."

That's not a typical company policy or practice. It's a neurotic a-hole supervisor's doing.
 
Its Z said:
Dude,

That doesn't say you can be terminated without a reason and at the same time it does not bound you to an indentured labor slavery! Of course unless you had other employment contract terms.

Heck, imagine if the contract stated that employment relationship can not be terminated unless agreed by both parties? So you get a better job but they won't release you... not a good thing. So, At Will State..it goes both ways.

Now, how often do you see an employee get terminated for no reason? Just one day...you walk in... boss says "you're fired... no reason..."

That's not a typical company policy or practice. It's a neurotic a-hole supervisor's doing.
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I do not disagree at all. I merely stated in an at will state you have little recourse if you think you have been unfairly terminated. As long as the termination was not for discriminatory reasons and it followed the companies own written policies and procedures you are out of luck.

How often is someone terminated for no reason? I would guess not often. However, in an at will state you have no legal recourse if you are terminated for what you feel is no reason.

I started this tangent by stating to the OP if they worked in an at will state their employer could have fired them for any or no reason at all. Which is true.
 
Old said:
This type of situation is what I have been seeing. Totally subjective. Administration can use any reason to terminate you if they want to. You can be better than most but they decided to replace you. They overlook mistakes and performance issues of others when they will pick you out for termination. In siutations I have seen the people terminating people are not pharmacists and have no idea what we do. Some have never even worked in a pharmacy.

There is a retired member on this forum that says the HR is there to help you. Perhaps you should go to them and they would prevent your termination and probably terminate those above you. (sorry I couldn't resist)😀

I have never worked under a union and I am aware of the good and bad of them but I am really starting to think that it is the best thing for the profession.

The one thing I encourage pharms or anyone working to do is to keep a personal journal at home on your computer. Everyday record the events that occured. Things such as an error someone made(small or major), someone coming in late, leaving early, not doing things when they should do when they should. Favortism shown to them as far as scheduling or anything that is not as it should be. You will be surprised how fast the journal will grow. Just keep it to yourself since you may never need it. However, in a situation like this you have documented information that will protect you from termination or at least give you the ammunition for a lawsuit or unemployment compensation.

Good luck.
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thanks for the tips
 
I saw two former co-workers (a pharmacist and a tech) yesterday, and both of them said they also figured out exactly what was going on themselves. The pharmacist told me that I did not want to work at the store with the job opening, but other people had already told me that too.
 
rph3664 said:
I saw two former co-workers (a pharmacist and a tech) yesterday, and both of them said they also figured out exactly what was going on themselves. The pharmacist told me that I did not want to work at the store with the job opening, but other people had already told me that too.
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wha?
 
Its Z said:
wha?
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Z, every time I see you post, I think of this
6ktb7b


You ever taken it to the track?
 
lmao! no i wont track it...also i think they require roll bar which i dont have. but ur right...rear heavy car oversteers
 
Its Z said:
wha?
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There's a retail job opening, 20 hours a week with full bennies from day one.

And no, I do not want to work there even if I wanted to do retail, which I don't.
 
rph3664 said:
There's a retail job opening, 20 hours a week with full bennies from day one.

And no, I do not want to work there even if I wanted to do retail, which I don't.
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what's the pay?
 
FruitFly said:
$24,000 loan payback for 3 years is wack. Not worth the commitment.
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The money was loaned to him by the hospital. I don't know what kind of interest they charged if he didn't come and work there.
 
I signed up a while back with a temp agency/placement service, and all the jobs within 200 miles are retail except for one.

My former employer.

+pity+ :whistle: :shrug:
 
rph3664 said:
I signed up a while back with a temp agency/placement service, and all the jobs within 200 miles are retail except for one.

My former employer.

+pity+ :whistle: :shrug:
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ugh!!!! pharmacy wtf happened to you!
 
I do know that one of the other pharmacists transferred to another department. It was a job that would be about 50/50 informatics and staff pharmacist. That's the only thing I can think of.

The whole thing is :bullcrap:.
 
rph3664 said:
I do know that one of the other pharmacists transferred to another department. It was a job that would be about 50/50 informatics and staff pharmacist. That's the only thing I can think of.

The whole thing is :bullcrap:.
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ever consider more schooling?
 
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