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Hello everyone,

Searching online, I found so many consulting firms and licensing agencies that can help with US state licensure and hospital credentialing applications. However, all of them are tailored to US-based doctors. I and my partner (who is a GP) are moving to the US and need to work with someone who is knowledgeable in working with UK GPs/ABFM reciprocity pathway. The paperwork is complex and confusing, and we do not want to get a rejected application with ABFM or state board because of missing something stupid.

Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

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I found this post on Quora, and it looks like the answer is what you need

 
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I contacted them and they are amazing; physician owned and run company! Thanks a lot for the referral.
 
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I contacted them and they are amazing; physician owned and run company! Thanks a lot for the referral.
Hey BlackDuck, looking into this myself. I'm a UK based GP. How are you getting on?
 
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Hey BlackDuck, looking into this myself. I'm a UK based GP. How are you getting on?
Slowly but steadily getting there. Bothersome process but much better than dealing with peanut NHS pay for the rest of my life!
 
@BlackDuck congratulations! I'm in GP training and looking to move just like you after my CCT. Please how did get round immigration? Did you need to get a fellowship? Also were you able to apply for a state licence from here in the UK? I suppose one can't do the ABFM until they have moved but would a geriatric fellowship, for example, count as "family medicine" experience for ABFM reciprocity purposes? Sorry about the multiple questions
Licensed, board certified, and finally practicing!
 
Greetings, everyone,

I must offer my sincerest apologies for the tardiness of my response. The journey commences with selecting a reciprocity pathway to sidestep residency, undertaking the USMLE examinations, petitioning relevant licensing authorities, securing a job offer, all while juggling the complexities of immigration paperwork. The entire process spanned roughly a year and was rather taxing, yet undeniably worthwhile, particularly when considering its enduring benefits in terms of financial reward and the maintenance of a harmonious work-life equilibrium.

Undoubtedly, there were two main hurdles along the way: conquering USMLE Step 1 and navigating the labyrinthine realm of paperwork.

1. The trials of USMLE Step 1 proved vexatious indeed, necessitating a revisit to the fundamentals of basic science. Personally, the prospect of delving back into the depths of biochemistry filled me with a sense of trepidation, yet with steadfast determination, I managed to prevail. Step 2 and 3, by comparison, proved relatively straightforward for a General Practitioner; the AKT was much harder than both.

2. Wrestling with paperwork felt akin to engaging in a high-stakes game of three-dimensional chess, replete with its intricate complexities, plethora of unfamiliar licensing terminology, and pressing time constraints. Thankfully, resources such as the "Road to USA" website shared by Elementa proved to be invaluable lifesavers. They offer comprehensive elucidation of the entire process on their MRCGP to USA page, should one opt for a self-guided approach. Nevertheless, upon deeper reflection, I found solace in enlisting the expertise of their consultants to shepherd me through this intricate process, safeguarding against potential pitfalls, given the substantial financial and emotional investment at stake.

Reflecting on the transition, I find myself attending to a diminished patient load, yet reaping greater financial rewards and enjoying a lighter tax burden compared to my previous tenure in the UK. Residing on the East Coast has afforded numerous opportunities, with our family embarking on five jaunts to Europe in the past year alone. Gone are the days of tending to a relentless stream of 20 patients per session, as I now attend to a more manageable 10. Financially, I now earn approximately 230K per annum, whilst shouldering a significantly lesser tax burden compared to the UK. Housing costs per square foot are markedly more affordable here, and my son benefits from attending an esteemed British school. Nestled in the suburbs of a bustling metropolis, we relish in a plethora of social and cultural events. Whilst I could have opted for a more lucrative position in a smaller locale, I recognized the potential challenges such a move might pose for an immigrant family. Although the initial settling period was fraught with challenges, we have since found our footing and are relishing in our newfound sense of contentment.

Here's to smoother seas ahead!
 
Hi, thank you for your response. I have completed usmle steps 1,2 and 3 and I have a US greencard. I am getting my RCGP CCT in May. Which state were you able to get a license in?
 
Hi, thank you for your response. I have completed usmle steps 1,2 and 3 and I have a US greencard. I am getting my RCGP CCT in May. Which state were you able to get a license in?
Maine, North Carolina, and Georgia
 
Obviously you’d have to get the license before approaching employers—-Were the employers readily accepting uk trained drs?
Can we talk a bit more about how long the process took from start to finish?
 
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I really want to be near Miami as I have a lot of family there and spent a lot of my time there where I was younger.
I was considering getting the license in Maine and then working for the VA in Florida but not sure if they’d readily employ me even with the Maine license. Also the salary might be less and i might get a hospital job which I don’t want .
Please advise.
 
You have to get Maine license first to use it for ABFM reciprocity. Then you can apply for other state licenses. The whole process took about a year.
 
did you have to sit the ABFM exam?
So the other states you mentioned granted you the license based on having ABFM status even though you didn’t have US postgrad residency training?
 
Yes, I had to sit the ABFM. It is very similar to the AKT.
 
Was it difficult to find a job after state licensing as employers knew you weren’t US trained?
 
Was it difficult to find a job after state licensing as employers knew you weren’t US trained?
I cannot judge how hard it was to be honest. I hired a consultancy firm that streamlined the entire process for me from pathway eligibility, licensing paperwork, job selection/application, and everything in between. All I needed to do is to provide documents, do tests on time, pay fees, and wait for next steps.
 
Did you work in Maine whilst doing the ABFM to and waiting to get licenses in other states?
 
Florida is where I want to be. I wonder if this pathway will make me eligible for a Florida state license
 
@BlackDuck Many thanks for your guidance on certifying as Family Medicine is the US. Could you please mention how much does the agency charge for the entire process.
 
Greetings, everyone,

I must offer my sincerest apologies for the tardiness of my response. The journey commences with selecting a reciprocity pathway to sidestep residency, undertaking the USMLE examinations, petitioning relevant licensing authorities, securing a job offer, all while juggling the complexities of immigration paperwork. The entire process spanned roughly a year and was rather taxing, yet undeniably worthwhile, particularly when considering its enduring benefits in terms of financial reward and the maintenance of a harmonious work-life equilibrium.

Undoubtedly, there were two main hurdles along the way: conquering USMLE Step 1 and navigating the labyrinthine realm of paperwork.

1. The trials of USMLE Step 1 proved vexatious indeed, necessitating a revisit to the fundamentals of basic science. Personally, the prospect of delving back into the depths of biochemistry filled me with a sense of trepidation, yet with steadfast determination, I managed to prevail. Step 2 and 3, by comparison, proved relatively straightforward for a General Practitioner; the AKT was much harder than both.

2. Wrestling with paperwork felt akin to engaging in a high-stakes game of three-dimensional chess, replete with its intricate complexities, plethora of unfamiliar licensing terminology, and pressing time constraints. Thankfully, resources such as the "Road to USA" website shared by Elementa proved to be invaluable lifesavers. They offer comprehensive elucidation of the entire process on their MRCGP to USA page, should one opt for a self-guided approach. Nevertheless, upon deeper reflection, I found solace in enlisting the expertise of their consultants to shepherd me through this intricate process, safeguarding against potential pitfalls, given the substantial financial and emotional investment at stake.

Reflecting on the transition, I find myself attending to a diminished patient load, yet reaping greater financial rewards and enjoying a lighter tax burden compared to my previous tenure in the UK. Residing on the East Coast has afforded numerous opportunities, with our family embarking on five jaunts to Europe in the past year alone. Gone are the days of tending to a relentless stream of 20 patients per session, as I now attend to a more manageable 10. Financially, I now earn approximately 230K per annum, whilst shouldering a significantly lesser tax burden compared to the UK. Housing costs per square foot are markedly more affordable here, and my son benefits from attending an esteemed British school. Nestled in the suburbs of a bustling metropolis, we relish in a plethora of social and cultural events. Whilst I could have opted for a more lucrative position in a smaller locale, I recognized the potential challenges such a move might pose for an immigrant family. Although the initial settling period was fraught with challenges, we have since found our footing and are relishing in our newfound sense of contentment.

Here's to smoother seas ahead!
Please did you need a green card to start the process
 
@BlackDuck thank you very much for sharing your experience! I'm also hoping to move to the US through the reciprocacy route and currently preparing for USLME step 1. I'd be grateful if you could provide a bit more clarification on the following:
1. When is the best time to seek the help of an agency - before or after passing the exams?
2. Could you clarify what visa did you go on or did you get a green card?
3. Did you do fellowship?
4. Registration in other states than Main-how does it work? is residency not needed to get a license in other states? In which other states can a license be obtained?
5. How does the day to day work compare to the UK (apart from less patients per session) and did you adapt quickly to the system?
6. How did you confirm the legitimacy of the agency mentioned above?
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
 
@BlackDuck thank you very much for sharing your experience! I'm also hoping to move to the US through the reciprocacy route and currently preparing for USLME step 1. I'd be grateful if you could provide a bit more clarification on the following:
1. When is the best time to seek the help of an agency - before or after passing the exams?
2. Could you clarify what visa did you go on or did you get a green card?
3. Did you do fellowship?
4. Registration in other states than Main-how does it work? is residency not needed to get a license in other states? In which other states can a license be obtained?
5. How does the day to day work compare to the UK (apart from less patients per session) and did you adapt quickly to the system?
6. How did you confirm the legitimacy of the agency mentioned above?
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
1. When is the best time to seek the help of an agency - before or after passing the exams?
Initiating discussions with the agency prior to completing my USMLE Steps proved invaluable. Although they couldn't proceed until those were finished, early engagement enabled me to grasp the procedural intricacies, organize essential documents in advance, and establish realistic expectations regarding the timeline.

2. Could you clarify what visa did you go on or did you get a green card?
Green Card.

3. Did you pursue a fellowship?
Yes, I did.

4. Registration in states other than Maine — how does it work? Is residency a prerequisite for obtaining a license in other states? In which other states can a license be obtained?
I currently practice outside Maine. Licensing regulations evolve continually, but the agency adeptly guided me through the process, identifying eligible states for application and staying updated on any legal changes.

5. How does the day-to-day work compare to the UK (besides seeing fewer patients per session), and did you adapt quickly to the system?
While the medical science remains consistent, the operational dynamics vary notably, particularly concerning insurance management. Patients exhibit greater autonomy and frequently request specialist referrals. Numerous published articles dissect the contrasting healthcare setups between the US and the UK.

6. How did you verify the legitimacy of the aforementioned agency?
A referral by a friend led me to this physician-owned family business, fostering immediate rapport as I interacted with someone who had trodden the same path. Additionally, I conducted online research to confirm their licensure and professional standing. As with any service, exploring the plethora of companies offering US medical licensing assistance, each with distinct service models and fee structures, is advisable.

Best of luck!
 
Thank you for your reply . Please how were you able to secure a fellowship position. I am looking online but all of them need US residency.
 
Thank you for your reply . Please how were you able to secure a fellowship position. I am looking online but all of them need US residency.
The agency I enlisted possessed a roster of fellowship programs accommodating International Medical Graduates (IMGs) without requiring US residency. They crafted and submitted applications on my behalf. Consequently, I received several interview invitations, leading to my selection for a program outside the usual application cycle.
 
The agency I enlisted possessed a roster of fellowship programs accommodating International Medical Graduates (IMGs) without requiring US residency. They crafted and submitted applications on my behalf. Consequently, I received several interview invitations, leading to my selection for a program outside the usual application cycle.
Thank you . Please which agency did you use . I have started looking into it .
 
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