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Hey Guys,

I'm opening this as a general thread for the 2008 BM PMPB.

Last night, I received an email inviting me to come interview. In the message, they said that regardless of when you interview, the final decisions aren't made until the end of February.

How many of you guys have already interviewed? And of you, please share your thoughts, concerns, advice, etc...

Thanks!!
Gator
 
Last night, I received an email inviting me to come interview. In the message, they said that regardless of when you interview, the final decisions aren't made until the end of February.

Congrats on getting an interview. I interviewed a few weeks ago ... Hopefully we'll see each other in PA this spring.

The one thing is, at our interview, they told us that we should hear definitively by Dec. 21st. (Someone else on this board confirmed that, and also said that a friend who interviewed a bit earlier had already been informed of acceptance.) So, I think final decisions are made on a rolling basis ...

Good luck (to both of us -- haha) ...
 
Hi fellow BM hopefuls:

How long did it take for you between submitting your apps and hearing back re: interview?

Thanks in advance.
 
I don't really know when my application was submitted (i'm abroad and my mom had to take care of it for me), but I am pretty sure I heard with in two weeks if I had an interview. Mine was a phone interview and was actually really easy--all the questions were the basic "tell me about yourself, why do you want to be a doctor, etc". Mary Beth was very warm and friendly. But (as I mentioned in another blog) I didn't interview too well, even though I am usually a good interviewer. Doing it over the phone was hard, let alone all the other distractions of my life (keeping the fire going to keep warm, electricity, night time, etc). None of these are excuses, but my advice to anyone doing a phone interview, try to make yourself as comfortable as possible!!! I was told that I would hear back by the 21st. And as I mentioned in another blog, another PC volunteer interviewed a week or so before me and they specifically told him with in two weeks and he did find out with in two weeks. So I figure for the group of us who have already interviewed, we should know something soon. Good luck to everyone!
 
I thought the acceptances were rolling as well. In the email message I received, it said that despite when you interview, the committee won't meet until the end of February. Maybe they do it in two waves. For example, in the message it said that I couldn't interview until January or early Feb. So maybe the folks they interview in the Fall find out in December and those in Jan/Feb find out then. Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. Its a real privelage for me to get this invitation and I'm really looking forward to it. I'll be there on January 30.

Thanks for the nice words and congrats to everyone else. BTW, it was about 2 weeks between the time I sent my package and got the invitation.

I look forward to hearing about your progress.

Best,
Gator

Oh yeah, go TEBOW! 😀
 
if you all wouldn't mind sharing, what are some of your stats? i'm thinking of applying to BM next year and i just want to get an idea of the types of applicants they interview. 🙂

:luck: to you all in the process!
 
if you all wouldn't mind sharing, what are some of your stats? i'm thinking of applying to BM next year and i just want to get an idea of the types of applicants they interview. 🙂

:luck: to you all in the process!

I think there's a pretty decent range. When I applied to postbacs I interviewed and got into all the top ones with ~3.4 UG and 1600/36. I think most matriculants have somewhat higher GPAs (3.6-3.7 seems about average) and somewhat lower test scores (1350-1500 seems about average for Scripps, Goucher, BM)
 
Hi everyone. My stats are below (for what they're worth):

SCHOOL: BS (3.95) , MS (3.9), and PhD (3.95) in Math from the University of Florida. I had a phenomenal advisor in grad school which helped me to publish 20+ papers in refereed journals and books (all first author), several talks, etc...

ECs: Over 150 hours as ER volunteer and over 60 hours shadowing a family med physician.

WORK: 5 years with USAF.

That being said, I received a rejection letter from Goucher on Monday (that is, I didn't get an interview). I don't take my good fortunes as a grad student for granted. I'm very grateful for the chance to interview at BM. It is an honor just to get the invitation.

So to sum things up, I don't know what Goucher is looking for, but ``I ain't it"! Good luck to everybody and please pass on any advice for the upcoming BM interview.

Best, 🙂
Gator
 
I'm astonished that you got rejected from Goucher. With that said, also apply to Scripps (they also have a pretty much 100% placement rate with some good linkages).
 
I'm astonished that you got rejected from Goucher. With that said, also apply to Scripps (they also have a pretty much 100% placement rate with some good linkages).

The top postbac programs are more competitive than medical schools. Last year we rejected people with 3.9 GPA that did undergrad and graduate school at top Ivy's, I imagine for qualitative reasons.
 
Just heard from BM that I got in ... Yay.

(Particularly good for me since I hadn't applied elsewhere.)

Jodi called a little while ago ... Surprised to hear from her on a Sunday evening, but certainly happy!

Anyone else heard/coming?
 
I also just got a call from Jodi. The admissions committee met on Friday and Jodi wanted to let people know just in case the mail is slow with the holidays. I am trying to decide between Goucher and Bryn Mawr. It is quite a nice position to be in. Good luck to others.
 
I just got my acceptance letter as well. Guess my interview was better than I thought. When are people starting? I get done with Peace Corps in May and was thinking about going straight into the program, but I may want some time off after this adventure. As for the previous post, I know there has been some Goucher blogs, so I'd do my research. I know they are both top programs and congrats for your acceptance into both.
 
Can we make this thread a "sticky"?
 
Hi guys--

I was accepted to Bryn Mawr '08-'09 in early November, so I didn't have the benefit of this forum! Glad to see I'm not alone; I was starting to think I'd be the only one in the program. Since there were a lot of questions flying around, I figured I'd offer some advice that I would have found helpful a few months ago:

Timeline:

-Was offered an interview 9 days after mailing in my application; got an email and confirmed with Leslie at the program (nicest woman alive)
-Interviewed on November 5th and was accepted on November 15th; got a phone call from Jodi and then received an offical letter with enrollment forms one week after that (after Thanksgiving)
-Summary: They are very quick at Bryn Mawr; if they want you, they'll let you know fast, since they know they're competing for top talent with Scripps and especially Goucher

My Stats:

-3.48 from William & Mary (2007) (Probably lower than y'alls', but Mary Beth, when interviewing me, said: "Oh wow, there's definitely no grade inflation at that school -- really hard place to be, academically")
-1450 SAT - much higher verbal than math
-Majored in International Relations, with a minor in Chinese Language/Literature
-Registered EMT-B, just starting to volunteer with a fire company in Washington, D.C., so only had a few hours when I interviewed
-Volunteering at Georgetown University Hospital one night per week (had only been doing it 2 months when I interviewed)
-Worked as a bike medic for my college's cycling team
-Studied/taught American culture classes in China on a scholarship; speak Chinese pretty well
-Working currently as a clinical trials manager for NIH projects (health related, technically, but I basically just do administrative work and have no contact with the actual science or the patients)

Things I thought would keep me out of Bryn Mawr, but didn't:

-Got Bs in my two main college science classes (took them both freshman year, so maybe they forgave it)
-Hadn't been volunteering very long
-Fresh out of college/no grad degree
-My college is slightly less prestigious than the Ivy League or the elite liberal arts schools that normally popular Bryn Mawr Postbac

Things that may have helped:

-Very good writer; had an excellent personal statement which focused on the social problems inherent in modern medicine, as well as my experience in Chinese hospitals (not volunteering -- me getting horribly ill and needing to be hospitalized)
-Mary Beth knew and admired my college
-Made it clear in the interview I wasn't getting into medicine for the money and I cared as much about medicine's social implications as its scientific ones
-Asked Mary Beth lots of tough questions in the interview; she enjoys being challenged (also one of the nicest women alive)

Any questions you have, I'll be here -- just throw 'em up. Also, I grew up only about 5 miles from Bryn Mawr, so if anyone needs housing/living advice, I'd be happy to give you some tips. Best of luck to you all.
 
Congrats to everybody who has been accepted for next year--and good luck to those waiting to hear! I'm currently a post bac at BM so if anybody has any questions about the program or life on the main line, I'll do my best to answer. And, if you're a Vikings fan, I'll shower you with sweet nothings too...
 
Indeed. Go Vikes. And Wild and Twins.
 
Congrats to everybody who has been accepted for next year--and good luck to those waiting to hear! I'm currently a post bac at BM so if anybody has any questions about the program or life on the main line, I'll do my best to answer. And, if you're a Vikings fan, I'll shower you with sweet nothings too...

A few questions ...

What is housing like? How difficult is it to get a house? Do people tend to live w/people they don't know previously, and how does that work out? Along those lines, how many people have cars? Do you find a car is necessary/preferable?

How do you find the pre-med advising (the main reason I would choose the program)? On a board from a few years ago (last year?) people mentioned Jodi had particular favorites that gave she gave preference to (particularly for linkages) ... Do you find that to be the case? And is the linkage system really opaque? How helpful is Jodi in terms of choosing whether/where to link, and then putting together other apps?

How do you find competition between postbacs? Is it a supportive environment? How competitive is it (not only in terms of grades -- I understand classes are not curved between postbacs -- but based on a spirit of competition/group study/etc.)? What sort of grades do postbacs tend to get, or is it a true spread?

What are the social dynamics like? How much time do you spend studying -- I'm sure that varies, but I would assume that during the year it is pretty constant ...? Do people go out in Philadelphia on the weekends, or not really, due to schoolwork (or anything else?) What is the male/female breakdown of the program? Is the group cliquish/all friends/etc? (I would assume there is a sleepaway camp sort of "dating" scene, complicated by the existence of the all-female undergrad population, but who knows ...)

How many postbacs are planning on taking independent review courses separate from the rather piecemeal one offered at BM?

Blah ... Sorry there are so many. I guess answer what you choose, and ignore the rest. And thanks for the info ... (I'm a Philly team fan, so I no sweet nothings for me.)

Deely
 
'righty then, here goes...


What is housing like? How difficult is it to get a house? Do people tend to live w/people they don't know previously, and how does that work out? Along those lines, how many people have cars? Do you find a car is necessary/preferable?


The options are pretty limitless--people live in houses (postbacs group together and rent), with families in the area, or live in apartments (this is by far the most common). While there some who live in Philly, I would say the vast majority of postbacs live within a 10 minute drive of campus. In the spring before you start, you'll be given a lot of info on housing around here and they set up an online forum to meet up with others in your class to find roomtes if you're looking for one. Given that traffic is pretty congested along the Main Line, and SETPA is pretty darn expensive, I think it makes sense to live close to campus. Having a car is quite helpful and most do, but I would not call it a necessity as the basics (banks, coffee shops, bars, foodstore or two, etc) are within walking distance...there is also a SEPTA stop about 30 seconds from campus to get to philly and the airport.


How do you find the pre-med advising (the main reason I would choose the program)? On a board from a few years ago (last year?) people mentioned Jodi had particular favorites that gave she gave preference to (particularly for linkages) ... Do you find that to be the case? And is the linkage system really opaque? How helpful is Jodi in terms of choosing whether/where to link, and then putting together other apps?


I find the advising here to be excellent (it's the primary reason I chose BM). I have not noticed Jodi playing favorites, and honestly cannot imagine her doing so. She wants us all to go to the med school of our choice--period. Jodi and the office staff is VERY helpful for applying to med school (via linkage or the standard route). I'm not quite sure what you mean by the link system being "opaque," but you'll be well informed of how things work when you're here.


How do you find competition between postbacs? Is it a supportive environment? How competitive is it (not only in terms of grades -- I understand classes are not curved between postbacs -- but based on a spirit of competition/group study/etc.)? What sort of grades do postbacs tend to get, or is it a true spread?


I would say the environment here is generally VERY supportive--in the last 8 days (finals), I witnessed more note-swapping than I ever saw as an undergrad. When you get any motivated, smart group of people together, there will always be a few who feel like they are in competition with everybody else, but this is more the exception than the rule here. As for grades, I really don't know what other people get...we do our best not to talk about them as it makes life a lot easier/less stressful (hard to imagine now, but it will feel great when you're here). But, as far as I know, it's totally possible for everybody to get an As in classes here--you'll work very hard though 😀.

What are the social dynamics like? How much time do you spend studying -- I'm sure that varies, but I would assume that during the year it is pretty constant ...? Do people go out in Philadelphia on the weekends, or not really, due to schoolwork (or anything else?) What is the male/female breakdown of the program? Is the group cliquish/all friends/etc? (I would assume there is a sleepaway camp sort of "dating" scene, complicated by the existence of the all-female undergrad population, but who knows ...)

You're going to study. You're going to study a lot. You will spend a lot of time studying. With that in mind, our group is a pretty social bunch--we have our own IM sports teams, hit the main line (and philly) together, and have parties fairly often (obviously this is less common around tests). A balanced life is encouraged, and I would say the majority of people make it out one or two nights a week. Not 100% sure of the male/female ratio, but it feels around 50/50ish.

How many postbacs are planning on taking independent review courses separate from the rather piecemeal one offered at BM?

Not sure what you're askin' here, but I'm assuming you're talking MCAT and I'm not sure of the breakdown. They have a night where they present all the MCAT study options--they bring in people from Kaplan, EK, etc and present the in-house class option also--yet our program has no agenda on this and doesn't push any one program.


Blah ... Sorry there are so many. I guess answer what you choose, and ignore the rest. And thanks for the info ... (I'm a Philly team fan, so I no sweet nothings for me.)


actually i'm ok with the eagles...the 700 level is pretty charismatic.

hope this helps. feel free to fire any other questions.
 
I'm not quite sure what you mean by the link system being "opaque," but you'll be well informed of how things work when you're here.

Thanks so much for your answers ... Yeah, I'm not positive what I mean either ... (Was mainly referring to a post I got from searching the archives that I realize now, reading through to the end, was partly an anti-Bryn Mawr flame.)

Sounds good!

Also, how is physics for most people? (I remember at my interview hearing that Orgo is difficult as per its subject matter, but well taught and fairly tested.)

Again, thanks ...
 
So to sum things up, I don't know what Goucher is looking for, but ``I ain't it"!


Yeah, i got the rejection letter from them too. I don't think they like state schools, I went to UGA, I got similarish grades as you (no masters or phd though🙁) and I'm an Health RPCV from Madagascar. I guess that's just not enough.
 
This might be a stupid question, but can anyone tell me the appropriate attire for the BMC interview?
 
This might be a stupid question, but can anyone tell me the appropriate attire for the BMC interview?

Wear a suit. Formal business dress is not as completely mandatory as it is when you do med school interview, but wear a suit. Most everyone else in your interview group will be wearing one.
 
Type of interview questions?
 
Hey everyone,

Since I started this thread, I thought I would post an update on myself.

First of all, blackadder, THANK YOU for the excellent posts!

I interviewed on Feb 6, and got a call from Dr. Davis about a week later telling me I was accepted. They were very fast. I received the formal package in the mail the following week.

Everybody at BM, particularly in the PMPB office was very nice when I was there.

As for the interview, Dr. Davis asked me to just talk about myself and tell the story of how I got to BM, starting with why I went to the undergrad/grad schools I attended and why I chose my major, etc. It was very informal, and realxed.

Let me know if you guys have any specific questions. Oh yeah, wear a suit.

Best,
Gator
 
Type of interview questions?

Informal. You can talk about whatever you want. I talked about racquetball for like 10 minutes; it was completely unneccesary. She'll ask you the expected questions, regarding how you became passionate about your "first" career direction/college major and how you transitioned to an interest in medicine. You'll also be asked about your extracurriculars. Mary Beth is a wonderful woman; quiet, but extremely intelligent and very friendly.
 
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