B's on transcript = no med school?

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Hypothetically speaking, say a freshman pre-med gets mostly B's and a few A's. Will this one year of mediocre grades severely hurt their chances of getting into med school? Let's also say that this person ends up doing very well in their later college years and ends up with a high GPA (>3.7).What happens then? Do med schools go through each student's transcript with a fine-toothed comb, or are they more concerned with cGPA?

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There is way more to an application than B's your first semester.

3.7 is the average for US Med Schools. If your MCAT is also average and your application is well-rounded it doesn't matter.
 
Care to elaborate? Unfortunately I'm not a mind reader, so I have no idea what this means.

It means this he/she thinks this is a ridiculous question. I gave you a real, straight-forward answer, so don't focus on the people who didn't bother. Although the question is quite silly.
 
aggie answered your question but a quick anecdote:

i got a F in mind reading and a few B's my freshman year. im now a janitor at bob's taco shack
 
i got a F in mind reading and a few B's my freshman year. im now a janitor at bob's taco shack

I got rejected my first year, took Kaplan's review in mind-reading and BAM! I'm a med student.
 
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It means this he/she thinks this is a ridiculous question. I gave you a real, straight-forward answer, so don't focus on the people who didn't bother. Although the question is quite silly.
Well I figured I'd never know if I didn't ask. I don't know too much about med school, I just started undergrad 😕
 
Well I figured I'd never know if I didn't ask. I don't know too much about med school, I just started undergrad 😕

I think it's fine to ask, which is why I answered you. I'm just letting you know that people are now going to run with this and you should ignore them.
 
Like aggie said, you have nothing to worry about. Please please don't freak out about everything all 4 years of undergrad. Just be happy and do your best.
 
Like aggie said, you have nothing to worry about. Please please don't freak out about everything all 4 years of undergrad. Just be happy and do your best.

A healthy fear of doing poorly will keep you on your toes though. Use this as a learning experience. Your application to medical school is far from demolished.

Also, I'm not quite sure of the emphasis medical schools place on upward trends in grades, but I'm certain some of them at least notice them. In other words, a 3.25, 3.50, 4.00, 4.00 (3.69 cumulative) for each year of college looks better than 3.69, 3.69, 3.69, 3.69 [this assumes you apply after your senior year, the 3.69 student would probably beat the 3.58 end-of-junior year upward trend student based SOLELY on grades].
 
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OMGEEEE I got a couple of Cs... I'LL NEVER GET IN!!!! Good thing it was rock and roll history... and some lame business class...
 
don't worry OP bout your B. i thought the same thing my first semester of college when i got a B. just try working a little bit harder and aim for the A.
 
A healthy fear of doing poorly will keep you on your toes though. Use this as a learning experience. Your application to medical school is far from demolished.

Also, I'm not quite sure of the emphasis medical schools place on upward trends in grades, but I'm certain some of them at least notice them. In other words, a 3.25, 3.50, 4.00, 4.00 (3.69 cumulative) for each year of college looks better than 3.69, 3.69, 3.69, 3.69 [this assumes you apply after your senior year, the 3.69 student would probably beat the 3.58 end-of-junior year upward trend student based SOLELY on grades].
Hmmm....great advice. 👍
 
Chops, these B's won't hurt you unless they remain a pattern. You seem determined to have an upward trend and schools will definitely take note of that. Welcome to this site, don't worry about the ribbing answers you will get sometimes, it happens to us all.
But, to back up what you said, if you don't ask, then you won't know. Feel free to ask, having input from others is always a better situation to be in, you know, knowledge-wise.
 
You need to take some soma so you can stop clenching your butt cheeks so tightly.
 
Freshman year is EASILY the most difficult. You are fine.

that's opinion. freshmen difficulties can usually be attributed to under-developed study strategies. the subject matter is assuredly more difficult and/or more voluminous in upper division classes.
 
that's opinion. freshmen difficulties can usually be attributed to under-developed study strategies. the subject matter is assuredly more difficult and/or more voluminous in upper division classes.

👍 Yup.

Spring of Junior year was my toughest (hardest classes, lots of ECs, MCAT studying, first semester dating my now husband)....it's all dependent on your situation.
 
http://www.studentdoctor.net/wiki/index.php/The_Journey_to_Medical_School_--_Before_Applying

This article helped answer some of my basic questions.

Here's the GPA part:


1.11) How high does my GPA need to be?
Perhaps every premedical student has heard tales of the 3.9 GPA Phi
Beta Kappa applicant getting into every medical school he or she
applied to, and of the 2.5 GPA student applying to medical school
without a prayer, but there is a little more to the GPA issue than
just getting above a certain mark. GPAs will vary depending on the
competitiveness of your school, so if you attend a world-renowned
institution such as Harvard, your GPA will be calculated based on
competition with an intense student body.
If you attend Acme State University, where there is a major in
bartending, your GPA will be calculated based on competition with a
slightly less intense student body. Generally, however, a 2.3 at
Harvard is still pretty bad and probably not as good as a 4.0 at
Acme State, and we can guess that perhaps the Harvard student is not
going to get into medical school. So what are the generalities we
should look at when determining whether our GPAs are good enough for
medical school? Some premedical advisors say that if your GPA is
3.3 at a good school, you have a 20% chance for admission. Others
will say having a 3.5 to 3.6 is the requisite GPA, but if you keep
it as high as you can, you should have no problem (so try to keep it
above 3.3!).
 
http://www.studentdoctor.net/wiki/index.php/The_Journey_to_Medical_School_--_Before_Applying

This article helped answer some of my basic questions.

Here's the GPA part:


1.11) How high does my GPA need to be?
Perhaps every premedical student has heard tales of the 3.9 GPA Phi
Beta Kappa applicant getting into every medical school he or she
applied to, and of the 2.5 GPA student applying to medical school
without a prayer, but there is a little more to the GPA issue than
just getting above a certain mark. GPAs will vary depending on the
competitiveness of your school, so if you attend a world-renowned
institution such as Harvard, your GPA will be calculated based on
competition with an intense student body.
If you attend Acme State University, where there is a major in
bartending, your GPA will be calculated based on competition with a
slightly less intense student body. Generally, however, a 2.3 at
Harvard is still pretty bad and probably not as good as a 4.0 at
Acme State, and we can guess that perhaps the Harvard student is not
going to get into medical school. So what are the generalities we
should look at when determining whether our GPAs are good enough for
medical school? Some premedical advisors say that if your GPA is
3.3 at a good school, you have a 20% chance for admission. Others
will say having a 3.5 to 3.6 is the requisite GPA, but if you keep
it as high as you can, you should have no problem (so try to keep it
above 3.3!).

Um, this is generally good advice, but you're going to want way above a 3.3 if you want any wiggle room for the MCAT.
 
👍 Yup.

Spring of Junior year was my toughest (hardest classes, lots of ECs, MCAT studying, first semester dating my now husband)....it's all dependent on your situation.

yeah spring of junior year was bad. tough classes, ec's, mcat studying (but not really), and self-destructive female exposure. similar enough.
 
Would you want a Doc who averages a B in patient care or a B in bedside manner?

As stated by Floyd Mayweather and Snoop Dogg, "Step yo game up!"
 
Would you want a Doc who averages a B in patient care or a B in bedside manner?

As stated by Floyd Mayweather and Snoop Dogg, "Step yo game up!"

If he's a doc, I couldn't care less.
 
Would you want a Doc who averages a B in patient care or a B in bedside manner?

As stated by Floyd Mayweather and Snoop Dogg, "Step yo game up!"

What does the first statement have to do with anything in this thread? Better yet, what exactly is a B in patient care or bedside manner?
 
What does the first statement have to do with anything in this thread? Better yet, what exactly is a B in patient care or bedside manner?

Obviously, this person isn't in med school or they would know that P=MD.
 
Freshman year is EASILY the most difficult. You are fine.

Agreed. I have seen plenty'o good high school student get a bad surprise their freshman year. It sometimes takes a while to figure out what is expected in college.

Further, just remember that everyone is perfect on the internet, or at least they are on SDN. Let the haters hate.
 
Agreed. I have seen plenty'o good high school student get a bad surprise their freshman year. It sometimes takes a while to figure out what is expected in college.

Further, just remember that everyone is perfect on the internet, or at least they are on SDN. Let the haters hate.

Poor study habits carried over from high school does not translate into freshman year being difficult material-wise IMO. Simply taking initiative can make a world of difference in how freshman year treats you.
 
I got rejected my first year, took Kaplan's review in mind-reading and BAM! I'm a med student.

ohhhh now i understand: VR = mind reading! so that's why that was my lowest section 😛

yeah spring of junior year was bad. tough classes, ec's, mcat studying (but not really), and self-destructive female exposure. similar enough.

lol wut?

and it's so funny that so many of us had nightmare junior springs! that was easily the worst 4-5 months of my life. EASILY. and for the record, i found freshman year to be the easiest in all of college. everyone's experience is different though.
 
Poor study habits carried over from high school does not translate into freshman year being difficult material-wise IMO. Simply taking initiative can make a world of difference in how freshman year treats you.

I was not really talking about material. But there are certain things that make freshman year hard for some, I did a lot better freshman year than I did in high school.

I think a lot of people have trouble because they are away from home for the first time, have study habits that worked in high-school but will not in college, and have nobody to push them (parents).

While none of that really has to do with the material studied, they are nevertheless factors that contribute to grades for many freshman. I have seen students that were really good in high school do very poorly their first year of college.
 
Let's give the guy some credit. He is a freshman, and to be honest, I really didn't know much better either. To answer your question, a few bad grades won't kill you. I know someone who made a C in organic I and a B+ in organic II. He got in with a 30 mcat.
 
Hypothetically speaking, say a freshman pre-med gets mostly B's and a few A's. Will this one year of mediocre grades severely hurt their chances of getting into med school? Let's also say that this person ends up doing very well in their later college years and ends up with a high GPA (>3.7).What happens then? Do med schools go through each student's transcript with a fine-toothed comb, or are they more concerned with cGPA?

Hi there, you seem stressed out. Dont worry, be happy. I personally would retake, but thats just me
 
If everyone that got a B retook the class...
 
I got a B- a couple Bs, and a couple B+s, also took a few courses P/F.

14 interviews so far. No acceptances yet, but still?
 
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