BU vs. UMASS - Looking for insight

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I am starting this post because I am currently wresting with a very tough decision between Umass medical school and Boston University Medical school. I have lived in Boston for the past 5 years and love it here. I think that the education at both school will be great and rewarding. This sort of boils down to a cost vs. location dilemma seeing as how I will most likely graduate from UMass with 60k debt vs 250k debt at BU.

I am looking for perspective from any current Medical school student who may have had to make this type of choice already.

Please be respectful.

Best,
Slam
 
UMass. BU is definitely not worth an extra 190k in debt in my opinion. BU is a good school, but UMass can provide similar quality in education at a much cheaper price.
 
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UMass. BU is definitely worth an extra 190k in debt in my opinion. BU is a good school, but UMass can provide similar quality in education at a much cheaper price.

Agree.
 
On my interview day the tour guides said that a few students commuted in from
Boston for mandatory labs and classes. The lectures are online so if you really wanted to live in Boston you could probably have it both ways, at least for your first two years.
 
I chose BU over UMass. I really felt that the difference in clinical training made BU a better choice for me.
 
I am starting this post because I am currently wresting with a very tough decision between Umass medical school and Boston University Medical school. I have lived in Boston for the past 5 years and love it here. I think that the education at both school will be great and rewarding. This sort of boils down to a cost vs. location dilemma seeing as how I will most likely graduate from UMass with 60k debt vs 250k debt at BU.

I am looking for perspective from any current Medical school student who may have had to make this type of choice already.

Please be respectful.

Best,
Slam

It would be really hard for me to turn down the in-state tuition at UMass even if it meant living in a smaller city. Do you know what specialties you're interested in? Of course people change their minds, but if you really like primary care or peds, you'd be much better off at UMass where your debt would be smaller. If you find the more competitive and less common specialties the most interesting, Boston would offer better opportunities and you'd also likely make a lot more money (thus placing less importance on the debt issue).
 
the only thing any current student talked about when i interviewed there was the price. umass also has a humongous chunk of primary care rotation iirc, so if that's not your thing..
 
I am starting this post because I am currently wresting with a very tough decision between Umass medical school and Boston University Medical school. I have lived in Boston for the past 5 years and love it here. I think that the education at both school will be great and rewarding. This sort of boils down to a cost vs. location dilemma seeing as how I will most likely graduate from UMass with 60k debt vs 250k debt at BU.

I am looking for perspective from any current Medical school student who may have had to make this type of choice already.

Please be respectful.

Best,
Slam

Just an FYI, AAMC has an awesome spread sheet they've created which compares meds school based on their price (tuition+fees+health insurance). This helps for comparison because places like Umass have a really low tuition but one of the highest fees and insurance costs...

Based on this, Umass is 23K per year and BU is 52K per year. Its closer to an 89K versus 208K difference NOT including housing costs, etc.

(for private)
http://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/report.cfm?select_control=PRI&year_of_study=2012

(for public)
http://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/report.cfm?select_control=PUB&year_of_study=2012
 
I am starting this post because I am currently wresting with a very tough decision between Umass medical school and Boston University Medical school. I have lived in Boston for the past 5 years and love it here. I think that the education at both school will be great and rewarding. This sort of boils down to a cost vs. location dilemma seeing as how I will most likely graduate from UMass with 60k debt vs 250k debt at BU.

I am looking for perspective from any current Medical school student who may have had to make this type of choice already.

Please be respectful.

Best,
Slam

This is probably false. Have you really added up all of the cost of attendance? I think it's probably only a $25k/yr cost difference once you add everything up. Not to mention that you'll need a car in Worcester and would not need one at BU, so the cost difference is likely even smaller.
 
Do you think doing physical exam as a m1 will make you any lees clueless when you start on the wards? 🙄

I disagree!!! I think for some it is worth going to a different school that has more debt if that school and the city fits better with their personality and goals. While every school gives an MD that is an allopathic medical school, they all have different approaches in their teaching, their cities are all very different, and their students are all different in their own ways. What's more is that some have mission statements that more focus on rural health, others more on research, others which have the right balance. some more inner city focused and others with patients who are often richer patients or more rare cases.

you have to search within you to find what it is you are looking for.

I have had friends who turned down other schools that might have been cheaper to attend schools like BUSM and Tufts and for them it was the right decision. I hate when everyone says only go to the cheapest school without thinking about what school is really right for them.

Umass and BUSM are both strong research schools in the top 50 ranked schools along with tufts med, generally in the mid 30s in BU's case to mid to late 40s in UMass and Tufts' case in the last few years.

They all have strong research, strong clinicals, etc. But I've never seen the professors in action at UMass whereas I and even rogueunicorn did see them in action at BUSM and I'm sure he'd agree with me with what I said in my other post above. In other words, that the professors at BUSM have a passion and conviction to not just present but to truly teach you and show that they love doing so. That is what impresses me the most. And as i said before you will do stuff that most students do only starting 2nd year at many other schools, starting from your first year itself. I wish my school would do the same but I've strengthened my conviction after coming back from Boston to see my friends to take the initiative to do such on my own through the free clinics at my school in detroit and shadowing opps here so I can be on par with them. Cheers. Good luck in your decision. Think about what school will make you happiest without equating financial issues into it because you will make the money back in due time and for the high cost of BUSM they do give yu your money's worth. There are many at public schools as OOSers that pay equally as much as BUSM students and don't get half of what BUSM gives you for the price you pay them. Put that into perspective when you make your decision.
 
Do you think doing physical exam as a m1 will make you any lees clueless when you start on the wards? 🙄

lol at the above post! Agreed, at my school we get the "physical exam" and "patient interaction" early in too, guess what we are all still useless in clinic. whoop!

Also, not sure why everyone likes to forget about loan interest, even if the difference was only 60K vs 100K (which it definitely is not), by the time you are done paying off the loans the difference is >>40K.
 
You read too much into my post!! but then why am I surprised after all the years I've seen your posts on the postbac forums!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, my point was in everything they do they show a strength, conviction, and passion in their teaching I've not seen at several other schools.

My point was that for some it is not always the wiser decision to go based on just this is cheaper so I'm going here.

Go where your heart tells you to go!! Go where your gut tells you to you fit in!!! Go where you think you will get the best for what you pay!!!

PS Dritz, don't bother replying.

To be fair, I don't think your advertisement of their earlier and supposedly more comprehensive clinical exposure represents your point of them showing strength, conviction, and passion in their teaching if such exposures don't help the students. I believe Dritz was just pointing that out: that the particular example doesn't really back up your statements.
 
You read too much into my post!! but then why am I surprised after all the years I've seen your posts on the postbac forums!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, my point was in everything they do they show a strength, conviction, and passion in their teaching I've not seen at several other schools.

My point was that for some it is not always the wiser decision to go based on just this is cheaper so I'm going here.

Go where your heart tells you to go!! Go where your gut tells you to you fit in!!! Go where you think you will get the best for what you pay!!!

PS Dritz, don't bother replying.

I understand you have a lot of experience with different schools since you were a premed for... 8 years and however many cycles (congrats on finally being accepted btw) but your posts make no sense. You stated that they're both strong schools but then said the cost doesn't matter. I think it's totally worth it to pay more for schools that are considerably better than other ones, however these two are pretty similar in most ways. I suppose if you were dead set on emergency medicine or trauma surgery, you'd get a richer experience at BMC, but the OP didn't claim they were really interested in that anyways.
 
I understand you have a lot of experience with different schools since you were a premed for... 8 years and however many cycles (congrats on finally being accepted btw) but your posts make no sense. You stated that they're both strong schools but then said the cost doesn't matter. I think it's totally worth it to pay more for schools that are considerably better than other ones, however these two are pretty similar in most ways. I suppose if you were dead set on emergency medicine or trauma surgery, you'd get a richer experience at BMC, but the OP didn't claim they were really interested in that anyways.

You might get a richer experience at BU for those fields, but general surgery isn't the most competitive of fields in any case.

Cost-wise, don't forget that housing in Worcester might be 1/3 as expensive as housing in the South end. I have friends who pay $1300 for a studio in the South End. So if you want to live near school, that's another $10,000/year difference, meaning $40,000 over the course of 4 years. The cost of a car pales in comparison.

Comparing all of the Boston schools, I found little reason that I would ever choose BU or Tufts over UMass. Tufts is a little more obvious because it's adjacently ranked, but BU has a similar cost (high). There's the issue of specific fit, but UMass has strong programs in research (can you say Nobel Prize?), likely as strong as BU, that med students can get involved in.

And before someone jumps on me, I'm not saying that going to BU will not give you a better chance at a higher ranked residency. However, several people from UMass seem to match into Harvard hospitals yearly, so it's certainly not impossible.
 
I understand you have a lot of experience with different schools since you were a premed for... 8 years and however many cycles (congrats on finally being accepted btw) but your posts make no sense. You stated that they're both strong schools but then said the cost doesn't matter. I think it's totally worth it to pay more for schools that are considerably better than other ones, however these two are pretty similar in most ways. I suppose if you were dead set on emergency medicine or trauma surgery, you'd get a richer experience at BMC, but the OP didn't claim they were really interested in that anyways.

LOL well-said.
 
Unabashed revival.

Anyone care to comment on how much clinical experience UMass and BU both want? I hear that the former is extremely service oriented.

Thanks!
 
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