C- grade

[bubbles17]

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Hi-

I recieved a C- in my ochem class. and at my school it is consider passing, with the option of retaking it.

i was wondering, some schools say they require that you take the requriments without mentioning what grade is needed- entire GPA is what matters in the end, but i found one school that said that i must have a C and above in all classes....

are most schools looking at overall...or will they focus on that one C- and say im disqualified.

thanks

 

[tacrum43]

Hi-

I recieved a C- in my ochem class. and at my school it is consider passing, with the option of retaking it.

i was wondering, some schools say they require that you take the requriments without mentioning what grade is needed- entire GPA is what matters in the end, but i found one school that said that i must have a C and above in all classes....

are most schools looking at overall...or will they focus on that one C- and say im disqualified.

thanks

I think you have to have a C or above in all of your medical school pre-reqs, including O-chem, so you will need to retake the course. Yeah, O-chem is not fun.

 

[Prospero]

When that gets put into your AMCAS application though, shouldn't it read as a C? After all, there's no +/- with AMCAS. And I wouldn't worry too much about one C, I had a C in an upperdivision bio course and I got into 3 of the eight schools I applied to this year. You're by no means dead in the water... just don't make it a habit 🙂

Hope that helps.

 

[DrBowtie]

When that gets put into your AMCAS application though, shouldn't it read as a C? After all, there's no +/- with AMCAS. And I wouldn't worry too much about one C, I had a C in an upperdivision bio course and I got into 3 of the eight schools I applied to this year. You're by no means dead in the water... just don't make it a habit 🙂

Hope that helps.

There def. is +/- with AMCAS.

 

[HCW212]

^ Ditto.

 

[Queenshawtii]

Yup. You have to retake it because some school specifically state that you need a C- in a prereq course is not acceptable.

I had to retake one of mine as well 🙁

 

[alEXatosu]

Does anyone know of any resources that can tell you which schools don't accept a C- ? Or do I have to do it the hard way and call each school?

I'm actually kind of worried, because I have a C- in the second Ochem of a three course series from undergrad, but I took upper division coursework, and I am currently in a graduate program taking medical school courses and doing well. I am applying this cycle and I have no time to take an Ochem course. Do you guys think I'm screwed?

 

[OSUdoc08]

Does anyone know of any resources that can tell you which schools don't accept a C- ? Or do I have to do it the hard way and call each school?

I'm actually kind of worried, because I have a C- in the second Ochem of a three course series from undergrad, but I took upper division coursework, and I am currently in a graduate program taking medical school courses and doing well. I am applying this cycle and I have no time to take an Ochem course. Do you guys think I'm screwed?

The rule is 70 or above. If the C- is below 70, then it must be retaken. Some schools actually count a C- as 70, so it would obviously be okay.

 

[87138]

I'm interested in this as well. I took organismal biology with lab a few years ago at the first school I attended before transferring. I got a C- in there thanks to nonexistant study habits at the time, among other things. Since then my grades have been stellar, and I've taken and aced several other bio classes . . . but only one of those other bio classes was with a lab. So basically the two "bio with lab" classes I took, I have a C- and A in, along with a couple non-lab bio classes I got A's in. I don't remember how my old school assigned C-'s, but I think it was still a 70 or above . . .

 

[chaeymaey]

There are no +/- in TMDSAS. There are +/- in AMCAS.

 

[remo]

I went through the whole MSAR a few weeks ago and I only remember 2 or 3 schools that specifically said you need at least a C in all the pre-reqs. There might be more but you would have to verify with them directly. I looked into this pretty carefully because I had to re-take physics 2 after getting a D in it 10 years ago and it was hell!

 

[bioboy2007]

I think you have to have a C or above in all of your medical school pre-reqs, including O-chem, so you will need to retake the course. Yeah, O-chem is not fun.

I had no idea about that...good to know...

For the OP, in case this is not the case (you CAN have a C- to satisfy a pre-req requirement), take an upper level orgo and do well in it. I personally feel that this will show that you can handle the concepts of orgo even when they are presented at a more advanced level.

Good luck.

 

[Oculus Sinistra]

Hi-

I recieved a C- in my ochem class. and at my school it is consider passing, with the option of retaking it.

i was wondering, some schools say they require that you take the requriments without mentioning what grade is needed- entire GPA is what matters in the end, but i found one school that said that i must have a C and above in all classes....

are most schools looking at overall...or will they focus on that one C- and say im disqualified.

thanks

I would retake it. The general rule of thumb is "nothing lower than a C" but realistically, it's more like "nothing lower than a B" since schools flinch when they see C's, regardless of +/-

 

[drpac]

Hi-

I recieved a C- in my ochem class. and at my school it is consider passing, with the option of retaking it.

i was wondering, some schools say they require that you take the requriments without mentioning what grade is needed- entire GPA is what matters in the end, but i found one school that said that i must have a C and above in all classes....

are most schools looking at overall...or will they focus on that one C- and say im disqualified.

thanks

Not that I'm an expert or anything, but I got a C- in one of my ochem classes and I've still gotten interviews and I'm on a few waitlists...it really depends on the grades you get in your other science classes...If you retake it and get an A that will be better, but don't expend that much energy unless you have to...look at the whole package you have to offer...Of course, I'm not in anywhere yet, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me...

 

[OSUdoc08]

Not that I'm an expert or anything, but I got a C- in one of my ochem classes and I've still gotten interviews and I'm on a few waitlists...it really depends on the grades you get in your other science classes...If you retake it and get an A that will be better, but don't expend that much energy unless you have to...look at the whole package you have to offer...Of course, I'm not in anywhere yet, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me...

Keep in mind that you can be accepted to a school prior to completing the prerequisites. Your C- may not qualify you for matriculation. Check with the admissions office for details, ESPECIALLY if your C- is below 70.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Does anyone know of any resources that can tell you which schools don't accept a C- ? Or do I have to do it the hard way and call each school?

I'm actually kind of worried, because I have a C- in the second Ochem of a three course series from undergrad, but I took upper division coursework, and I am currently in a graduate program taking medical school courses and doing well. I am applying this cycle and I have no time to take an Ochem course. Do you guys think I'm screwed?

Did you take biochem? Some schools accept i course of o-chem and a course of bio chem insteead of two semesters of o-chem

 

[Psycho Doctor]

I would retake it. The general rule of thumb is "nothing lower than a C" but realistically, it's more like "nothing lower than a B" since schools flinch when they see C's, regardless of +/-

what? the year i was applying I could not believ ehow many people said they had several Ds, Cs and even Fs. Ok I assume they retook the Ds and certainly the Fs, but really they only want Bs? Ar eyou just referring to pre-reqs or sciences or what?

 

[OSUdoc08]

what? the year i was applying I could not believ ehow many people said they had several Ds, Cs and even Fs. Ok I assume they retook the Ds and certainly the Fs, but really they only want Bs? Ar eyou just referring to pre-reqs or sciences or what?

They PREFER B's or above.

They REQUIRE C's or above for pre-requisites.

 

[fuzzywuz]

Is orgo universally hard everywhere?

I hear my friends that about it as if its nothing. My friend just aced that course, my other one thought the final wasn't so bad.

But then again, they don't go to an ivy league school. Does that really matter though? And no, I'm not taking personal attributes into account. I do acknowledge the fact that some people have the natural ability to handle it.

 

[kevster2001]

I would take it again just because its a big black mark on your transcript

 

[OSUdoc08]

Is orgo universally hard everywhere?

I hear my friends that about it as if its nothing. My friend just aced that course, my other one thought the final wasn't so bad.

But then again, they don't go to an ivy league school. Does that really matter though? And no, I'm not taking personal attributes into account. I do acknowledge the fact that some people have the natural ability to handle it.

No, it is not. It is one of the easiest chemistry courses at my school.

I really do see what makes it difficult. It is sheer memorization --> no actual thinking is needed. All you have to do is list out all of the reactions and memorize them.

I did poorly in the classes that actually made you do calculations such as math, physics, or gen chem.

We did have one professor that was difficult, but only idiots took his course.

 

[thebeatgoeson]

Can someone confirm from an MSAR which schools will not accept anything below a C?

Granted, some schools like the U of Iowa have a minimum requirement of 2.5 overall to apply.

Although there is this curious factoid on the Yale Pre-Med information website

 

[alEXatosu]

different people, different opinions..

I was a crammer for everything throughout college, and I mean every class I could cram for....EXCEPT OCHEM. I learned the hard way that ochem was a different animal and cramming did not produce likeable results. I still think its the hardest course I took in college.

 

[OSUdoc08]

different people, different opinions..

I was a crammer for everything throughout college, and I mean every class I could cram for....EXCEPT OCHEM. I learned the hard way that ochem was a different animal and cramming did not produce likeable results. I still think its the hardest course I took in college.

I'm not sure how one could cram for physics, calculus, or gen chem. You had to memorize the equations, but you also had to be able to use them.

I would spend the night or two before ochem just memorizing the reactions, since our exams were strictly recall.

 

[mdille2]

The rule is 70 or above. If the C- is below 70, then it must be retaken. Some schools actually count a C- as 70, so it would obviously be okay.

Really? Because a C in my ochem class was like a 50 or something.

Marcia

 

[OSUdoc08]

Really? Because a C in my ochem class was like a 50 or something.

Marcia

Geez, where did you go to school?

This is typically how it works:

A = 90-100

B = 80-89

C = 70-79

D = 60-69

F = 0-59

(No matter what your school uses for letter grades, 70 is the standard cutoff for an acceptable grade for medical school.)

 

[87138]

Geez, where did you go to school?

This is typically how it works:

A = 90-100

B = 80-89

C = 70-79

D = 60-69

F = 0-59

(No matter what your school uses for letter grades, 70 is the standard cutoff for an acceptable grade for medical school.)

A lot of larger schools end up having ochem profs whose tests are designed so that the mean is in the 50's. Then the grades are "curved" at the end so that, say, above a 65 is a B, and above a 75 is an A.

 

[mdille2]

Average score on the tests were around a 50 in my ochem and physics classes, in other upper level bio courses it was close to a 60. So the professors take the average test scores and those are C's. Breakdowns for A's and B's vary from prof to prof. BTW. most make the tests that hard so as to make the average a 50. And my school is UIC.
Marcia

 

[DrKitty]

I have a C- in Organic Chem I. It was 6 years ago. I never retook the course. Since then, I finished college and finished a graduate porgram already. I got accepted to 2 med schools. Does that mean I may still have problems matriculating? Could they overlook my C- and, once it's time for matriculation, they will make me retake Orgo? Somebody please clear this up for me

 

[MollyMalone]

I have a C- in Organic Chem I. It was 6 years ago. I never retook the course. Since then, I finished college and finished a graduate porgram already. I got accepted to 2 med schools. Does that mean I may still have problems matriculating? Could they overlook my C- and, once it's time for matriculation, they will make me retake Orgo? Somebody please clear this up for me

Call your school and make sure. I think that if there were something you needed to do in order to matriculate, they would have told you at the time of acceptance, though.

 

[fuzzywuz]

my course is curved to a B/B-

 

[spi11edpaint]

what happens if you retake the C though? the school will still see the original grade...are you still pretty much disqualified, even if you have an a otherwise?

 

[Law2Doc]

what happens if you retake the C though? the school will still see the original grade...are you still pretty much disqualified, even if you have an a otherwise?

The schools will see all the grades and they will all be averaged into AMCAS. One bad grade out of many is not going to be fatal. But if you retook a C- and got a higher grade, you would be allowed to matriculate at a school that required C or better in the prereqs.

 

[OSUdoc08]

what happens if you retake the C though? the school will still see the original grade...are you still pretty much disqualified, even if you have an a otherwise?

You don't get "disqualified" with a few C's.

D's or F's will kill you, however.