CA-1 spot etiquette???

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i am a non-traditional applicant and just had my first interview for a CA1 spot. i was offered a spot there....loved the program and the people but that was my first interview. does anyone know how this works? can i tell them i'd like to interview a few more places before making my decision or will my spot offer be gone? so confused!
 
i am a non-traditional applicant and just had my first interview for a CA1 spot. i was offered a spot there....loved the program and the people but that was my first interview. does anyone know how this works? can i tell them i'd like to interview a few more places before making my decision or will my spot offer be gone? so confused!

I was in your shoes three years ago and it is a funny position to be in. First what did the program tell you in regards to when to provide them with an answer? I, fortunately, had scheduled all of my interviews rather grouped together and midway through my list I got tired and knew where I wanted to come so I ended up canceling the last several. I had some places lay a contract out and want me to sign right away and others were more reasonable and gave me a time period ranging from a few days to two weeks. So I think the answer really depends on what time frame they told you they expect. They will probably interview other people after that timeframe and offer them the same position they offered you.
 
I thought these were old wives tales. On my interview trail last year, I never heard of anyone getting this kind of offer nor did any of my friends who interviewed. Maybe we just sucked.
 
I thought these were old wives tales. On my interview trail last year, I never heard of anyone getting this kind of offer nor did any of my friends who interviewed. Maybe we just sucked.

Alot of programs will hold spots outside of eras for nontrads. Like someone switching from PGY3 Gen surg to Anes, or someone who has been practicing IM for a few years and wants a change, or like in my case spent several years in the military after internship and is now coming back to residency.
 
These types of offers are definitely not old wives' tales or urban legends. In fact I think they are quite common among the residency programs in anesthesiology.

I would describe the types of spots offered as being one of two types:

1) Program is "average" or does not always fill, and keeps spots reserved for a strong DO or IMG candidate.

2) Program is "elite" (for example, a Harvard program) and keeps spots reserved for a strong FMG (not IMG) or for someone who boarded in another specialty or is transferring from another specialty (for example, plastic surgery resident who pulled excellent numbers in medical school and no longer wants to continue plastic surgery).

If your offer is from an "elite" program I've known people who got offer at X program (very well known) but would prefer Y program (equally well known) but Y program refuses to offer them an outside-the-match spot and tells them to go through the match instead. I have known these types of candidates to actually turn down the outside-the-match offer and then match to their true top choice program through the match. They put you in a tough spot but usually if you're that type of candidate, from what I hear you end up matching well anyway.

If your offer is from an "average" program, also puts you in a tough spot.... they've made you the offer and put time pressure on you to sign with them and give up your other prospects, when you don't know what your prospects really are.

BUT.... I have also known a candidate who signed a pre-match agreement, went through the match, found out that HE MATCHED at a place he wanted to go to, and told the pre-matched institution he was no longer coming. I do not know the full details so can't answer many questions about how he did this -- all I know is that he did it.
 
BUT.... I have also known a candidate who signed a pre-match agreement, went through the match, found out that HE MATCHED at a place he wanted to go to, and told the pre-matched institution he was no longer coming. I do not know the full details so can't answer many questions about how he did this -- all I know is that he did it.

That's pretty low.

What if a program decided to do this to an applicant (i.e. Offer them a spot out-of-match and then recide it right before the match)? Could you imagine the outrage? I am surprised the program let him out of his contract.

BTW, I signed an out-of-match agreement last month. Like usnavdoc, I served active duty just after my internship and will be returning back to residency. 🙂

Congrats afdoc18 on your position. 👍
 
that's no only low but he's pretty ballsy too.
the administrators at my school warned us that if we did not drop out of the match after signing a contract we could be forced to forfeit our positions at both programs and possibly be blacklisted from future matches. ....but if he got away with it... good for him :meanie:
 
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