Cal/Stanfurd; more to chew on

[Haybrant]

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From Monday's Stanford Daily: http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&repository=0001_article&id=15400

 

[ajnak182]

From Monday's Stanford Daily: http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&repository=0001_article&id=15400

All I can say is, "WHAT BALLS."

AJ

 

[Cat's Meow]

From Monday's Stanford Daily: http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&repository=0001_article&id=15400

Take that, preppy private school kids. Thanks for the post!

 

[jellybean3]

wow stanford is actually dissing itself in its own newspapers...
well all i can say I'm glad i went to Cal.

 

[sunUCB]

nice article

 

[BAM!]

that was a beautiful article.!

 

[Medikit]

If I had to choose between either one I would go with Cal.

If I got a free ride to both I would choose Stanford.

As it is I attended a CSU so it's a moot point.

 

[kikkoman]

I think there's an easy way to end this:

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Stanford?

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Cal?

Stanford is so nice, it doesn't even feel like a real place.

 

[TiggidyTooth]

I think there's an easy way to end this:

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Stanford?

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Cal?

Stanford is so nice, it doesn't even feel like a real place.

Higher numbers do not a better school make. If you don't live in the bay area and understand the difference in the locales, you wouldn't understand. Oh, and the reason it doesn't feel like a real place is because it isn't one. You are referring to the habitable bubble world that is Stanford. Great place to raise a family, not to go to college.

AJnAK182

 

[TiggidyTooth]

I think there's an easy way to end this:

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Stanford?

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Cal?

Stanford is so nice, it doesn't even feel like a real place.

Oh, and I too have a way to end this, but more accurate. How many people do you know who graduated from Stanford and wished they went to Cal, and how many folks do you know who went to Cal and wished they'd gone to Stanford? I think the article cited by the OP can help you figure that one out

AJnAK182

 

[kikkoman]

Higher numbers do not a better school make. If you don't live in the bay area and understand the difference in the locales, you wouldn't understand. Oh, and the reason it doesn't feel like a real place is because it isn't one. You are referring to the habitable bubble world that is Stanford. Great place to raise a family, not to go to college.

AJnAK182

I never mentioned numbers - I think you can compare school qualities by seeing what people who have the choice to go to multiple schools decide to do. Of course, there is a subjective element in each individual choice, but I feel it gives a lot of information.

Rivalries and rivalries, but when it comes down to an important and real decision, where do people go?

And Stanford might not be a "real place," but it's pretty sweet.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

I never mentioned numbers - I think you can compare school qualities by seeing what people who have the choice to go to multiple schools decide to do. Of course, there is a subjective element in each individual choice, but I feel it gives a lot of information.

Rivalries and rivalries, but when it comes down to an important and real decision, where do people go?

And Stanford might not be a "real place," but it's pretty sweet.

Forget it Kikko, no one method is going to settle this. Not now, not ever.

 

[kikkoman]

Forget it Kikko, no one method is going to settle this. Not now, not ever.

=[

Yeah, I just came across the other thread....

 

[Medikit]

Forget it Kikko, no one method is going to settle this. Not now, not ever.

If you get to choose between Cal and Stanford then you are already eating awesome pie.

 

[constructor]

Oh, and I too have a way to end this, but more accurate. How many people do you know who graduated from Stanford and wished they went to Cal, and how many folks do you know who went to Cal and wished they'd gone to Stanford? I think the article cited by the OP can help you figure that one out

AJnAK182

haha, i can assure you that the authors of the article are probably the only two people at stanford who feel the way they do about stanford versus cal.

 

[Haybrant]

haha, i can assure you that the authors of the article are probably the only two people at stanford who feel the way they do about stanford versus cal.

i was waiting for your ass to reply; anyway, ive met countless others that feel the same way; you should write a letter to the editor on that and ask for the author's to be fired or something...

 

[Cat's Meow]

Only if Cal had a medical school...

 

[i77ac]

both are awesome schools... i'm a cal grad, but honestly, i would not mind going to stanford med.

not one bit...

 

[exmike]

Only if Cal had a medical school...

UCSF/UCB JMP

 

[neuronerd]

both are awesome schools... i'm a cal grad, but honestly, i would not mind going to stanford med.

not one bit...

I officially second this.

 

[lakersfan]

I think there's an easy way to end this:

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Stanford?

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Cal?

Stanford is so nice, it doesn't even feel like a real place.

Lets just say ur an ass and leave it at that? ok?

 

[jeffsleepy]

I could write down a bajillion reasons when I think Stanford kicks Cal's ass. And in the world of med school applications, grade inflation isn't such a bad thing.

BTW did you guys read yesterday's Daily Cal about our problems w/ grade inflation. Shame on you L&S people. 😉

 

[Haybrant]

BTW did you guys read yesterday's Daily Cal about our problems w/ grade inflation. Shame on you L&S people. 😉

i didnt read it; could you post it? bear in mind the majority of us are mcb people; not too much grade inflation there like polisci perhaps...

 

[susiestar10]

i think it would be highly ironic if those who really hated stanfurd so much applied to stanford med.

rivalries are stupid. love, guys!

 

[Haybrant]

I could write down a bajillion reasons when I think Stanford kicks Cal's ass. And in the world of med school applications, grade inflation isn't such a bad thing. 😉

...and i could write down a bajillion reasons the oppossite way; like the squirrels at Cal are cuter, or the panoramic view from the 5th floor geog building beat any view at stanford; But with the things that actually matter regarding academics and social issues, Cal wins....

 

[constructor]

i was waiting for your ass to reply; anyway, ive met countless others that feel the same way; you should write a letter to the editor on that and ask for the author's to be fired or something...

why should i care? i don't feel the same way and none of my friends do either, but they have a right to say what they want to say.

 

[constructor]

...and i could write down a bajillion reasons the oppossite way; like the squirrels at Cal are cuter, or the panoramic view from the 5th floor geog building beat any view at stanford; But with the things that actually matter regarding academics and social issues, Cal wins....

you obviously haven't been to stanford if you think cal has better views than stanford. anyway, my gf goes to cal and i think you guys have a much better college town and there's a lot more to do without question. but that's about it... you can say all you want about superiority of academics and social life, but you're preaching to the choir. cal people feel one way, stanford people feel the other way, and objective people generally don't give a ****. in my case, everyone at my high school wanted to go to stanford over cal hands down and i know that's a virtually unanimous situation for high school students in california. i guess once those people come to cal, they change their opinions and it's only natural. as far as i'm concerned, it's not really a rivalry except when it comes to a few athletic events here and there - basically the football and basketball games. i play a varsity sport here that's not as well known and we do play cal, but hardly any of the students get excited about it when we play them. i think this is generally the way it is except during two or three days of the year, and that's not enough to make it a rivalry.

 

[jeffsleepy]

http://www.dailycal.org/article.php?id=17051
for all who care.

I just think it's funny how everyone on my AIM list has it in their info as reasons why Stanford sucks. Both schools rock.

 

[Haybrant]

why should i care? i don't feel the same way and none of my friends do either, but they have a right to say what they want to say.

you're right, you can feel whatever way; but dont say in your post that you can assure the only people that feel that way are the people writing the article; if you dont want people to impose their beliefs on you, dont do it to them...

 

[constructor]

you're right, you can feel whatever way; but dont say in your post that you can assure the only people that feel that way are the people writing the article; if you dont want people to impose their beliefs on you, dont do it to them...

you're a nutcase. how am i imposing anything on them by stating that the two writers feel a certain way which is uncommon for students here in my experience? let's not forget that i go to school here (unlike you, who prefers to talk out of your ass and blow a lot of hot air like so many cal students), so i know how most people here tend to feel about this. i'm not trying to tell you how people at cal generally feel about stanford, so stop being an dingus and trying to tell me how stanford kids feel about cal, okay?

another comment i want to make here... the smart kids at cal whom i really respect and believe should've gotten into stanford do not have this blind, bitter hatred for stanford that you and a few others seem to have. instead, they are very objective and fair because they are completely secure about themselves. maybe you should try doing the same if you feel you really belong... 🙄

 

[ByrnBabyByrn]

you're a nutcase. how am i imposing anything on them by stating that the two writers feel a certain way which is uncommon for students here in my experience? let's not forget that i go to school here (unlike you, who prefers to talk out of your ass and blow a lot of hot air like so many cal students), so i know how most people here tend to feel about this. i'm not trying to tell you how people at cal generally feel about stanford, so stop being an dingus and trying to tell me how stanford kids feel about cal, okay?

another comment i want to make here... the smart kids at cal whom i really respect and believe should've gotten into stanford do not have this blind, bitter hatred for stanford that you and a few others seem to have. instead, they are very objective and fair because they are completely secure about themselves. maybe you should try doing the same if you feel you really belong... 🙄

Whoa, just relax. I've never met anyone at Cal who has a blind, bitter hatred for Stanford. Everyone in the whole world knows it's a great school. I thought the stuff you were writing in the other thread was all in good fun so I was just going along with it. And I think the other Cal people were too. You do understand we're rivals, right? And as for which school is better? Who cares. The best school is simply the one that ultimately gets you where you want to be.

 

[Cat's Meow]

isn't stunford spelled as stanford?

 

[CarlosMielefan]

Listen to you guys! You all need to get out a bit more.

 

[calstudent]

all i know is that both are great schools, with bunches of awesome students at both of them; while their environments and atmospheres are different, I have no doubt that a lot of great doctors (and other people) are in training at both. the thread has been a good read, though; and, yes, i did get rejected from stanfurd undergrad. and despised them for it, but hey, we all make the most of what we are given, right?

 

[erebus77]

Whoa, just relax. I've never met anyone at Cal who has a blind, bitter hatred for Stanford. Everyone in the whole world knows it's a great school. I thought the stuff you were writing in the other thread was all in good fun so I was just going along with it. And I think the other Cal people were too. You do understand we're rivals, right? And as for which school is better? Who cares. The best school is simply the one that ultimately gets you where you want to be.

WSJ Feeder Schools

well, according to the wall street journal, stanford will get you where you want to go just a tad better -- after all, no one grows up shooting for middle management or mid tier grad schools.

anyways, the rivalry thing is just like between harvard and yale. all the schools mentioned are great schools, but yale's freshman orientation, just as is cal's, is a few days of vehement "rival" bashing. the opposite is not true.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Alright guys, enough. It's all good, it's just a for fun rivalry, don't read too much into it.

 

[ByrnBabyByrn]

WSJ Feeder Schools

anyways, the rivalry thing is just like between harvard and yale. all the schools mentioned are great schools, but yale's freshman orientation, just as is cal's, is a few days of vehement "rival" bashing. the opposite is not true.

Wow those Wall Street Journal folks sure know how to conduct their research. How they were able to crunch all those numbers from all 5 of the med schools they surveyed boggles my mind. At least they have a sense of humor by coming up with the subtitle "A Comprehensive Ranking...". FYI, if I can remember correctly, our orientation consisted of about 10 minutes of Stanford bashing, just a tad bit shy of a few days.

 

[davidus]

Let's give this a rest. Stanford Shamford. Berkeley Tofurkley.

 

[Haybrant]

another comment i want to make here... the smart kids at cal whom i really respect do not have this blind, bitter hatred for stanford that you and a few others seem to have. instead, they are very objective and fair because they are completely secure about themselves. maybe you should try doing the same if you feel you really belong... 🙄

another comment i want to make here... the smart kids at stanford whom i really respect do not have this blind, bitter hatred for cal that you and a few others seem to have. instead, they are very objective and fair because they are completely secure about themselves. maybe you should try doing the same if you feel you really belong...

..where ever could i have gotten these words from...

 

[Harps]

Both schools are great! 🙂

It's just that the Stanford Law School is ranked number 2 or 3 and Stanford Business School is ranked 1 or 2. 😛 (I know, I know...the chem., phys., and other Cal graduate programs are ranked really really high..blah blah blah)

Doesn't really matter to me, since I am in medicine. 🙂

Honestly, the reputation of your undergraduate school doesn't matter a whole lot in the medical school process. Believe me, I have been through the process, and plus this issue has been discussed to death on the boards.

The environment of each school is definitely the difference. Stanford IS a bubble! Practically every other car is a Benz, BMW, Jag...whatnot....if this type of yuppiness annoys you, don't go to Stanford undergrad. or the medical school because you will see a lot of it...go to UCSF instead or rather the UCSF/UCB JMP program (which is great, btw).

There IS an elitist mentality at Stanford. Maybe it's the students that are attracted to the school or maybe the environment shapes the students' attitudes. If anyone needs proof, just walk into the Stanford Shopping Center, which is incidentally adjacent to the medical school. The place has a Tiffany's, Neiman-Marcus....it's a bit ridiculous. The great advantage is that money is abundant at the school (undergrad. and med.). The networking is awesome, if one is into such type of connection-building.

Having not personally seen the creative educational environment at Cal, I will not comment on it. Although I would venture to guess that education quality (this is a nebulous term, but let's not get into semantics) at both places is more or less equivalent. It's the less tangible advantages that might sway students to attend either Cal/JMP or Stanford.

Sorry for the long post. 🙂 I got bored of watching genetics lecture at 1 a.m. in the morning and decided to let my mind wander about this Cal vs. Stanford issue.

Let the debate continue. 🙂

-Harps

 

[Nutmeg]

Alls I gots ta say is.......


CALIFORNIA
UBER ALLES!!!

Any school on the West Coast is okay by me.
Die Luft der Freiheit weht.
Fiat Lux!
😎 👍

 

[Harps]

Alls I gots ta say is.......


CALIFORNIA
UBER ALLES!!!

Any school on the West Coast is okay by me.
Die Luft der Freiheit weht.
Fiat Lux!
😎 👍

I like the colours of your post!! Very festive 🙂

-Harps

 

[Nutmeg]

I think there's an easy way to end this:

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Stanford?

How many people do you know that got into Stanford and Cal that went to Cal?

Stanford is so nice, it doesn't even feel like a real place.

People choose their school before attending classes at said school. This is a great way to guage the subjective opinions of HS grads that haven't taken a single college course, but as far as assessing the merits of the school, it means approximately d**k.

Regards.

 

[Cat's Meow]

Let's give this a rest. Stanford Shamford. Berkeley Tofurkley.