Can anyone give me some proof that DO's are successful

[punkiedad]

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People gonna hate me for saying this...But the truth has to be said by someone. Going to a DO school is better than going to any caribbean school. Everyone know the reasons for that. By no means going to DO a school will make someone a better physician than someonse else that went to an offshore medical school(In that case SGU). However, once both of you become physician and everything being equal ie same specialty, people will give more "standing" to a MD over a DO that might have gone to the best DO school in the US. In the clinical settings, 99% of people (Doctors, Nurses, other healthcare workers, and mostly patients) do not care too much where an MD went to school. However, you still find some people that are hostile to the DO degree. I dont want anybody to be offended... I am also pursuing the DO route... We all know there is still a stigma associated with the DO degree; we all have to fight to change that.

Here is an example of my contribution to change that as a RN when I got an order from any physician:

Accucheck via finger stick AC (before meals) and QHS (at bedtime) with regular insulin for coverage.
BS (blood sugar) < 70 , give 50ml of D50
BS = 70-150, give 0 unit of insulin
BS =151-200 , 2 units
BS =201-250, 4 units
BS =251-300, 6 units
BS =301-350, 8 units
BS =351-400, 10 units
BS >400 give 12 units then CALL MD or DO.

All my colleages think I am crazy for putting DO as the hospital computer is programmed with "call MD". What I do might be silly for most of you. However, I believe it will expose the DO degree to healthcare workers because some of them dont even know what the degree is.

In the end, its not about the white coat, or the letters, it is about what you know and how you treat your patients. People will refer Dr. XXXXXX. Not the DO or the MD. Let your work and passion as a physician dictate how you deserve to be treated.

Now, you had to say it, so Im gonna say it, and probably catch some heat, but here goes: My belief (take it or leave it) is that many of this MD envy stuff comes from DOs themselves. I mean, do you really think, over the long haul, you will be judged by the initials after your name? If you have any clinical experience or have been around healthcare, you can probably name a PA you trust more than an MD, or even a nurse practitioner that really knows here stuff.

Either way, in the long run, its about you not the degree. B the best Dr. you can be and let your work speak for itself.

 

[bth7]

Accucheck via finger stick AC (before meals) and QHS (at bedtime) with regular insulin for coverage.
BS (blood sugar) < 70 , give 50ml of D50
BS = 70-150, give 0 unit of insulin
BS =151-200 , 2 units
BS =201-250, 4 units
BS =251-300, 6 units
BS =301-350, 8 units
BS =351-400, 10 units
BS >400 give 12 units then CALL MD or DO. althcare workers because some of them dont even know what the degree is.

While the sentiment is nice, there's one problem.

You'd really have to say "Call MD, DO, MBBS, NP, or PA."

There's A LOT more MBBS's in the US than DOs. And in a hospital, NP's and PA's can write orders and respond to situations like hyperglycemia.

Like it or not, it is (and ever will be) simplier to abbreviate "medical license holder" as "MD."

 

[tkim]

While the sentiment is nice, there's one problem.

You'd really have to say "Call MD, DO, MBBS, NP, or PA."

There's A LOT more MBBS's in the US than DOs. And in a hospital, NP's and PA's can write orders and respond to situations like hyperglycemia.

Like it or not, it is (and ever will be) simplier to abbreviate "medical license holder" as "MD."

What's wrong with 'house officer' - 'HO'. "Call the HO!"

 

[Siggy]

What's wrong with 'house officer' - 'HO'. "Call the HO!"

As long as you aren't calling them nappy headed...

 

[demayette]

? If you have any clinical experience or have been around healthcare, you can probably name a PA you trust more than an MD, or even a nurse practitioner that really knows here stuff.

That is very true...

 

[PunkmedGirl]

As long as you aren't calling them nappy headed...

YOu can call me a nappy head because technically I am.

 

[demayette]

While the sentiment is nice, there's one problem.

You'd really have to say "Call MD, DO, MBBS, NP, or PA."

There's A LOT more MBBS's in the US than DOs. And in a hospital, NP's and PA's can write orders and respond to situations like hyperglycemia.

Like it or not, it is (and ever will be) simplier to abbreviate "medical license holder" as "MD."

I was under the impression that once these physicians with the MBBS degree from other countries pass the USMLE and finish their residencies, they confer them the MD degree. At least the ones that I work with use MD after their names instead of MBBS.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I was under the impression that once these physicians with the MBBS degree from other countries pass the USMLE and finish their residencies, they confer them the MD degree. At least the ones that I work with use MD after their names instead of MBBS.

Yeah, I heard the same.

 

[bth7]

I was under the impression that once these physicians with the MBBS degree from other countries pass the USMLE and finish their residencies, they confer them the MD degree. At least the ones that I work with use MD after their names instead of MBBS.

Dude, your degree is your degree. The letters printed on it. No one "confers" upon thee a doctorate degree.

I passed USMLE and when I finish my residency, ain't no one gonna be conferring no degree on me.

Yes, lots of MBBSs use MD after their name, but a lot of DOs do as well. My presecription stamp plate says "MD" on it after my name, 'cause they just printed all of them that way at my hospital.

In my rule book, you can put whatever letters you want after your name.
But if we are looking to set the record straight, we should be thorough-going.

An MBBS, an MD, and a DO are three unique degrees, each with interesting traditions, cultures and idiosyncracies.

bth

 

[JaggerPlate]

Dude, your degree is your degree. The letters printed on it. No one "confers" upon thee a doctorate degree.

I passed USMLE and when I finish my residency, ain't no one gonna be conferring no degree on me.

Yes, lots of MBBSs use MD after their name, but a lot of DOs do as well. My presecription stamp plate says "MD" on it after my name, 'cause they just printed all of them that way at my hospital.

In my rule book, you can put whatever letters you want after your name.
But if we are looking to set the record straight, we should be thorough-going.

An MBBS, an MD, and a DO are three unique degrees, each with interesting traditions, cultures and idiosyncracies.

bth

Why is that in quotes??

 

[bth7]

Why is that in quotes??

I assume you mean "confers" and not "MD".

I just thought it was funny word to use, that's it: the idea that some one would be given a medical degree from the great "they" upon taking a test seemed amusing to me. If only it were that easy . . . .

🙂

Also, there are schools that will grant you an MD degree after earning an DO or MBBS degree. But you have to pay tuition, its not cheap, and you have to take a class or two, and then take the USMLE (I think.)

Also, Jagger, I tried to respond to your previous post above. It seemed important to address your concerns.

bth

 

[JaggerPlate]

I assume you mean "confers" and not "MD".

I just thought it was funny word to use, that's it: the idea that some one would be given a medical degree from the great "they" upon taking a test seemed amusing to me. If only it were that easy . . . .

🙂

Also, there are schools that will grant you an MD degree after earning an DO or MBBS degree. But you have to pay tuition, its not cheap, and you have to take a class or two, and then take the USMLE (I think.)

Also, Jagger, I tried to respond to your previous post above. It seemed important to address your concerns.

bth

I thought you put 'my hospital does it that way ...' in quotes, meaning that this was not the case or something. Also, I think the DO to MD thing disappeared, and I saw your response, it rocked, and I do need to respond, but I just haven't yet. I will, etc.

 

[Siggy]

Why is that in quotes??

It's not in quotes. There's an apostrophe before "'cause" denoting that it's an abbreviation of "because." Also, there's no end single quotation mark.

 

[Siggy]

Stupid internet freezing up last night!

 

[bth7]

It's not in quotes. There's an apostrophe before "'cause" denoting that it's an abbreviation of "because." Also, there's no end single quotation mark.

I think he figured that out.

bth

 

[tkim]

I was under the impression that once these physicians with the MBBS degree from other countries pass the USMLE and finish their residencies, they confer them the MD degree. At least the ones that I work with use MD after their names instead of MBBS.

In NYS if you hold a NYS medical license and have a foreign degree, you can pay a fee and be conferred an MD degree by the NY Board of Regents. But you can practice medicine with your foreign degree, too. So long as you are licensed ...

 

[JaggerPlate]

I think he figured that out.

bth

Yup. I went back and looked at it again ... just thought differently at first.