Can anyone post their class schedule for pre dent?!?

[BcWildcat]

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I am in high school and need someone to post their schedule with times. I am considering playing sports and want to see how much time I will have to study.

 

[emorypredent]

Schedules vary a lot.

-I have friends that were either studying or in class from 9am-10pm everyday and I had some friends that barely went to class and would cram last minute.

-Which classes you are taking changes things too (did you spread your sciences or are you taking 3 lab sciences in one semester?)

-How academically prepared are you?

-Do you want to do other things besides sports and academics? You won't have much time for them if you do.

-The school you go to makes a BIG difference. A physics class at Georgia Tech with a professor that likes the class average to be a C is magnitudes harder than a physics class at Georgia State with a professor that curves to a B. (this is a hypothetical example, neither of these schools has a required curve...it's up to the professor if and how he/she wants to curve)

 

[NMC2010]

Generally you'll take 14-18 credit hours per semester, most classes will be done by 4 pm. Tuesdays and Thursdays are normally lab days - schedule your labs early so you have more time.

It's definitely possible to manage sports and school both, I have plenty of pre-med friends that do it (we take the same classes). I'm going to be a senior in undergrad this coming year.

 

[BcWildcat]

Generally you'll take 14-18 credit hours per semester, most classes will be done by 4 pm. Tuesdays and Thursdays are normally lab days - schedule your labs early so you have more time.

It's definitely possible to manage sports and school both, I have plenty of pre-med friends that do it (we take the same classes). I'm going to be a senior in undergrad this coming year.

Do you have breaks in between classes to study on Monday Wednesday and Friday?

Also, how many hours did you have to study a day throughout the first 2 years for pre reqs? and how much do you study for upper level?

Sorry for asking a lot. I just need answers!!!! ha

 

[BcWildcat]

Schedules vary a lot.

-I have friends that were either studying or in class from 9am-10pm everyday and I had some friends that barely went to class and would cram last minute.

-Which classes you are taking changes things too (did you spread your sciences or are you taking 3 lab sciences in one semester?)

-How academically prepared are you?

-Do you want to do other things besides sports and academics? You won't have much time for them if you do.

-The school you go to makes a BIG difference. A physics class at Georgia Tech with a professor that likes the class average to be a C is magnitudes harder than a physics class at Georgia State with a professor that curves to a B. (this is a hypothetical example, neither of these schools has a required curve...it's up to the professor if and how he/she wants to curve)

I'm not sure about how to tell how academically prepared I am. I have taken chemistry 1, physics. This year I am taking chem 2, college algebra, and cant decide whether I should take anatomy and physiology or not!!!

And would you recommend going to a bigger university or smaller private school?

 

[NMC2010]

Yes I have breaks, but only because I am forced to this year. Normally you can schedule classes so you have no breaks. I prefer this (except lunch break) because I find studying inbetween very difficult. Unfortunately, the only time my human anatomy course (yay cadavers) is offered is 6pm Mon and Weds with two 2 hour labs at 1 on tues and thurs. Histology is my other required course at 9 am with morning lab on thursday.

I nearly failed freshman year because I never studied (2.94 average GPA). Soph and junior years I studied 0-3 hours per day depending on what I felt like doing and studied all day before tests. Managed a 3.67 average GPA over past 2 years with plenty of time to spare.

Taking 16 credit hours with weird schedule and working part time (15-30 hrs/week) as a medical scribe (hopefully). I still plan on having free time.

 

[BcWildcat]

Yes I have breaks, but only because I am forced to this year. Normally you can schedule classes so you have no breaks. I prefer this (except lunch break) because I find studying inbetween very difficult. Unfortunately, the only time my human anatomy course (yay cadavers) is offered is 6pm Mon and Weds with two 2 hour labs at 1 on tues and thurs. Histology is my other required course at 9 am with morning lab on thursday.

I nearly failed freshman year because I never studied (2.94 average GPA). Soph and junior years I studied 0-3 hours per day depending on what I felt like doing and studied all day before tests. Managed a 3.67 average GPA over past 2 years with plenty of time to spare.

Taking 16 credit hours with weird schedule and working part time (15-30 hrs/week) as a medical scribe (hopefully). I still plan on having free time.

Oh, ok. Thanks for the help! So how many hours do you spend in class per week with labs if you are on 16 credit hours?

 

[NMC2010]

Oops.

16 credit hours = 16 hours in class 😉

with lab times about 20.

 

[BcWildcat]

ha, do you have any advice for me to help prepare in high school?!? I just feel like I might not be smart enough to do it! I have just slacked in hs and have a 3.6 and only got a 27 on my act, sorry if this sounds dumb!

 

[NMC2010]

ha, do you have any advice for me to help prepare in high school?!? I just feel like I might not be smart enough to do it! I have just slacked in hs and have a 3.6 and only got a 27 on my act, sorry if this sounds dumb!

ACT isn't even a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of how well you do at taking standardized tests. 27 isn't even a bad score. My sister got a 27 on hers as well and made it through an incredibly difficult, highly ranked pharmacy 6 year program with a 3.83 GPA.

Intelligence isn't what gets you through college anyways, perseverance is.

Here's my advice: don't be fooled if you did well in high school. You will have to work in college. I had a 3.92 high school GPA with never cracking a book or studying except for an hour before test night at a very easy school. It sounds like you're the same way. I nearly failed my first year of college because I thought I could just do what I did in high school.

So, start working hard from the beginning. Don't be afraid to ask professors or TA's for help! In fact, if you do this, they're 99% of the time glad to see you're trying to succeed and will like you more (helps in borderline grades + future letters of recommendation). Have fun, but don't let your social life take precedence over your academic life. You're not paying $40,000/year simply to have fun, you're doing it mainly to learn. The fun is a benefit.

Put 110% into everything and you'll do fine. Honestly, just study a little bit every day, 1-3 hours each and all day before exams and you will be fine. It's more work than HS, but it isn't impossible.

 

[BcWildcat]

ACT isn't even a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of how well you do at taking standardized tests. 27 isn't even a bad score. My sister got a 27 on hers as well and made it through an incredibly difficult, highly ranked pharmacy 6 year program with a 3.83 GPA.

Intelligence isn't what gets you through college anyways, perseverance is.

Here's my advice: don't be fooled if you did well in high school. You will have to work in college. I had a 3.92 high school GPA with never cracking a book or studying except for an hour before test night at a very easy school. It sounds like you're the same way. I nearly failed my first year of college because I thought I could just do what I did in high school.

So, start working hard from the beginning. Don't be afraid to ask professors or TA's for help! In fact, if you do this, they're 99% of the time glad to see you're trying to succeed and will like you more (helps in borderline grades + future letters of recommendation). Have fun, but don't let your social life take precedence over your academic life. You're not paying $40,000/year simply to have fun, you're doing it mainly to learn. The fun is a benefit.

Put 110% into everything and you'll do fine. Honestly, just study a little bit every day, 1-3 hours each and all day before exams and you will be fine. It's more work than HS, but it isn't impossible.

I just didn't work in high school because classes felt like a waste of time XD I plan to work as much as I need to in college because it determines the rest of my life. Thank you for all the advice and helping me! I truly appreciate it.

 

[NMC2010]

Np, good luck 🙂

 

[PointEstimate]

I think it depends on how serious you are with the sport. Are you going to be a club sport/IM guy or a Division 1 athlete. If you're going to be a D1 athlete on scholarship, your schedule will be largely influenced by the coaches and the team practice schedule that they set on top of weights, mandatory film/meetings, and physical therapy. Fortunately, at least at my school, they had study hall sessions too.

I think if you stay on top of it, and never let yourself fall behind, you'll be fine. You're not the first person to play a sport and be a pre-dental student nor will you be the last. It's been done before.

 

[ehdnwk]

like the person above said, it REALLY varies.
I've seen people take full 18 unit classes and cram the last day or two for every test and still get A or A-'s on their tests.
I've seen people that study everyday for 2-3 hours 2 weeks before an exam and still get C's.
Of course the more you study, the higher grade you will get but it depends on how fast you are able to learn certain subjects.

Our school has "pre dent" as a major and typically each student takes 2 science courses per semester and each of them has labs.
My freshmen year I studied 1 week in advance for 2~3hours for each exam and study maybe ~5 hours the day before and I managed to get A's. I think this is like the average length that predents with good grades study for, with maybe more cramming closer to the test date.
My sophomore year I studied the all day (10+hours) before my exams and I was getting B to B+'s while getting A's in subjects I was good at from high school (physics).

So it is important to learn as much as you can from your high school AP classes because it will be more of a review than learning for your pre-req classes like bio,chem,physics,math,etc.

 

[NMC2010]

If I can add in one more thing...

All people study differently I supposed, but I've found that if you can make things into pictures, it can help you remember much more easily. For example, if doing the cardiac cycle in physiology (they actually require you to know the pictures), you'll discover that all the EKG pictures, heart diagrams, etc. really help you understand the material as opposed to just trying to absorb notes or powerpoints for hours.

 

[BcWildcat]

I think it depends on how serious you are with the sport. Are you going to be a club sport/IM guy or a Division 1 athlete. If you're going to be a D1 athlete on scholarship, your schedule will be largely influenced by the coaches and the team practice schedule that they set on top of weights, mandatory film/meetings, and physical therapy. Fortunately, at least at my school, they had study hall sessions too.

I think if you stay on top of it, and never let yourself fall behind, you'll be fine. You're not the first person to play a sport and be a pre-dental student nor will you be the last. It's been done before.

Division 1 FCS, they don't offer scholarship but I am going for free. Its for football.

 

[BcWildcat]

If I can add in one more thing...

All people study differently I supposed, but I've found that if you can make things into pictures, it can help you remember much more easily. For example, if doing the cardiac cycle in physiology (they actually require you to know the pictures), you'll discover that all the EKG pictures, heart diagrams, etc. really help you understand the material as opposed to just trying to absorb notes or powerpoints for hours.

Thanks, do you think I should take anatomy and physiology in high school to help get me introduced?

 

[NMC2010]

Thanks, do you think I should take anatomy and physiology in high school to help get me introduced?

It certainly wouldn't hurt, but you'll find that most classes you take in high school really only scratch the surface. Then, when you get into dental school, you'll probably find out that most classes you took in undergrad only scratched the surface 😀

I'd say take it anyways. If you're planning on being a dentist, liking biology is a plus. Might as well take the high school version, that way when someone says something about epithelial tissue in your intro bio class for undergrad you won't be like "???"

Also, if you can find a medical terminology class to take either in high school or at the start of college, do it!

 

[BcWildcat]

It certainly wouldn't hurt, but you'll find that most classes you take in high school really only scratch the surface. Then, when you get into dental school, you'll probably find out that most classes you took in undergrad only scratched the surface 😀

I'd say take it anyways. If you're planning on being a dentist, liking biology is a plus. Might as well take the high school version, that way when someone says something about epithelial tissue in your intro bio class for undergrad you won't be like "???"

Also, if you can find a medical terminology class to take either in high school or at the start of college, do it!

I can either take the anatomy or the medical term. I think I could teach myself medical term though.

 

[NMC2010]

You can most likely take med-term as an easy online class once you start undergrad, so take the anatomy.

 

[PointEstimate]

Myron Rolle is going to medical school this fall as part of the 2017 class. Not to knock on D1 FCS football, but he graduated with a 3.75 and earned a Rhodes Scholarship while playing with the Big Boys at FSU. It can be done, taking a full courseload while playing a sport; it just takes a ton of discipline. While he's obviously an exception, he can be something to aspire to. If he can do it at that level, what's stopping you from doing what you want to do at yours. He's just a man, just like you are, nothing special, nothing more. He just happened to want something (an NFL and medical career) and worked really hard. Anyone can do that; lots of people say that they want something really bad. Few people actually work hard enough to get it done.

I was a D1 athlete and realized a little late that the things you learn on the field matter less than what you learned about the process of getting to that elite level. I was really committed to the sport I played and wanted to win a national championship. My 3rd year, we won but that excitement of winning pretty much lasted as long as the flight back home. It wasn't really enough of an accomplishment to justify my undergraduate experience and I wish I accomplished more. While I graduated in 3 years, I had to go to a masters program before getting into dental school. It was in grad school that I realized that those really cheesy things that coaches say like "accountability", "commitment", and "character" weren't just things you did because you wanted to win the race or the game but something that you do because you want to compete in other aspects of your life.

I don't regret the challenges that I created for myself because I overestimated my academic abilities coming into undergraduate (although it would have been a hell of a lot easier if I did it right the first time). I learned a lot about myself - how far and hard I was willing to push myself, how important humility is, what it means to want something so bad you can't let yourself come short. What I found helpful was treating academics like I did training. Set mini-goals for yourself (checklists of things I wanted to get done for classes worked for me, so not "I will study for 2 hours for orgo and 1 hour for bio each night, rather I want to understand the difference between SN1 and SN2 or I want to know the flow of blood in a mammal). Don't waste time during the day because you're tired and want to nap; take advantage of the time between practice and weights or whatever. Learn how to pick you battles and get by with little sleep; basically make sacrifices. But also reward yourself, don't just be a machine. Have somewhat of a social life. You can't go out every weekend but you can still have a little fun so you don't burn out.

Lastly, I agree with the posts above. The exposure you get in HS with anatomy and physiology is so superficial to what you'll learn in college. More than anything, use high school as a time to learn about the way you learn. Figure out the most efficient way you study and retain material. That'll make transitioning to college a hell of a lot easier, at least academically.

 

[BcWildcat]

Myron Rolle is going to medical school this fall as part of the 2017 class. Not to knock on D1 FCS football, but he graduated with a 3.75 and earned a Rhodes Scholarship while playing with the Big Boys at FSU. It can be done, taking a full courseload while playing a sport; it just takes a ton of discipline. While he's obviously an exception, he can be something to aspire to. If he can do it at that level, what's stopping you from doing what you want to do at yours. He's just a man, just like you are, nothing special, nothing more. He just happened to want something (an NFL and medical career) and worked really hard. Anyone can do that; lots of people say that they want something really bad. Few people actually work hard enough to get it done.

I was a D1 athlete and realized a little late that the things you learn on the field matter less than what you learned about the process of getting to that elite level. I was really committed to the sport I played and wanted to win a national championship. My 3rd year, we won but that excitement of winning pretty much lasted as long as the flight back home. It wasn't really enough of an accomplishment to justify my undergraduate experience and I wish I accomplished more. While I graduated in 3 years, I had to go to a masters program before getting into dental school. It was in grad school that I realized that those really cheesy things that coaches say like "accountability", "commitment", and "character" weren't just things you did because you wanted to win the race or the game but something that you do because you want to compete in other aspects of your life.

I don't regret the challenges that I created for myself because I overestimated my academic abilities coming into undergraduate (although it would have been a hell of a lot easier if I did it right the first time). I learned a lot about myself - how far and hard I was willing to push myself, how important humility is, what it means to want something so bad you can't let yourself come short. What I found helpful was treating academics like I did training. Set mini-goals for yourself (checklists of things I wanted to get done for classes worked for me, so not "I will study for 2 hours for orgo and 1 hour for bio each night, rather I want to understand the difference between SN1 and SN2 or I want to know the flow of blood in a mammal). Don't waste time during the day because you're tired and want to nap; take advantage of the time between practice and weights or whatever. Learn how to pick you battles and get by with little sleep; basically make sacrifices. But also reward yourself, don't just be a machine. Have somewhat of a social life. You can't go out every weekend but you can still have a little fun so you don't burn out.

Lastly, I agree with the posts above. The exposure you get in HS with anatomy and physiology is so superficial to what you'll learn in college. More than anything, use high school as a time to learn about the way you learn. Figure out the most efficient way you study and retain material. That'll make transitioning to college a hell of a lot easier, at least academically.

wow, great response. I just don't know if football would make my application look better. I want to play, (if I was 3 inches taller id play with the big boys) XD would it be worth the risk of academics?

 

[PointEstimate]

Being a D1 athlete is something I do not regret, but grades and DAT scores are king. They get you the interview, which is when I was able to talk about the lessons my sport taught me and it was something unique-ish. I say play, but make sure you still take care of business in the classroom.