Can my program revoke my internship rotations credit?

[anonobanano]

I am a surgical resident and was accepted for a transfer position into my dream program. After informing my current program, they initially approved my transfer. I have passed all my intern year rotations here and have received stellar reviews. The transfer position is contingent upon finish my internship here.

Suddenly, my program went back on their word and is trying to revoke me of credit for my internship. Is this legal after I already passed the rotations? Can this actually happen and I be left with nothing?
Is my program required to send my GME rotations to the new program?

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[DrMetal]

Suddenly, my program went back on their word and is trying to revoke me of credit for my internship.

You need to give little more details. Why would they suddenly revoke credit for your entire internship? Did you fail something, harass someone? Did you come out as a Lakers fan in the Northeast?

 

[anonobanano]

You need to give little more details. Why would they suddenly revoke credit for your entire internship? Did you fail something, harass someone? Did you come out as a Lakers fan in the Northeast?

I don't know... I have performed very well, have great reviews. I don't have a lot of other details to share anonymously other than it was after I informed them of my transfer.

 

[LucidSplash]

I don't know... I have performed very well, have great reviews. I don't have a lot of other details to share anonymously other than it was after I informed them of my transfer.

Without more details, no one here can help you. Sounds like you need to have a discussion with your PD and the GME office.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Is it at the old PD's discretion or the new PD's discretion whether or not someone gets credit?

You posted this question from the other thread. The answer is complicated.

If you're switching specialties, then the new PD decides how much of your old credit can get transferred.
If you're staying in the same specialty, then (in general) your old PD decides how much credit you get. But I expect the new PD might be able to override that.
If you're completing a prelim year for some advanced specialty, then the old PD will ceritfy that.

It's really petty of them to make an issue of this. You should print out all of your evaluations now. They might cut off your access, or edit them. Het hard copies of everything, or save digital copies to a cloud drive you have access to. If they were to take some employment action, you can find all of your email and other computer access cut off instantly.

 

[anonobanano]

You posted this question from the other thread. The answer is complicated.

If you're switching specialties, then the new PD decides how much of your old credit can get transferred.
If you're staying in the same specialty, then (in general) your old PD decides how much credit you get. But I expect the new PD might be able to override that.
If you're completing a prelim year for some advanced specialty, then the old PD will ceritfy that.

It's really petty of them to make an issue of this. You should print out all of your evaluations now. They might cut off your access, or edit them. Het hard copies of everything, or save digital copies to a cloud drive you have access to. If they were to take some employment action, you can find all of your email and other computer access cut off instantly.

Thanks for the advice. I might just have to start logging my true hours, which are violations, since they wanna be petty. Can you confirm, is my program required to send my summative evaluation to the new program?

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Well, you could do that (log your hours accurately). And you should be doing that. But then when your hours are out of whack with everyone else's, they can claim that you're inefficient and performing poorly. So proceed with caution.

Yes, in general a program is required to send information when you request it. What that might contain is anyone's guess. And if they refuse to do so, or just are so slow that it causes you problems, you don't have many good options. The courts are very slow and work on glacial time.

 

[ThoracicGuy]

Thanks for the advice. I might just have to start logging my true hours, which are violations, since they wanna be petty. Can you confirm, is my program required to send my summative evaluation to the new program?

They can always hurt you more...

 

[anonobanano]

They can always hurt you more...

Good point.

 

[mistafab]

Great points in this thread.

Do: print out all your evaluations. Any emails related to your performance. Any hard copies of evidence that so far you've done well. All your metrics. All your ACGME required competency checkpoints thus far.

Do: keep things as amicable as possible with your current PD. Be as helpful and friendly as possible. Follow their steps to anything that does not work towards your detriment. Be open and available to the new PD and pretty much do anything they ask of you so they can help sort anything out with your current PD.

Do not: retaliate in any way, shape, or form. Do not act out or start changing behavior drastically.

If you are retaliated against down the road for going to a different program, having hard copies and keeping your behavior as professional as possible will only help you if you need to file for discriminatory employment practices, whistle-blow, get higher ups involved, etc. PD's really have a lot of power to sink you if they want to. Give them no reason at all to do so from here on out. Be a model citizen. Only resist on paper and along formal, permissible methods if needed. Help your future PD help you as much as you can.