Starting case list preparation, any do's/don'ts or common mistakes anyone might suggest to do/avoid?
Case list preparation
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There's really too many things to mention about case list preparation. Some basics, though, are pretty much common sense. Keep up with your cases, be as brief as possible when making your list ("weed out" the unnecessary/irrelevant information), don't wait until the last minute, make multiple revisions (this is not the time to save trees), have your list reviewed by "experienced" people, and by all means DO NOT LIE.
There are several resources out there to help you in your preparations, including a somewhat useful Oral Boards Prep book by Anita Krishna Das (available on amazon.com), several prep courses (Dr. Wall, Exampro, Osler, etc), mentors at your old residency program, and colleagues that have recently presented the Oral Boards. Be selective in who you go to for advice and be prepared to hear a variety of differing opinions. In the end and despite which resources you use, it will ultimately be only your efforts that will make or break your list. Case list prep courses are by no means a "must", but they are indeed extremely helpful in getting an experienced perspective on how to perfect your list. I definitely recommend them if you have the time and means to attend.
Once you are done, make sure you submit a flawless list. Make sure that all typos and grammatical/spelling errors are eliminated and that all used abbreviations are approved by ABOG (a list of these is provided on their website and in their Oral Boards pamphlet). Remember that your list represents you and how you practice and that it provides a "first impression" to your examiners. A poorly or carelessly constructed list can easily put your examiners in a bad mood before they even meet you. Contrary to popular belief, a great list will not pass you. A poor one, however, can set you up for failure.
There are many more things to mention, but not enough time to address all of them. Make sure you continue to ask around and good luck with your collection.
There are several resources out there to help you in your preparations, including a somewhat useful Oral Boards Prep book by Anita Krishna Das (available on amazon.com), several prep courses (Dr. Wall, Exampro, Osler, etc), mentors at your old residency program, and colleagues that have recently presented the Oral Boards. Be selective in who you go to for advice and be prepared to hear a variety of differing opinions. In the end and despite which resources you use, it will ultimately be only your efforts that will make or break your list. Case list prep courses are by no means a "must", but they are indeed extremely helpful in getting an experienced perspective on how to perfect your list. I definitely recommend them if you have the time and means to attend.
Once you are done, make sure you submit a flawless list. Make sure that all typos and grammatical/spelling errors are eliminated and that all used abbreviations are approved by ABOG (a list of these is provided on their website and in their Oral Boards pamphlet). Remember that your list represents you and how you practice and that it provides a "first impression" to your examiners. A poorly or carelessly constructed list can easily put your examiners in a bad mood before they even meet you. Contrary to popular belief, a great list will not pass you. A poor one, however, can set you up for failure.
There are many more things to mention, but not enough time to address all of them. Make sure you continue to ask around and good luck with your collection.
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Follow jvarga's great tips & refer (often) to the guidelines (pages 30-57) below:
http://abog.org/bulletins/BAS2009.pdf
Remember to check the abbreviations as that is one of the most common reasons your caselist gets rejected. Are you a fellow or practitioner? I ask as the rules differ a little if you are a fellow.
Best of luck!
http://abog.org/bulletins/BAS2009.pdf
Remember to check the abbreviations as that is one of the most common reasons your caselist gets rejected. Are you a fellow or practitioner? I ask as the rules differ a little if you are a fellow.
Best of luck!
I am offering a free service to any candidate who has a concern regarding a case on their OBGYN case list. I am an FACOG and CEO of ExamPro, and have been helping candidates fro almost 20 years (with great successs). Please forward any questions to [email protected].
Good luck in your exams.
Good luck in your exams.
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Passing your orals is a huge ordeal. It takes months of preparation.
I would strongly urge a professional review of your case list.
These professionals (see my sticky post above) have helped
hundreds of candidates and are well versed on how to word your case-list.
Even better they help YOU take control by forcing the examiners to look at points you'd like to discuss.
Wouldn't it be nice to lead your examiner to a case you've been really prepared to answer instead of answering a question on Mullerian anomalies?
While the price can defer many I would urge you to consider trying it out.... as CoachS has offered.
Good luck
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I would strongly urge a professional review of your case list.
These professionals (see my sticky post above) have helped
hundreds of candidates and are well versed on how to word your case-list.
Even better they help YOU take control by forcing the examiners to look at points you'd like to discuss.
Wouldn't it be nice to lead your examiner to a case you've been really prepared to answer instead of answering a question on Mullerian anomalies?
While the price can defer many I would urge you to consider trying it out.... as CoachS has offered.
Good luck
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Thank you for the replies and helpful comments.
The biggest hurdle is getting the case list to look clean and standardized
(ie Undesired fertility, Desires sterilization ie Ovary 8cm and 8cm ovary).
After its done comes the hard work.... I just reviewed some info that I found interesting and wanted to pass it on.
http://www.exampro.com/boards/listItems.asp?idCategory=98&clasification=orals
oral exam course to help you prepare plus great blog and you-tube videos
http://www.acog.org/member_access/lists/practbul.cfm
new practice bulletins
http://americasboardreview.com/oral_exams/workshops_abog_oral.shtml
case of the day workshops focuses on the other 50% of the oral exam
http://www.obgynboardprep.com/course_description.htm#4
webinars- an interesting concept a on line course that views your case list on line letting you study and do mock exams in the comfort of your home
((for a free invite PM me with your email address courses are 9pm-11pm EST Mon-Thurs))
Good luck
The biggest hurdle is getting the case list to look clean and standardized
(ie Undesired fertility, Desires sterilization ie Ovary 8cm and 8cm ovary).
After its done comes the hard work.... I just reviewed some info that I found interesting and wanted to pass it on.
http://www.exampro.com/boards/listItems.asp?idCategory=98&clasification=orals
oral exam course to help you prepare plus great blog and you-tube videos
http://www.acog.org/member_access/lists/practbul.cfm
new practice bulletins
http://americasboardreview.com/oral_exams/workshops_abog_oral.shtml
case of the day workshops focuses on the other 50% of the oral exam
http://www.obgynboardprep.com/course_description.htm#4
webinars- an interesting concept a on line course that views your case list on line letting you study and do mock exams in the comfort of your home
((for a free invite PM me with your email address courses are 9pm-11pm EST Mon-Thurs))
Good luck
