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Stressed doctor cuts off patient's penis


By Michael Leidig in Bucharest, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:02am GMT 21/01/2007


A Romanian doctor who hacked off a patient's penis during surgery before slicing it into pieces has claimed he was suffering from stress.
Naum Ciomu, 58, was operating on the man to correct a testicular malformation when he lost his temper. Grabbing a scalpel, he sliced off the penis in front of amazed nursing staff, then cut it into three pieces before storming out of the operating theatre at the Panduri Urology Hospital in Bucharest.
A Romanian court has ordered Prof Ciomu to pay £100,000 damages and £20,000 costs to the victim, Nelu Radonescu, a 36-year-old builder.
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"The trauma has left a deep mark both physically and psychologically," said Mr Radonescu. "It is hard for a man who wants to have sex, yet lacks the organ. My wife is the best thing I have."
The medical costs will be covered by the hospital's insurer, but doctors' unions have criticised the court's decision to make Prof Ciomu pay the damages personally. The unions claim the case could set a dangerous precedent, and doctors may refuse to carry out operations for fear of making a mistake. They said Prof Ciomu, a urologist and lecturer in anatomy, had been punished enough by having his medical licence suspended.
Dr Braticevici Bogdan, a former colleague of the disgraced doctor, said: "The amount of the damages is disproportionate compared with the doctors' salaries and the living standards in Romania." Senior hospital doctors may earn no more than £500 a month.
The surgeon told a court he lost his temper after he accidentally cut the patient's urinary channel. He said it was a loss of judgement due to personal problems.
Mr Radonescu will use the compensation to pay for an operation to rebuild his penis, using tissue from his arm."It will never be the same, but if I am even a quarter of the man I was, I will still be very content," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/21/wpenis21.xml

I like how the victim manages to boast about how big his now non-existent penis was.
 
I don't think that's what he was referring to

You've got to admit it was an interesting choice of words though, and the juxtaposition of the quote in the article further adds to the effect.

Anyway, I meant to post this in the premed forum, seeing as this article is already referenced here. Could someone move it please?
 
Sounds only fair that the compensation should have to come out of the surgeon's own pocket, considering that it wasn't just poor medical practice, but intentional criminal assault. However, it would be more just to the patient if the hospital and its insurers paid him directly, otherwise, I doubt if he'll be able to collect in a timely manner. According to the article the judgment is about 10 years of meager (former) pay from a doctor who is no longer employable.

The award comes out to just under 200,000 US$. Not much, considering how the patient was affected. $12,000/yr for senior hospital doctors?! Wow! I knew they made MUCH less there. That's below our Federal Poverty Level for a two person household!

Why is there no mention of criminal charges being filed?
 
WTF? And the local doctor's union is upset he should pay damages. Give me a break.

I am all for malpractice reform, don't get me wrong, but I am willing to concede that the surgeon cutting off a man's junk and dicing it like a cucumber just because he was "stressed" is a little more than a mistake. I have no worries that I will ever do something like this so any doctor who does should pay.
 
WTF? And the local doctor's union is upset he should pay damages. Give me a break.

I am all for malpractice reform, don't get me wrong, but I am willing to concede that the surgeon cutting off a man's junk and dicing it like a cucumber just because he was "stressed" is a little more than a mistake. I have no worries that I will ever do something like this so any doctor who does should pay.
If I were the patient, I'd find the doctor and show him what "an eye for an eye" means in this situation.
 
If I were the patient, I'd find the doctor and show him what "an eye for an eye" means in this situation.

I agree. The punishment must fit the crime.
 
The award comes out to just under 200,000 US$. Not much, considering how the patient was affected. $12,000/yr for senior hospital doctors?! Wow! I knew they made MUCH less there. That's below our Federal Poverty Level for a two person household!
I'm sure when you factor in the Purchasing Power Parity, $12,000 in Romania would probably equate to a helluvalot more.
 
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That's really awful 😡. That surgeon isn't fit to even touch humans, yet alone operate on them. He should be sent to prison and banned from the medical practice.
 
WTF? And the local doctor's union is upset he should pay damages. Give me a break.

I am all for malpractice reform, don't get me wrong, but I am willing to concede that the surgeon cutting off a man's junk and dicing it like a cucumber just because he was "stressed" is a little more than a mistake. I have no worries that I will ever do something like this so any doctor who does should pay.


I think that the action belongs in the realm of criminal intent, and not because he was stressed. Yes, the victim should be compensated, but the surgeon doesn't belong in practice and should be criminally prosecuted as well.

I am also surprised that doctors are only paid the equivalent of $12,000 in Romania.
 
I am canceling my elective procedure that I had scheduled in Bucharest that's for sure.




The doctor is lucky that he only has to pay a little money and not serve 10-15 years in a Romanian prison.
 
I'm sure when you factor in the Purchasing Power Parity, $12,000 in Romania would probably equate to a helluvalot more.

I think you might be surprised. Its not below the poverty line in Romania but I'm sure its nothing extravagant. Doctors in public hospitals here get around 25-30k Euros per year, which puts them in a higher tax bracket, but is only about 4 times minimum the minimum wage. Imagine if MDs in the US got paid 4 times the minimum wage.
 
I think you might be surprised. Its not below the poverty line in Romania but I'm sure its nothing extravagant. Doctors in public hospitals here get around 25-30k Euros per year, which puts them in a higher tax bracket, but is only about 4 times minimum the minimum wage. Imagine if MDs in the US got paid 4 times the minimum wage.

In europe most doctors go to school for less years and also pay less for their schooling if anything.
 
Imagine if MDs in the US got paid 4 times the minimum wage.
Maybe people interested in really helping people would become doctors. Not sure if these would necessarily be the best doctors though.
 
In europe most doctors go to school for less years and also pay less for their schooling if anything.

Actually they go to school for more years. Medical school all over Europe is 6 years generally, followed by a residency that might be +/- one or two years from the American equivalent, for the most part. Also, whether they pay less for their schooling is irrelevant when you compare the difference in salary. An American doctor can pay off his loans no problem and still have plenty left over.

Maybe people interested in really helping people would become doctors. Not sure if these would necessarily be the best doctors though.

I'm not sure I agree that high salaries are what guarantee that med schools would attract competent doctors. Is dermatology more intellectually demanding than other less competitive fields? Med schools already reject plenty of qualified applicants who if accepted would probably go on to make good doctors. I think wanting to become a doctor is a function of sincere interest and perceived lifestyle (money + hours). If either one is too low then you won't pursue medicine but otherwise one will make up for the other to some degree.

I think 4 times the min wage is crazy though. That would be about 28 dollars an hour here or 67k per year untaxed with 3 weeks vacation working 50 hrs a week (54k for 40 hr weeks). Even with a free medical education + living expenses that probably would not be enough to convince enough students in this country to spend 4 more years in school + residency.
 
Drogba that was a nice goal against Schalke last night.
 
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Their med school is shorter than our college + med school route.

That is true. We do have some 6 year combines BA/BS and MD as I'm sure you know, but they are not the traditional route so point taken. Let me mention however that where my parents are from it is common for doctors to wait ~2 years to get placed into the residency of their choice after they graduate from med school. During this time it is not common for them to be unemployed. We also have a lot of unemployed specialists. Imagine that. It was a completely foreign concept to me.
 
Maybe people interested in really helping people would become doctors. Not sure if these would necessarily be the best doctors though.

hahaha
 
note to self: do not get surgery in Bucharest.
 
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