CCF vs Case

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Hello everyone, I am wondering if anyone can compare CCF vs Case interms of their IM programs. Which program has the better fellowship match rate, which program has the best oppurtunity to learn. What do the matched residents numbers look like. Any feedback is appreciated.
 
I actually posted a thread during my interview trail about CCF vs. Case vs. Loyola (page 2 of the IM forum). There was a lot of good input. What I decided:

1) Case - good national reputation and from what I remember, their fellowship match was pretty impressive (last year 1 to CCF for Cards, 1 to Yale for GI) for small class (~20 something categoricals in the class). PD is awesome and very approachable it seems. Great NIH research funding. Overall a very good IM residency. I ranked this program over CCF just because I felt like there was more exposure to indigent care and more autonomy (not so fellow-driven).

2) CCF - it's hard to refute the quality of CCF's fellowships. As for its IM reputation, my impression was that it's so-so. I think for cards they matched 57 in the last 4 years which numbers-wise is great, but only 8 or so stayed on at CCF, 24 went to other great programs, and the rest went to other less "prestigious" programs. For GI they matched well too. They have a good number of IMG's and DO's there, and they are all bright. PD is approachable. I actually enjoyed my interview day here more so than at Case because the residents were all super laid back. I did get the impression that fellows ran the show a bit, but all the residents I talked to denied it.

In the end, I ended up ranking other programs above both Case and CCF because of location, personal feelings and my sig. other's preference. But in conclusion what I would say is that Case has a better IM reputation but CCF obviously has better fellowships. If you want to match into Cards (but not necessarily at CCF), I would go with CCF because of the sheer number of residents they match. However, if you choose Case, you will have a good shot of matching as well. Good luck!
 
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I actually posted a thread during my interview trail about CCF vs. Case vs. Loyola (page 2 of the IM forum). There was a lot of good input. What I decided:

1) Case - good national reputation and from what I remember, their fellowship match was pretty impressive (last year 1 to CCF for Cards, 1 to Yale for GI) for small class (~20 something categoricals in the class). PD is awesome and very approachable it seems. Great NIH research funding. Overall a very good IM residency. I ranked this program over CCF just because I felt like there was more exposure to indigent care and more autonomy (not so fellow-driven).

2) CCF - it's hard to refute the quality of CCF's fellowships. As for its IM reputation, my impression was that it's so-so. I think for cards they matched 57 in the last 4 years which numbers-wise is great, but only 8 or so stayed on at CCF, 24 went to other great programs, and the rest went to other less "prestigious" programs. For GI they matched well too. They have a good number of IMG's and DO's there, and they are all bright. PD is approachable. I actually enjoyed my interview day here more so than at Case because the residents were all super laid back. I did get the impression that fellows ran the show a bit, but all the residents I talked to denied it.

In the end, I ended up ranking other programs above both Case and CCF because of location, personal feelings and my sig. other's preference. But in conclusion what I would say is that Case has a better IM reputation but CCF obviously has better fellowships. If you want to match into Cards (but not necessarily at CCF), I would go with CCF because of the sheer number of residents they match. However, if you choose Case, you will have a good shot of matching as well. Good luck!


Thank you for your reply, any advice on interview at both places
 
Thank you for your reply, any advice on interview at both places

I'm not entirely sure what you mean...but if you are asking how the interviews went at both places, they were both pretty relaxed. No hard questions (at least when I was there) and it was more like a conversation. You have two interviewers at CCF and three at Case (if I remember correctly). I think both programs are equally selective for interviews, maybe Case > CCF (a couple of people at CCF had not gotten interviews at Case when I was there). However, CCF intern #'s for Step 1 and 2 are in the 90's (so I was told). Hope this helps.
 
Thank you for the reply, is 90 considerd high on the USMLE?
 
Thank you for the reply, is 90 considerd high on the USMLE?

It's about average I believe. For medicine, it won't close doors to most programs but it won't necessarily open the majestic gold-leaf embedded doors of JHU, MGH, UCSF, etc. At CCF or Case, they don't require a Step II CK score to rank you (at least I don't think they do) so if your Step I is solid (90 or above) you should be good for both programs.
 
thanks for your reply
Could someone talk a little bit about why CCF is not respected for IM but its fellowships are highly regarded.
 
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