Celebrating The 2nd Amendment One Fine Firearm At A Time

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I don't think anyone has the balls to try that. That's guaranteed political suicide for every senator except for maybe the ones from MA, NY, and The People's Socialist Republic of Kalifornistan.

Hahaha. That’s exactly why it will never ever happen.

Seems like the 2A worked just as planned

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Those CA lawmakers are at it again:

 

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resurrecting this thread because I'm certain folks here will have an answer to something that has eluded me in 20 minutes of contradictory web-searching:

can you openly carry an unloaded handgun in california?

Open carry is only allowed in CA in unincorporated areas. Desert? Yes. Anywhere else? Probably not.

"Carrying and Transportation in Vehicles
It is unlawful to carry a loaded rifle, shotgun, or handgun in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated area or an area where firing a firearm is prohibited. Furthermore the open carry of any handgun, loaded or unloaded in an incorporated area has now been banned.

In California, a firearm is considered loaded if unexpended ammunition capable of being used in the firearm is in a position from which it can be fired. The following persons and situations are exceptions:

• persons shooting on target ranges, or while hunting on the premises of a shooting club.
• a person who reasonably believes that he or his property is in immediate danger and the weapon must be carried for “preservation.”
• a person “engaged in the act of making or attempting lawful arrest.”
• a person carrying a firearm while at home or at his place of business, including temporary residences and campsites.

Carrying a handgun concealed is prohibited without a license. The law has now changed to ban the open carry of handguns in incorporated areas, loaded or unloaded."

However, as a bird-law enthusiast, I would argue that anytime I'm in CA, I meet the criteria for exception #2. And they seem to have an intentionally vague definition of "loaded" firearm. So if I don't have a round in the chamber, it's not technically loaded by their standards...a round existing outside the chamber is functionally not in a position from which it can be fired. And even further, one could theoretically carry a handgun with a dummy round in the chamber and a full magazine and still be in compliance with their definition of an unloaded firearm. Now they can't argue that there's a 0.000001% chance the non-chambered round slip into the chamber.