Medical Chances for DO school?

Started by Lee
Get help with your application

Use all the free resources available to you from SDN: articles, guides, expert advising, forums discussions, and school research.

Status
Not open for further replies.

Lee

Welcome to SDN
Staff member
Administrator
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad
On behalf of my friend, she would like to have a consultation about her chances in getting into DO medical schools this cycle. She’s currently very stressed to retake her MCAT in a month for the third time.

First MCAT: 497 (taken May 2018)
Second MCAT: 495 (taken July 2018)
Third MCAT is scheduled on 1/18/2019. She just began her Kaplan prep 1 and half week ago along with part-time for about 20 - 25 hours a week. She previously used Nextstep and did not really like that prep, and she was working full-time.

Her cGPA is 2.9, sGPA was 2.8. She did go through a postbac/special masters program where her pbcGPA was 3.8 and her pbsGPA was 3.75.

Altogether cGPA would be 3.2 and sGPA would be 3 - 3.1.

She has some volunteering experiences at the nursing home for about 50 hours. She’s shadowed a DO physician for 30 hours. She’s also done EMT shadowing and Jury duties. The postbac program she did also had research and she wrote a thesis for that. Went on a study abroad service trip in Guatemala for 2 weeks. She works as a nail technician full time.
Her undergrad overall GPA and sGPA are low as is her MCAT score. So, post-bacc was a good move for her. It will help significantly.

Biggest issue right now is the MCAT score. If it doesn't go well in January, she should consider setting a large block of time for dedicated MCAT studying -- basically make it her full-time job.

My recommendation is to retake the MCAT, but I'm concerned that she doesn't have sufficient time to properly study for it based on it being just a few weeks away and also working 20+ hours/week. When I took the MCAT, I did well, but it took 2-months of dedicated studying using a course. I did 30-40 hours per week of intensive studying. Each person is different in their study style and recall ability, but based on her prior scores; it would be best to commit entirely to the test.
 
Hi there, just wanted to add my opinion!

I agree with Lee in that the MCAT score is likely the culprit, though some of her experiences may also be lacking. Ordinarily that wouldn't present too much of a problem, but overall it is definitely a weaker application. The fact that she did well in her post-bacc/SMP is reassuring, but the rest of her app not so much. Here are the things she needs to address:

1. The MCAT. Her MCAT scores are both below 50th percentile, and she actually went down during her second MCAT. If she wants to re-take the MCAT, she absolutely positively has to improve by several points. A third MCAT in the same range would be a death knell. The MCAT is a hard exam and for some people not something that they are able to study for while working even part time. Your friend needs to understand that in order to be a successful medical school applicant, she needs to do well on her MCAT. If that means not working at all and studying full time for several months, then that's the route she needs to take. If that is not possible with her current financial situation, I would advise NOT taking the MCAT a third time in January and instead working full time and trying to save up enough money to be able to not work for at least 2 months. Doing this half-way has seemed to not need to work for her twice, and a third poor attempt means she probably will never go to medical school. Medical schools are not going anywhere and so if her timeline is extended even by a year or two because of this, it would be infinitely preferable to the alternative, as long as her ultimate goal here is becoming a doctor.

2. Her experiences are a little lackluster. As I said before, with a strong GPA/MCAT combination, they would be borderline acceptable, but 50 hours of clinical experience is well below the average (100+ is what I recommend minimum, but many applicants have more than that). This needs to be active, participatory experience, not shadowing (which is important too, but she has an adequate amount of shadowing). EMT shadowing doesn't hold much weight (actually being an EMT would, but shadowing doesn't) and I wouldn't even list jury duty on her application. The Guatemala service trip will likely be looked at neutrally. If you put all that together, she doesn't have a strong non-academic profile, which is not doing her any favors. This is still secondary to the MCAT, but it is something she will need to address eventually. The clinical experience does not need to be volunteer experience. She can work as a scribe, or an EMT, or a patient care tech, or a nursing aide, or anything like that as long as she's working with patients. Medical schools understand that people have to work to make a living, but they also need to know that you are motivated by service to others and know what you're getting into.

3. The fact that she did well in her post-bacc is reassuring, and she likely will not have to take any more classes to augment her GPA as long as she does well on her next MCAT retake and addresses her extracurriculars.

4. She should really be applying to every DO school in the country. She is not the type of applicant that can afford to be picky when it comes to schools.

So in order of priority #1 is taking the MCAT and doing well on it (preferably after 2 months of full time studying and multiple practice exam scores above 500), #2 is expanding her extracurricular profile, and #3 is choosing a more appropriate school list.

I want to reiterate this one more time because in my opinion it is a life or death difference for her application but she should not take the MCAT again without demonstrable evidence that her score will improve (which to me means multiple practice exams above 500).

Happy to answer any questions. Your friend is in a tight spot, but not one that can't be navigated and overcome. I wish her only the best of luck in this process.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.