Changing DEA "fee exempt" to "fee paid"

[captaincrunch]

Here's a technical question for you guys: I currently have a "fee exempt" DEA number which is only valid in my scope of practice as a resident. I'm applying for jobs once I leave residency and will need a "fee paid" DEA number in order to get credentials and start working as an attending. How does one go about changing from fee exempt to fee paid? I can't find anything online, but I'm sure a number of people have had to do this before.

Cheers!

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[Arch Guillotti]

Here's a technical question for you guys: I currently have a "fee exempt" DEA number which is only valid in my scope of practice as a resident. I'm applying for jobs once I leave residency and will need a "fee paid" DEA number in order to get credentials and start working as an attending. How does one go about changing from fee exempt to fee paid? I can't find anything online, but I'm sure a number of people have had to do this before.

Cheers!

I am not familiar with those terms but before I finished residency I got my own DEA number at the doj website:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/index.html

or the application is here:

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/webforms/jsp/regapps/common/newAppLogin.jsp

 

[captaincrunch]

I know how to apply for a DEA number; it's changing the status before the expiration date that is giving me trouble. Any residents who are moonlighting would have had to change their status as well. Any help would be appreciated?

 

[tkim]

I had to apply for my own DEA number and paid a fee. At my program we are assigned a 5 digit rider to add to the institutional DEA number.

 

[Pir8DeacDoc]

I had to apply for my own DEA number and paid a fee. At my program we are assigned a 5 digit rider to add to the institutional DEA number.

That's correct... You get a totally new DEA. Your residency DEA is specific to your institution.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

I know how to apply for a DEA number; it's changing the status before the expiration date that is giving me trouble. Any residents who are moonlighting would have had to change their status as well. Any help would be appreciated?

I guess I don't really understand what you are saying then. When I was moonlighting during residency I didn't fool w/ DEA stuff. If you are going to moonlight "on your own" such as in an urgent care or rural ED AFAIK you need to get your own number. And you need your own number when you finish residency, the application for which I have posted in the link above.

 

[gutonc]

Yes, you need to start from scratch and get a completely new DEA #. The app is pretty benign, aside from the $551 fee.

 

[Samoa]

Some programs have you apply for your own DEA (non-institutional, but fee exempt) as an intern. So you don't use the hospital's DEA+extension like you do at some other places.

I've heard of the DEA changing the second letter while keeping the remainder of the digits the same, for female doctors who legally change their last names. But I don't know if you can keep the same DEA and just change it from fee exempt to fee paid.

It would suck if you can't, though.

 

[Samoa]

Well, I just looked over the DEA application site, and it looks to me like you can just renew it.

In order to get fee exempt status, there's an extra step involved, so it appears you can just use the renewal application, change the address to your new practice site, skip the fee exemption verification step, pay the renewal fee, and keep the number you got as a resident (if it was an individual license, and not the hospital DEA + trainee extension).

 

[captaincrunch]

Okay, I was able to find the answer to my own question, so I'll give it to you all here in case someone else was wondering.

To clarify, a "fee exempt" DEA number is not an institutional number. It is for fully licensed residents. The fee is waived if your residency program participates in the program with the DEA, provided the resident doesn't use the DEA number for activities outside of their residency. If the resident chooses to moonlight or (in my case) becomes an attending, they need the regular "fee paid."

For this reason, you cannot apply for a new number; the website will say a DEA number has already be generated for you. Also, you cannot renew online; this is only allowed within 60 days of expiration.

The solution: You have to call the DEA and complete a form changing the status of your DEA number and pay the regular $551 fee. Hope this helps.

 

[QueenOfBlades]

Old post, but bringing it back up since I just had to go through this and thought an update would be helpful...

Per the email I received from the DEA when I emailed them asking how to go about doing this, there are two ways to do it...

1. Submit a new application online at www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov and, if approved, will result in the issuance of a new DWA registration certificate marked "FEE PAID" and bearing a NEW DEA NUMBER and expiration date (initially 28 to 29 months).

2. Complete the form they send you and pay the $731 registration fee. Your current DEA registration certificate will be changed to refled "FEE PAID." The current expiration date does NOT change.

Hope it helps!

 

[dpmd]

The expiration date not changing was what made me decide to get a new number. However, be sure to formally ask them to retire your other number or you will receive a renewal notice for your old one and if you are like me and forget that you have more than one number you will be in for a surprise when the following year your current number comes up for renewal. After phone calls I ended up paying to renew my current number and wrote a letter begging them to refund me the other fee so I didn't waste the money. Thankfully they did, but they are not obligated to (and it took a month or so for the refund to come) so best to avoid that.