


I chose the "cheap school" and don't regret it. Quite frankly you don't have enough free time to really notice some of the things that seem uber important to you as a pre-matriculant. No matter where you are you are likely to be reading the same board review books sitting in a library or a study room for most of your first two years learning exactly the same material. There are a few things that I would prioritize over cost, I would pay more to avoid PBL, if there were personal family ties to a particular region/location, or if one school had vastly superior clinical experience. Beyond that I don't think it really will make that big of a difference wherever you end up. All US allo schools are certified by the same people and they are all preparing you for the same USMLE exam. You'll make great friends wherever you are, you'll study till your eyes bleed, you'll get to do some awesome stuff in the clinicals along with some horrid hours and mindless scut, etc.
This it the typical pre-med answer and I am totally not knocking you for it. I think a lot of people feel the same way while they're applying. It's impossible for most people to fathom what it feels like to get a $43,000 tuition bill several years in a row and know that it's continually accruing interest all throughout your training. But after being in med school for a while (and especially after they get out!), many people start to think differently. When you are an MD or DO, do you plan to continue living like you would as a medical student? Probably you will want a nice house, a nice car. Maybe you will want to get married and have children. You will want to buy things for your family and take nice vacations. These things are expensive. Yes, doctors make good money, but you cannot spend your money on the things you want when you have to send a huge chunk of your salary to Uncle Sam and Sallie Mae. This is why just about every med student and doctor you meet will bemoan the debt they are in and tell you to go to the cheapest place. Being in six figure debt hurts more in the long run than many pre-meds can imagine. If you can do something to avoid it, you should unless attending the cheaper school will be totally intolerable to you.You have to remember that while you may incur a huge amount of debt due to med school, you're obviously going to make it back. I would think that if you get into your dream school, and you get get it financed, you should go for it. Don't just pick the cheapest: pick where you will be happiest.
A few months ago, CCLCM announced that all students will be getting free tuition. The first years who just started last month will never pay a cent in tuition, and my class will end up paying for only one year of tuition instead of four. A gift of this magnitude is just mind-boggling and I will be incredibly grateful for it for the rest of my life.
I had to make this decision on Monday. I was all set on one school and my state school called me up. While a last min call is different than having to make the decision before 5/15, I definitely had a hard time because the cost difference between schools was huge. In the end I choose the more expensive school (never did I dream I would do that) and when I woke up the next morning I did not regret the decision. (I am not going to an Ivy) That being said I have yet to start school. and I suppose I may think differently once I do but I am happy at the moment.
They just announced it in May. Starting with the current first years, CCLCM students will attend tuition-free for all five years. (They're covering the continuation fee for our research year as well.) Those of us who were already here get free tuition from now on, plus half of our tuition money back from previous years. (That's why my class only ends up paying for one year instead of two.) Here's a link to the article from the CCLCM website if you're interested: http://www.clevelandclinic.org/cclcm/docs/announcement_tuition.pdfHoly crapola, I hadn't heard about that! That's beyond awesome. Congrats.
I had to make this decision on Monday. I was all set on one school and my state school called me up. While a last min call is different than having to make the decision before 5/15, I definitely had a hard time because the cost difference between schools was huge. In the end I choose the more expensive school (never did I dream I would do that) and when I woke up the next morning I did not regret the decision. (I am not going to an Ivy) That being said I have yet to start school. and I suppose I may think differently once I do but I am happy at the moment.
I picked FSU largely b/c of finances. As a student who has been in med school for all of 9 weeks (FSU starts early), here are my thoughts:
Most of us will spend 10-15 hours a day, 5-7 days per week, either studying or in class. (This has been my experience thus far.) You're not going to have a ton of time to spend out on the town, or in museums, or at Broadway shows, etc. It seems to me that picking a med school because it is in a "more exciting" city is generally a bad idea.
I also feel that choosing a school based on reputation is a bad idea. (I know many will disagree.) But, plain and simple, the evidence shows that where you go to school has little to no impact on what residency/specialty you enter. Be in the middle/top third of your class, do well on USMLE, become clinically adept, and interview well, and you will do well in the match, no matter what school you go to.
A slightly better reason to choose a school is based on how well it fits your personality type and learning style, but even this has its pitfalls. For one, it's really difficult to get a good feel for what it will be like attending a certain school just based on an interview experience and reading the school's website.
For me, huge factors are location (Is one school closer to family/friends/a spouse's job?; Is one school in a very cold climate, if you are from Florida?; Is one school in a city/state where you know you would like to eventually practice?), and money. If you are choosing between a school that will cost you $20K/year, and one that will run you $50K/year, you need to give some serious thought to how that will impact your financial situation for many, many years to come.
Just my opinion.
They just announced it in May. Starting with the current first years, CCLCM students will attend tuition-free for all five years. (They're covering the continuation fee for our research year as well.) Those of us who were already here get free tuition from now on, plus half of our tuition money back from previous years. (That's why my class only ends up paying for one year instead of two.) Here's a link to the article from the CCLCM website if you're interested: http://www.clevelandclinic.org/cclcm/docs/announcement_tuition.pdf
you'll probably have regrets either way.. but i bet not going to your dream school will be the bigger regret in comparison to not going to the cheaper school.. if parents are paying for it, maybe they can still put down the money they were originally going to pay for the cheaper school, and then let you cover the rest of the cost
Do you guys feel pressured to pick the cheapest school you're accepted to because of your parents or your financial situation, even though you would rather go somewhere else?
I had to make this decision on Monday. I was all set on one school and my state school called me up. While a last min call is different than having to make the decision before 5/15, I definitely had a hard time because the cost difference between schools was huge. In the end I choose the more expensive school (never did I dream I would do that) and when I woke up the next morning I did not regret the decision. (I am not going to an Ivy) That being said I have yet to start school. and I suppose I may think differently once I do but I am happy at the moment.
I think it is a little premature to say you don't regret the decision - the point of regret or not probably comes when you are faced with paying the money back
If you have a choice, attend the school where you feel you can do your best work. Your performance in medical school is going to influence where (and in what specialty) you will do residency. If you choose a cheaper school and you are miserable, you won't do excellent work.
If you are accepted, the financial aid office will make sure that you have enough funds to cover your attendance at said school. You may end up borrowing more money but in the end, your best chance of paying off your loans will come if you are doing what you love. If you do well in medical school, you end up with the best chance of doing what you love.
Until you are actually accepted to two schools that each meet one requirement of being cheap or "right", it's not worth thinking about, simply because the "right" school for you now can easily become the wrong school for you by the time your interviews are over.
Until you are actually accepted to two schools that each meet one requirement of being cheap or "right", it's not worth thinking about, simply because the "right" school for you now can easily become the wrong school for you by the time your interviews are over.
What I always tell people is that this medical school is about as much fun and low stress as medical school can possibly be. (Not that medical school is low stress or even particularly fun a lot of times!) We don't have tests, we don't have grades. We don't pay for tuition. We even get paid a stipend whenever we're on research blocks. They have us do so much clinic in first and second years that some of my classmates were complaining about it (as opposed to a lot of other schools, where they are begging to do more clinic). They solicit us for our feedback to the point where it gets annoying sometimes. I honestly can't think of too many ways the administration could make med school much easier on us without doing it all for us. 😛 I suspect you are right that it will be more competitive to get in here this year than it ever has been. Not that it's saying much, because we had over 1400 completed apps for 32 seats last year even before the free tuition thing happened.My dad told me about this! Needless to say, I applied to Cleveland this year. 🙂 How do you like it there?
I bet the free tuition is going to make it absurdly hard to get into this year, though.
I am also debating between UIC and UK, both OOS for me, but UIC cost 100K more than UK. I like Chicago better. Is it really worth it?
It's a question that I wish could be answered for you, but at the end of the day everyone has their own justifications and rationale for making the choice that they do. You're going to get out of med school what you put into it, much like anything else in life, so don't consider that school X is going to prepare you better than school Y, but rather whether you'll be happier at school X than school Y. Also, note that money is something that factors greatly into happiness. People talk about their "dream school," but I suspect that the wow factor disappears quite quickly once all the excitement of starting medical school dies down, and eventually your dream school becomes just ordinary.
Go somewhere you'll be happy, but don't be so naive as to think that the money doesn't matter.
I am also debating between UIC and UK, both OOS for me, but UIC cost 100K more than UK. I like Chicago better. Is it really worth it?
Take out student loans. You can't buy opportunity with money. Imagine if you only got into the cheaper school, you can't just pay 80 grand for the opportunity to goto the right school.
There is such a hype on here about being happy n go where you'll be happy and go to the happy place and happy happy happy. Thats important for sure, but pre-meds need to think for the future, not just immediate pleasure.
No matter where you, YOU make the most out of it. You decide to be 'happy', irrespective of the school.
I think this is SO true. A little bit of future planning should be taken into account when choosing the medical school you're attending and that should include things such as finances and how well prepared you'll be. Few people really go into medical school and come out just feeling happy happy about the experience regardless of where they go.Take out student loans. You can't buy opportunity with money. Imagine if you only got into the cheaper school, you can't just pay 80 grand for the opportunity to goto the right school.
what "opportunity" do you get by going to UIC over UK that makes it worth 20-25k a year?
I am also debating between UIC and UK, both OOS for me, but UIC cost 100K more than UK. I like Chicago better. Is it really worth it?