Chemistry 2 grade issue

[keyy200tx]

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Hey SDN people,
I don't know why my teacher will give me a B in my chemistry 2 class. Let say during summer 2 i was taking Calculus along with G. Chemistry 2 . I missed my first test for chemistry 2 because he changed it from monday to Tuesday without telling the whole class and i had my Calculus 3rd test on the same day so i didn't go for lectures but went for early morning lab. I explained everything to him after the test and he was like, I know you are saying the truth, but give me some days to fix a test for you. He didn't do that tell the end of class. So I took two chemistry test on the final day of school. Below are my grades for the class.
second test 94 , third test 90 , fourth 93, on the final i made 125 out of 150 points( i was the third highest ) I took my first test again, but ( i don't know if he has grade it or not ?) He told me he doesn't have time so i should take my B and move on.
I sent an e-mail to the deans (science depart) office and all they told me was its the instructors decision, but i can go ahead and report the overall dean of the college.

I am really worried about it. This same teacher gave me B in chemistry 1 for having a 89% and retook it with him again and got A while taking Calculus (Calculus was from summer one to half way of summer 2). I don't why he gave B because he knows i understand the material and the least of it all is, he gave most of the class C and they don't deserve it because most of them made D's in all the test. He just doesn't give D's but like B's and hate A's.

Question is should i let it go or try and fight him for this A. He is the hardest professor in the chemistry department.

 

[Passion4Sci]

if you have empirical proof of your grades, that is, your old exams graded and returned originals, and all points accounted for, there's no reason whatsoever to NOT fight that!

I'd take it all the way to Academic Senate, because if you're >90%, then you don't get a B, end of the story. Now, not rounding from 89%, that is teacher's discretion obviously. But in America, 90+% = A-/A. Fight it if you earned it.

 

[deleted329060]

What is the grading scale in your class? Perhaps 90% isn't the cutoff for an A and it's actually 95% or something. Does he curve? Perhaps participation counted?

 

[keyy200tx]

If he grades my first test i will for sure get an A. even if i get a 70 on the first test i will make an A. nuthing really changes. he just doesnt want to grade it

 

[JJVmom]

If he grades my first test i will for sure get an A. even if i get a 70 on the first test i will make an A. nuthing really changes. he just doesnt want to grade it

If he won't change it, and you have proof, then go to your dep't head b/c it makes a huge difference in your Pharmcas GPA.

At any rate, an "A" at my school is 93-100. :-(

 

[Passion4Sci]

If he won't change it, and you have proof, then go to your dep't head b/c it makes a huge difference in your Pharmcas GPA.

At any rate, an "A" at my school is 93-100. :-(

And 90-92 is an A-?

 

[chemguy79]

GO. FOR. BLOOD.

I don't want to be TOO much of a prick because I was a TA in graduate school and I was on the receiving end of some student rants (most unjustified: I had a student complain about receiving a 98 in Organic Chemistry lab because he wanted the 100 so he could get the A+ on his transcript ...); However, if you can prove your grade, pursue it as far as you can go.

At the end, your grade in the class shouldn't be a big deal or detrimentally affect your application to Pharmacy school, but if you're right, you should fight for your grade.

Note: This post is coming from a guy who received a 89.7 in Advanced Analytical Chemistry in graduate school and received a B for the class. *grumbles*

 

[Passion4Sci]

Yeah I think we've all been there... >89.5 and the guy won't round up...

 

[PharmOl]

And 90-92 is an A-?

Nope, that's in actuality a B...

 

[Passion4Sci]

Nope, that's in actuality a B...

What the hell.

That's whack.

 

[rxlea]

In my pharm school, a 92.5 is a B for two of my classes 🙁

 

[PharmOl]

What the hell.

That's whack.

I agree. I haven't been informed about my new school's grading scale yet, but I keep my fingers crossed that it's merciful.

 

[Passion4Sci]

I agree. I haven't been informed about my new school's grading scale yet, but I keep my fingers crossed that it's merciful.

Heh, no kidding!

 

[crazybob]

That reminds me of a post where Pharm B said 98.5% and up was an A for one class that his prof had.

Or you need to make the class more difficult. Our Calc II prof talked to us about how his "Human Sexuality" course in undergrad required a 98.5+ for an A.

It seems unfair to me that if more than 10-15 people out of a class of 100 do well, they don't all get A's.

Edit: I just now realized that he said it was his PROF who had a class like that, and not Pharm B himself.

 

[Dave4468]

FIGHT IT!

I remember when I was in General Bio 1, I got an 89.95% in the class and the prof REFUSED to round it up to an A (my school did not do plus or minuses). The irony of the story is, earlier that semester I had gone in her office to ask questions about a test. Well, one of the problems I found I actually got right but she scored it wrong, but i said "don't worry about it, its just a couple of points." Unfortunately she had a policy where you could not argue grade changes for a particular test after a certain amount of weeks had passed, so I couldn't just bring that test up after the semester was over. Man, if i could go back...

 

[delano2000]

FIGHT IT!

I remember when I was in General Bio 1, I got an 89.95% in the class and the prof REFUSED to round it up to an A (my school did not do plus or minuses). The irony of the story is, earlier that semester I had gone in her office to ask questions about a test. Well, one of the problems I found I actually got right but she scored it wrong, but i said "don't worry about it, its just a point." Unfortunately she had a policy where you could not argue grade changes for a particular test after a certain amount of weeks had passed, so I couldn't just bring that test up after the semester was over. Man, if i could go back...

Well that really sucks.

 

[charfdorn]

Hey SDN people,
I don't know why my teacher will give me a B in my chemistry 2 class. Let say during summer 2 i was taking Calculus along with G. Chemistry 2 . I missed my first test for chemistry 2 because he changed it from monday to Tuesday without telling the whole class and i had my Calculus 3rd test on the same day so i didn't go for lectures but went for early morning lab. I explained everything to him after the test and he was like, I know you are saying the truth, but give me some days to fix a test for you. He didn't do that tell the end of class. So I took two chemistry test on the final day of school. Below are my grades for the class.
second test 94 , third test 90 , fourth 93, on the final i made 125 out of 150 points( i was the third highest ) I took my first test again, but ( i don't know if he has grade it or not ?) He told me he doesn't have time so i should take my B and move on.
I sent an e-mail to the deans (science depart) office and all they told me was its the instructors decision, but i can go ahead and report the overall dean of the college.

I am really worried about it. This same teacher gave me B in chemistry 1 for having a 89% and retook it with him again and got A while taking Calculus (Calculus was from summer one to half way of summer 2). I don't why he gave B because he knows i understand the material and the least of it all is, he gave most of the class C and they don't deserve it because most of them made D's in all the test. He just doesn't give D's but like B's and hate A's.

Question is should i let it go or try and fight him for this A. He is the hardest professor in the chemistry department.

Well, 94+90+93+125 = 402. 402/450 is not an A. You don't get an A if you got a 70 on the first test, you get 472/550, which is still a B. In fact, you need a 93 on that first test to get your A. He gave you a B because you earned a B, and it was the final, not the first test that killed it for you.

 

[Project2015]

I missed my first test for chemistry 2 because ... i didn't go for lectures...

There's the problem. Attendance is expected. Your excuse was not reasonable. And it seems like the professor moved it back a day (rather than forward), and you would've known on Monday that the exam didn't take place.

 

[keyy200tx]

If he grades my first test for sure i will get A in the class. the final was 150 points and i earned 125. I think he just grades me hard since i don't show up for class and always do well on his test. Final took 25 points for rounding error , not showing all steps in solving the question. Chemistry 2 is way to easy for me to get B, After all i killed all the test just one ( which he is refusing to grade ). more than Half the class failed with C's.

 

[wsupharmacy]

There's the problem. Attendance is expected. Your excuse was not reasonable. And it seems like the professor moved it back a day (rather than forward), and you would've known on Monday that the exam didn't take place.

Agree 🙂

 

[kmoogs]

Hey SDN people,
I don't know why my teacher will give me a B in my chemistry 2 class. Let say during summer 2 i was taking Calculus along with G. Chemistry 2 . I missed my first test for chemistry 2 because he changed it from monday to Tuesday without telling the whole class and i had my Calculus 3rd test on the same day so i didn't go for lectures but went for early morning lab. I explained everything to him after the test and he was like, I know you are saying the truth, but give me some days to fix a test for you. He didn't do that tell the end of class. So I took two chemistry test on the final day of school. Below are my grades for the class.
second test 94 , third test 90 , fourth 93, on the final i made 125 out of 150 points( i was the third highest ) I took my first test again, but ( i don't know if he has grade it or not ?) He told me he doesn't have time so i should take my B and move on.
I sent an e-mail to the deans (science depart) office and all they told me was its the instructors decision, but i can go ahead and report the overall dean of the college.

I am really worried about it. This same teacher gave me B in chemistry 1 for having a 89% and retook it with him again and got A while taking Calculus (Calculus was from summer one to half way of summer 2). I don't why he gave B because he knows i understand the material and the least of it all is, he gave most of the class C and they don't deserve it because most of them made D's in all the test. He just doesn't give D's but like B's and hate A's.

Question is should i let it go or try and fight him for this A. He is the hardest professor in the chemistry department.

wait wait wait! So let me get this straight ... the test was supposed to be on MONDAY but he moved it to TUESDAY .......... but somehow you didn't realize when you showed up on monday that there was no test? What did you do on that Monday? 😕😕

And then you skipped lecture to work on a middle school/HS level math class .... knowing you didn't take the test on Monday and never bothered to ask why or when the test was?

I don't think you have much of a case with the professor or any higher entities if you choose to escalate the issue ...

 

[b1234]

Hey SDN people,
I don't know why my teacher will give me a B in my chemistry 2 class. Let say during summer 2 i was taking Calculus along with G. Chemistry 2 . I missed my first test for chemistry 2 because he changed it from monday to Tuesday without telling the whole class and i had my Calculus 3rd test on the same day so i didn't go for lectures but went for early morning lab. I explained everything to him after the test and he was like, I know you are saying the truth, but give me some days to fix a test for you. He didn't do that tell the end of class. So I took two chemistry test on the final day of school. Below are my grades for the class.
second test 94 , third test 90 , fourth 93, on the final i made 125 out of 150 points( i was the third highest ) I took my first test again, but ( i don't know if he has grade it or not ?) He told me he doesn't have time so i should take my B and move on.
I sent an e-mail to the deans (science depart) office and all they told me was its the instructors decision, but i can go ahead and report the overall dean of the college.

I am really worried about it. This same teacher gave me B in chemistry 1 for having a 89% and retook it with him again and got A while taking Calculus (Calculus was from summer one to half way of summer 2). I don't why he gave B because he knows i understand the material and the least of it all is, he gave most of the class C and they don't deserve it because most of them made D's in all the test. He just doesn't give D's but like B's and hate A's.

Question is should i let it go or try and fight him for this A. He is the hardest professor in the chemistry department.

Many of the chem profs I had would have just failed you...

 

[keyy200tx]

Dude, I was taking Calculus along with it. Chemistry test on Monday and Calculus test always on Tuesdays. . . Lab was Mandatory, but lecture was not.... and @ least he should have post it on black board. Only told the few people who showed up to class on Friday, and guess i had no friend in the class by then to inform me

 

[kmoogs]

Dude, I was taking Calculus along with it. Chemistry test on Monday and Calculus test always on Tuesdays. . . Lab was Mandatory, but lecture was not.... and @ least he should have post it on black board. Only told the few people who showed up to class on Friday, and guess i had no friend in the class by then to inform me

But the original test was scheduled for Monday ... how did you not realize on Monday that you didn't take the exam yet? You didn't think anything was amiss?

 

[Project2015]

Dude, I was taking Calculus along with it. Chemistry test on Monday and Calculus test always on Tuesdays. . . Lab was Mandatory, but lecture was not.... and @ least he should have post it on black board. Only told the few people who showed up to class on Friday, and guess i had no friend in the class by then to inform me

👎

OMG calculus AND general chem. Just because attendance is not checked does not make it optional. At least you should have showed up to the lecture right before the exam. Guess you missed Friday, wasn't really all there on Monday, and skipped Tuesday.

For a 73%, you should've received a C/C- (or less) and not a B because exams shouldn't be allowed to made up after the fact. You decided to sacrifice chemistry in order to prepare last minute for calculus and got away lucky with that B. Hope it helped that calculus exam.

 

[b1234]

Dude, I was taking Calculus along with it. Chemistry test on Monday and Calculus test always on Tuesdays. . . Lab was Mandatory, but lecture was not.... and @ least he should have post it on black board. Only told the few people who showed up to class on Friday, and guess i had no friend in the class by then to inform me

Just because attendance at every lecture is not mandatory does not mean it is not expected. Besides, YOU (or at least someone on your behalf) are PAYING for your education, you should get as much out of it as you can... You should have realized something had changed when you did not take the exam on Monday. You should have asked around - or asked the teacher about the exam time/day change.

Calculus and gen chem at the same time? Am I supposed to be impressed? or think that's a hard schedule? Gen chem and calc are considered core intro classes... I don't care what some people on this forum say on the subject about how these classes are so hard... - the "intro" calc sequence, gen chem, OChem, and Newtonian physics are not hard classes, they're intro/core classes.

 

[SHC1984]

If I was a professor and someone miss my exam it's an automatic ZERO. No excuses, no make-ups, no nothing. There should never be an excuse in life period. If you miss it it's your fault end of story. A good student will never have any reason to miss any classes or exams.

 

[crazybob]

If I was a professor and someone miss my exam it's an automatic ZERO. No excuses, no make-ups, no nothing. There should never be an excuse in life period. If you miss it it's your fault end of story. A good student will never have any reason to miss any classes or exams.

So if one your students was running late and speeding and had a cop chasing him, he should ignore the cop and still get to school on time to make it to your exam?

 

[kmoogs]

So if one your students was running late and speeding and had a cop chasing him, he should ignore the cop and still get to school on time to make it to your exam?

Stop, take the ticket, get to exam late 😀

Better late than never.

 

[SHC1984]

So if one your students was running late and speeding and had a cop chasing him, he should ignore the cop and still get to school on time to make it to your exam?

If you are a good student you shouldn't be running late in the first place. If you do miss the exam b/c of the cop, it would be your fault for running late. No sympathy there.

The point is 99.999999999% of the time if **** happens in your life it's usually your fault. So you should take responsibilty for it. Most people try to make excuses to make it look like it's someone else's fault. 🙄

 

[crazybob]

If you are a good student you shouldn't be running late in the first place. If you do miss the exam b/c of the cop, it would be your fault for running late. No sympathy there.

The point is 99.999999999% of the time if **** happens in your life it's usually your fault. So you should take responsibilty for it. Most people try to make excuses to make it look like it's someone else's fault. 🙄

But if the student drives at the speed limit, he will still be late.

So you're saying the student should drive even FASTER?

 

[SHC1984]

But if the student drives at the speed limit, he will still be late.

So you're saying the student should drive even FASTER?

The fact that the student is not early (proberly cuz he was partying hard last night) is his fault to begin with, so I am saying that he should suffer the consequences. Whatever it might be, he deserves it b/c he was late. Most exams won't let you start if you are more than 10 or 15 minutes late so if he miss the exam then he deserves a zero.