claiming disadvantaged status on amcas?

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I am filling out my amcas right now and was wondering if I should answer yes to the question that says "Do you wish to be considered a disadvantaged applicant by any of your designated medical schools which may consider such factors (social, economic or educational)?". Here's my background:
I am from a small town in India; been in us for ~6 yrs. I went to a public school which hardly taught me any english, the quality of instruction was poor, hardly any resources (libraries, etc). I feel like I had a difficult time learning english and as a result did poorly in verbal section of sat and mcat. However, the town I lived in had good healthcare; we were a middle class family( I didn't have to work for living or anything..). Based on this do you guys think I should say yes and explain the above on amcas as a reason why?

Thanks for your replies in advance.

chintu
 
It couldn't hurt. Worst case is that they don't classify you as disadvantaged and you waste about an hour filling out the disad portion of the AMCAS.
 
I think you probably qualify more than most people that put that down. However, I would focus on the aspects that your school was under-supported and had no resources rather than the learning English aspects affecting your MCAT. They want to admit people that have been disadvantaged but not necessarily people whos 'disadvantage' might continue to prevent them succeeding in medical school. Just my opinion...
 
i agree with tbw...
 
Hi Chintu, I applied as a "disadvantaged" applicant during this past year. My circumstances are a bit different from yours, but I found that my state schools (mine were California) were the ones trying to qualify my "disadvantaged" status to see how it "limited" and "impacted" my education with extra essays and interview questions specific to "disadvantaged applicants."

Like yours, my family is also an immigrant family. My parents together earned a range of $8000 to $15,000 annually while living in the United States until I was about sixteen years old. I went to crapper schools where average standardized test scores were about 30th percentile, and UCLA and UC Davis still asked me how this affected me and to cite examples. If you feel that your experiences had a significant effect on how you performed or how you could have performed and can provide concrete examples, definitely write it down! Just emphasize how hard you have worked to overcome difficulties and not so much on how they have pulled you down.

Best of luck on your applications--Hope this helps!
 
No, you do not qualifty as disadvantaged. It's mainly for socio-economically disadvantaged students who had to overcome difficulties as a child. It's to your advantage to mark the "english as a second language" box on the AMCAS application and explain your situation in your personal statement. If you claim yourself as disadvantaged, you have to have a "real" reason and I don't think they will buy your reason.
 
Don't listen to Persistence101
Applying as disadvantaged is not only for economic reasons it is also a lot of other things such as going to bad schools ect. I'm sure in India when you grew up you did not have it as good even if you were middle class. If you feel you are at a disadvantage then put it down. The truth is some people might try and tell you not to do it, because they might think you have an advantage in getting in over them, but do it if you feel that your high school education sucked ass.
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chintu,
If think that if you feel that you were truly at an educational disadvantage growing up, than go ahead and apply as disadvantaged and make sure to expand on this in your essay. However, persistence101 does have a point in that many of the people who claim disadvantaged status come from much more socially and/or economically disadvantaged backgrounds (extreme poverty, foster care, etc.) than it sounds like you are saying you did , so keep in mind that your claim will be judged in light of these. This does not mean that you shouldn't claim this status if you feel that you truly were at a disadvantage, it just means that you should consider what the typical disadvantaged applicant profile might look like and ask yourself if you fit this or if you may appear to be abusing this status, which will definitely not help your application. As other posters have stated, you will likely be grilled in secondaries and interviews if you say you were disadvantaged, and if you feel like you had to overcome extraordinary obstacles than you should have no problem explaining this in those situations. Everyone has to overcome at least some obstacles on their way to applying to med school, and I think you should only claim disadvantaged status if the ones you had to face were especially difficult or unusual (e.g., not ones that hundreds of other pre-meds that will be applying with you also faced and got through). If you feel this applies to you, then you should apply as disadvantaged. I woud also second tbw's reccommendation that you focus on your educational difficulties and not the ESL problems. Good luck on your app!
 
Originally posted by la ni?a
Don't listen to Persistence101
Applying as disadvantaged is not only for economic reasons it is also a lot of other things such as going to bad schools ect. I'm sure in India when you grew up you did not have it as good even if you were middle class. If you feel you are at a disadvantage then put it down. The truth is some people might try and tell you not to do it, because they might think you have an advantage in getting in over them, but do it if you feel that your high school education sucked ass.
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So if thousands of applicants felt that their high school education "sucked ass" then they have a right to apply as disadvantaged? 🙄 Um, I'm annoyed that a lot of people try to abuse the system while there are plenty of other students who grew up in poverty, foster care, etc. who didn't have the same "middle class" lifestyle.
 
75% of the US gets a crappy high school education.

Honestly, claiming disadvantaged may actually backfire on you. These guys have seen folks that are truly disadvantaged. You don't even fit into the mildly disadvantaged category. LOL. "I didn't have to work." Haha. Public schooling? Heaven forbid you didn't go to Bloomington Rich Bastards R Us private school!
 
now that i think about it, can you really claim disadvantaged b/c of language? maybe it might be better if you mentioned the hardships you had to endure by english being your 2nd language in your personal statement, but i don't know about claiming disadvantaged...
 
Ahh....I came to this country 9 years ago....I was moving all over the world, and I came from a 3rd world country with very little english instruction. Parents make very little money, mom is the only one working, dad has heart condition, etc....I didn't claim disadvantaged status, because I didn't live in a rural area where I had to walk for miles to the nearest high school or in the inner-city settings for the majority of my life. Every 3rd world country has problems, so unless if you were poor in India, which I doubt you were judging from how you are describing yourself, I don't think you lived more than half your life as being disadvantaged. Immigrant students have an extra challenge of doing well on the verbal, which is a standard deal for everyone who isn't born in an English-speaking country, so you aren't really at a disadvantage considering that you are an immigrant. My advice is to turn your experience towards your essay and don't try to claim the disadvantaged student status, because ADCOM's can definitely sniff out this type of thing.
 
as inspiring as chintu's story is i am afraid that it doesn't qualify him as disadvantaged. you need to be dirt poor, and you have to stay dirt poor to qualify as a disadvantaged candidate. how you feel about your circumstances doesn't play any role in what category you fall into, because feelings are subjective. though amcas wouldn't dare specify one, i am sure that there is an income based water test as to whether a person is truly disadvantaged, and you give no indication that your financial situation is nearly as dire as the disadvantaged label might imply.
 
If I qualified for the amcas fee waiver, do you think I should apply as disadvantaged? I only recently found that there is even an option of applying as disadvantaged.
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
as inspiring as chintu's story is i am afraid that it doesn't qualify him as disadvantaged. you need to be dirt poor, and you have to stay dirt poor to qualify as a disadvantaged candidate.

This is not true. You do not have to stay dirt poor up to your application year. One could have lived in poverty as a child but work now and have a stable income.
 
To the OP- If you are from a stable, middle-class family I don't see how you could call yourself 'disadvantaged'. I agree with others-- if going to a crappy school was enough, then most of us could claim disadvantage.

Your immigrant status/ ESL has nothing to do with disadvantaged status. But it IS an important thing to mention on your PS in regards to your MCAT verbal score etc.
 
Hello Everybody,
I am filling out med school application and I want to be considered as disadvantageous applicant .Could you please advise whether i am eligible to apply as disadvantageous status. Below is my essay.

I was born and raised in rural town (Bokoji) in Ethiopia, Africa. I am one of the five siblings raised by a single mother. My mother doesn’t have an education at all and she does not speak English. Consequently, she has only been able to offer limited support for my educational pursuits. My mother used to sale homemade local beer to farmers, and she had struggled to support our family on the proceeds from the sales. I began working to help support my family starting at age 7 selling sugar canes, fruits, potatoes after school. I had to trade sleep for work or school to meet ends. My older brother who had been living 53 miles away in the capital city (Addis Ababa) of Ethiopia helped me to attend my high school education. I attended science while at high school. I have had to struggle on my own to perform in school and understand subject matters. I learned to ask for assistance, seek out any and all resources, and take initiative in my own learning. As a result, I performed well in high school. While I was in high school, I studied science and received the highest academic awards, ranking first in my class. I managed and successfully passed the High School Leaving Exam with honor and got admission to Addis Ababa University. My mother passed away while I was 2nd year student. I had suffered and endured emotional stress due to the loss of my mother .While working part time I have graduated in Economics. I would have been happy, had my mother had seen my achievement.

I came to the United States of America due to the political instability in my country. My family arrived lately to the US. My marriage with Mrs. Messeret Debebe has yielded four children. As a father of four, I am reminded of the burden of time and financial constraints as dual responsibility of father-student often presents. On the one hand, as a bread winner, I am responsible to take care of the financial aspect of the whole household working as full time. Working as a cashier in a low paying industry, has been financially challenging for me to raise my children and meet their basics. As a result, I have been receiving government assistant in the form of food stamp, medical insurance and free student lunch. Also, now we live in low income government housing project built to help low income immigrants. My wife has been taking care of our children and she is a homestay mom. I have been thinking about how to become self-sufficient and the only way out is education.

I started to attend day time at Northern Virginia Community College majoring science, aspiring for a better life for me and for my family under difficult financial constraint. I successfully completed my required courses with a GPA of 4.00. I made the President’s Scholar and Dean’s List every quarter in Northern Virginia Community college. In addition, I achieved this academic success while working as full-time employee, even with a highly irregular schedule as a cashier at a hotel during the graveyard shift. Needless to say, I had little time to participate in extracurricular activities such as serving community as a volunteer. I served as a volunteer at Inova Fairfax hospital in Virginia. Since I moved to Washington State, I have been volunteering at New Holy park community center and at the Ethiopian community center in Seattle. I am also a member of the Parent –Teachers association (PTA) at Hawthorn Elementary School where my children attend . I have been participating in school related activities with the school community.
 
What's with all the necrosis lately?
 
Thanks BrCo! I am not talking about necrosis but asking your comment to improve my essay!!
 
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