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  1. connie95

    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    Can someone please tell me what the average GPA/MCAT score is for successful medical school applicants? What is considered competitive? I keep hearing different viewpoints and am not sure what the correct answer is...
     
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    justAstudent SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    It's hard to say as it varies from school to school and person to person. But a good GPA to aim for is a 3.5 and MCAT of 30.
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    The median MCAT for a successful matriculate last year was 33.
     
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    Deadlifts Warming up with your max 2+ Year Member

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    Order the Online MSAR subscription. https://services.aamc.org/30/msar/home
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    Huh so I guess I was freaking out for nothing...my current overall GPA trend is 3.63 freshman year and 3.8 sophomore year and that's not including summer classes. Everyone around me acted like I was worthless for not getting a 4.0 and I truly felt like I wouldn't stand a chance at med school :( So this is nice to hear!
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    I want to order this...I believe it'll relieve a lot of my anxiety! But I don't apply until June of next year...and since it's only a one-year subscription, I'm waiting to get it next month so I'll still have it when I apply!
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    Is this for all schools? Or does the median MCAT score vary as well? (for example, would a 33 MCAT be too low to be considered for a top 20 school, say JHU, WASHU or UVA?)
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    Your gpa is fine.
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    The MSAR will give you the median stats for accepted students at each school. Some of them are much higher than this. Many are lower. AAMC reported the overall statistical median for last year's accepted students to be 33.

    The last time I checked, the 10th% at Wash U was 34.
     
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    Shazam243 2+ Year Member

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    Your major is also considered, as well as your school's tendency for grade inflation/deflation.
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    Majors are considered very little (if at all).
    There may be minor accommodations for known grade inflation or deflation but this generally relates to feeder schools well known to a particular medical school.
    For the most part, your gpa is your gpa.
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    Hmm...well I don't attend a top UG or anything (I believe my school is ranked in the 140's range in US News and it's a public, state university). I wouldn't say it's easy to get all A's, but I guess that differs based on people's opinions. Does it matter a lot if you are doing a major/minor vs. just a major? I'm currently pursuing B.S. in Neuroscience and am not too sure on whether I really want to do a minor.
     
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    mct2762 Banned Banned Account on Hold 2+ Year Member

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    That's the medial for all schools. some schools have lower scores and some higher
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    Thanks for the info gyngyn! Could you please elaborate on what you mean by feeder schools? How would I know if I'm currently attending a "feeder school?"
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    We really don't care about your major. A minor matters even less.
    We care that you distinguish yourself in your chosen field of study.
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    I see...I'm taking my MCAT this August so I guess I'll just give it my best shot without worrying too much about the outcome of the results. That'll just stress me out more. I also can't wait to buy the MSAR!
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    Some states have only a few medical schools and an IS bias. Over time, the medical school becomes familiar with the candidates from certain places especially if these places have historically provided them with good students.

    Your pre-health advising office should be able to tell you where candidates like you have been accepted in the past.
     
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    Search the net or ask your adviser if your schools is generally known for grade inflation/deflation.

    Your major, as well as degree, sounds like a good choice/not known for being easy.

    No, schools generally do not care if you have a major/minor, or even double major. However, taking classes outside of your major/sciences would be beneficial, as long as they're not obviously grade booster classes. Neuroscience+Psych/Bio will not really impress many people. Neuroscience+English/History/etc. will be viewed more favorably, yet should not be the main/only reason why you're double majoring.
     
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    connie95 Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

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    So it's not necessarily a bad thing? I think I'm at one of those schools then, because every year schools like Georgetown, GW, and VCU take a couple of students from my school through an early assurance program. Unfortunately, I was not eligible for this due to my transfer student status =/
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    A feeder school is a good thing!
     
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    Deadlifts Warming up with your max 2+ Year Member

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    N=1 but me having a non-science major was not an issue in my admissions process.
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    We like them.
     
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    Can anyone comment on how the 33 is calculated? As in is it rounded at all? I know for a lot of the schools I was applying to, the 90th, 10th and median MCATs were highly inflated and did not match the websites of the schools themselves. I don't find the MSAR's data to be 100% reliable
     
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    Also if they round each section before adding the total MCAT score together, that rounding makes the score even farther away from the true median.
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    All scores for accepted students are available to the AAMC.
    The AAMC independently calculates and reports the data in the MSAR.
    Variability occurs when the school puts the mean score or gives scores for matriculates instead of accepted students or some other completely different metric on the website (or in promotional materials).
     
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    gyngyn Professor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    Sometimes I like this! Sometimes, not.
     
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    Yes.

    for example, would a 33 MCAT be too low to be considered for a top 20 school, say JHU, WASHU
     
  29. CUNYguy

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    I read from a premed book that the best is to have:

    (cGPA x 10) + MCAT > 65

    Would be a safe bet.
     
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    Google "AMCAS Table 25"
     

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