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I've been staying in tonight to try to figure out thanksgiving travel plans.

I have a ride to City X.
Then I take the megabus from City X to City Y (closer to home).
Explore City Y for the afternoon.
Take greyound from City Y to home (or figure out some type of ride).

This would only allow me 2 total days in City X.
I feel like a crazy person, but I don't want to spend tgiving alone. 🙁
(though one of my friends said I could go to his grandma's place haha)
 
Suncrusher said:
The majority of marriages end in divorce (yes, I know that this statistic counts the second, third, fourth, etc. marriages of serial-spouses, but it is still around 43% for first marriages), yet at the start of a marriage, less than 1 in 10 people think their own marriage even has a chance of ending in divorce...I hate to be a downer (and I couldn't even really manage it if I wanted to, after that pig and otter), but this is just like how most people think they are above average. Odds are, you are probably not special and might wish you had a prenup if you and your spouse eventually realize you have grown apart; that way you don't risk a bitter and messy divorce and hopefully can both go on to lead happier lives. It's hard to imagine that happening if one party thinks they got screwed in the divorce and are constantly bitter and angry about it. That might not hold true for marriages where only one party wants the divorce, but still...maybe the idea of prenups ruins idealism we all have, but I'd rather have a prenup impinge a tiny bit upon the romanticism of a relationship than have a messy divorce ruin my belief in romance for the rest of my life. Feel free to disagree tho


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Divorce settlement:

Spouse gets 99% of assets
Suncrusher gets the pet baby otter...yesss!
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Yeah, I said something similar but much less eloquent about prenups keeping divorcees from hating each other more than they did when they decided to split up.
 
I'm not a big fan of prenups, but then again, all I know about them is from the media.

I understand getting a prenup if you have money from the get-go (already a physician that has paid of their debt, celebrity, whatever) because you should be able to protect what already is yours -- and you risk the spouse only being a golddigger.

If I got married tomorrow though, before all the medical school and residency drama... I wouldn't get a prenup. I believe the spouse than has the right to claim for of your future earnings, if a divorce occurs, because they were there supporting you. I believe this even if the spouse ends up cheating... because people do grow apart... but they were there earlier on so they shouldn't be denied some funds.

Then again, I still really have no idea what a prenup is. haha.

Also suncrusher -- divorce rates are lower if you are a college graduate. 15% for first 10 years of marriage. So it isn't that bleak.
 
i dont really care about stats for only 10 years, i like lifetime stats. Marriages are for life unless they end in death or divorce, so the stats should be too, right? Do you know the lifetime stats for college grads? I'm genuinely interested now : )

I think you can customize prenups, right?
 
Suncrusher said:
i dont really care about stats for only 10 years, i like lifetime stats. Marriages are for life unless they end in death or divorce, so the stats should be too, right? Do you know the lifetime stats for college grads? I'm genuinely interested now : )
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I'll try to find lifetime stats but from wikipedia:
"Success in marriage has been associated with higher education and higher age. 81% of college graduates, over 26 years of age, who wed in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later. 65% of college graduates under 26 who married in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later."

I think if you last more than 10 years though, you should have to go through the messy divorce. 😛
And maybe people have less messy divorces with prenups only because they are better at planning on what they want and being able to communicate to their ex-spouse this withouth going all crazy about it...more so than the non-prenup people... so regardless the divorce would be less messy (i'm just wondering. have no idea though...)

also from wikipedia: "It is estimated that upwards of 95% of divorces in the US are "uncontested," because the two parties are able to come to an agreement without a hearing (either with or without lawyers/mediators/collaborative counsel) about the property, children and support issues."
 
Suncrusher said:
ok thanks. : ) You're right, it isn't quite so bleak
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Pretty much, it sounds like in this day and age, you should wait til you are 26+ to get married. Are prefrontal lobe is still forming until about 25, meaning that men still have no idea what they want... or how to plan long term... 😛
 
Avoidthetiger said:
Pretty much, it sounds like in this day and age, you should wait til you are 26+ to get married. Are prefrontal lobe is still forming until about 25, meaning that men still have no idea what they want... or how to plan long term... 😛
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I would agree to that - that's experience talking. 🙂
 
ksmi117 said:
:cry: I'm nice. I promise. We let 2013er's in ours. 🙁

Plus, I'll probably take a year off to get a masters and graduate in 2015. That counts right???
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i'l consider it... but now that you mention it i could could potentially be class of 2016 if i do the same thing.
 
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Suncrusher said:
you...! You didn't have to tell me that!

K back to being a downer 😛
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but we finally found each other. so we are good till we are golden. 😉

But I married young and dumb... he married cuz everyone said not to, then married again for the wrong reasons. This time we married for the right reasons. I think a lot of people rush into marriage not really understanding the commitment and effort it takes to make a marriage work.
 
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Avoidthetiger said:
Pretty much, it sounds like in this day and age, you should wait til you are 26+ to get married. Are prefrontal lobe is still forming until about 25, meaning that men still have no idea what they want... or how to plan long term... 😛
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I'm 23, and the only people my age I know from college or HS that are now married are either Mormon or pregnant.

My life outlook is that my 20s are my "me" years, where I get myself to where I want to be in my career and have the experiences I want to have. Late 20s/early 30s is the transition time to being a real adult.

Anecdote: One of my sister's 27 year old newly-married friends said she had the baby talk with her husband... his response? "I still throw up from drinking too much. When I stop doing that, I might be ready for a baby." :laugh:
 
DaisyBuchanan said:
I'm 23, and the only people my age I know from college or HS that are now married are either Mormon or pregnant.

My life outlook is that my 20s are my "me" years, where I get myself to where I want to be in my career and have the experiences I want to have. Late 20s/early 30s is the transition time to being a real adult.

Anecdote: One of my sister's 27 year old newly-married friends said she had the baby talk with her husband... his response? "I still throw up from drinking too much. When I stop doing that, I might be ready for a baby." :laugh:
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:laugh: At least he knows he's not ready.
 
Avoidthetiger said:
Pretty much, it sounds like in this day and age, you should wait til you are 26+ to get married. Are prefrontal lobe is still forming until about 25, meaning that men still have no idea what they want... or how to plan long term... 😛
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Hubster was 27 and I was 23. Hrmmm...

Actually, New Year's Eve will be our 10th date-iversary. We got engaged after 5 years then finally got married 2 1/2 years after that. D'awwwww. 😍
 
no offense geeks, but if there was a law that prevented people from getting engaged until they were 25+ i'd be all for it.
 
CougarMD said:
I go back and forth on the prenup thing.

Half of my brain says that both parties (rich and poor) need one to protect themselves. In the immortal words of Chris Rock....
"If you make 20 million....and you have to give her 10...no big deal. You still got 10 million. But if you make 30 thousand...and your wife wants 15....you might have to kill her."


The other part of me says that you should know the person well enough not to need one.


But people evolve....and get angry.

I dunno...I doubt I will ever need to find out the answer to this question 😀
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I think that's how most people feel about the issue, myself included, although I can definitely see myself asking for one at some point or another.

Longshanks said:
While I personally feel government intervention was necessary, I wasn't necessarily promoting that in my statement. Their organization seems opposed to anything, unless its out of pocket expenses.

Not everything that needs improvement needs government intervention, but the health care system, which the government already subsidizes much of, is an area for the government to become more involved and take on a greater responsibility since it is a public service for the public's well-being. Government involvement is necessary because health care is not a fair and open market, and never will be even without government action. Health care isn't the restaurant industry or textiles. It doesn't work as simple as other markets.

For things which everyone should have access to and which work towards promoting the health and safety of society I'd rather have the government run entirely or be the major stakeholder (water, military, police, fire department, roads, sidewalks, sewage, parks). For things that should be a pure capitalistic adventure, such as which pen manufacturer I prefer, then I want the least amount of government involvement possible other than consumer protections in case said company uses harmful materials.
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Sorry I misrepresented your stance. I can see your logic and since the underlying premise is one on which we disagree, I don't feel like going into that sort of debate atm 🙂

BWSTW said:
does anyone smoke cigars? I am sitting here drinking wine, talking to my husband who is smoking a black and mild, wishing I had a humidor full of cigars... mmmm I miss cigars.
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Yes'm I do. Not super often, would like to do it more, but need more $$$. Had a romeo y julieta the other day that I really enjoyed.
BWSTW said:
Pasta and bread are my biggest weaknesses. I just made alfredo for dinner. And I'm making spaghetti tomorrow night. 😳 But I make some good spaghetti. 🙂
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Yo tambien.
 
FlowRate said:
Sorry I misrepresented your stance. I can see your logic and since the underlying premise is one on which we disagree, I don't feel like going into that sort of debate atm 🙂
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Its cool we disagree. I wasn't in the mood to debate either and was out all night, so couldn't reply anyway, ha.

Still love ya, Flow.
 
DaisyBuchanan said:
Good morning all! Does anyone have anything exciting going on this weekend?
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The Met is open late tonight, so a bunch of friends and I are going to hit up Dallas BBQ for some bbq and drinks, and then wander the Met. I guess its our Saturday version of Ferris Bueller's day off... except with ribs, wings, and ancient art.

What are you doing, Daisy?
 
Longshanks said:
The Met is open late tonight, so a bunch of friends and I are going to hit up Dallas BBQ for some bbq and drinks, and then wander the Met. I guess its our Saturday version of Ferris Bueller's day off... except with ribs, wings, and ancient art.

What are you doing, Daisy?
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Nothing so culturally enriching. Gym then hitting the South Bay then watching football then going out. Items 2-4 are all chocolate-milk-laden activities.
 
chocolate milk is on the agenda for me tonight when i get off of work.
 
Longshanks said:
The Met is open late tonight, so a bunch of friends and I are going to hit up Dallas BBQ for some bbq and drinks, and then wander the Met. I guess its our Saturday version of Ferris Bueller's day off... except with ribs, wings, and ancient art.

What are you doing, Daisy?
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Statements like this make me wish I lived where you live🙁



I'm going to stay in bed for another 3 hours watching No Ordinary Family, then I am going to get up and go to the gym. Then I will take my doggie for a nice long romp at the dog park, and I will come home and FINALLY write that update letter I have been agonizing about in my head for a week. Then...I'm on call tonight at the hospital.


In the meantime....I'm listening to my upstairs neighbors make way too much noise playing the tuba. Was that what the instrument was in HIMYM? I can't remember.
 
60% chance of me going skiing tomorrow. Just depending on if this gal has time to correspond with me such that we can get all the logistics in place. Interview monday 🙂

Today, might do some homework, but mostly just hanging with the family. Haven't seen 'em in a while 😀
 
DaisyBuchanan said:
Nothing so culturally enriching. Gym then hitting the South Bay then watching football then going out. Items 2-4 are all chocolate-milk-laden activities.
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Usually we're not so culturally enriching. Doh, I forgot about college football today, my mind is elsewhere and also still finishing those last four secondaries 🙂eek: i know.. I got lazy after labor day.. but I mean I sent out 20+ others MD&DO).

CougarMD said:
Statements like this make me wish I lived where you live🙁



I'm going to stay in bed for another 3 hours watching No Ordinary Family, then I am going to get up and go to the gym. Then I will take my doggie for a nice long romp at the dog park, and I will come home and FINALLY write that update letter I have been agonizing about in my head for a week. Then...I'm on call tonight at the hospital.


In the meantime....I'm listening to my upstairs neighbors make way too much noise playing the tuba. Was that what the instrument was in HIMYM? I can't remember.
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Seriously, this is the first time we've done something like this. Other than seeing bands play now and then, we're usually on the milk chocolate circuit. Should be fun. But I kinda double booked myself. Supposed to meet up with a friend from a school I'm interviewing at this week, to catch up and also ask a few questions. I need to try to merge the two.
 
FlowRate said:
60% chance of me going skiing tomorrow. Just depending on if this gal has time to correspond with me such that we can get all the logistics in place. Interview monday 🙂

Today, might do some homework, but mostly just hanging with the family. Haven't seen 'em in a while 😀
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Jealous. Where is there enough snow already???
 
FlowRate said:
Denver, CO. Copper Mtn Resort 🙂 The base is only like 24" but they're also supposed to get a bunch of snow today and tomorrow.
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DaisyBuchanan said:
There's always snow on Mt. Bachelor in Oregon, thanks to the glacier. Skiing in August = win.
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So jealous. I love skiing but I never get to go. 🙁 Too far away.
 
Baby girl's Christmas dress:

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So we were in Macy's in the mall this afternoon and I saw a skirt that I thought was absolutely ADORABLE for me for Christmas. We were on our way out of the mall at that point and it was on the mannequin, so I had to look up the info about it when we got home.

It's $100. That is friggin' ridiculous to me. It also probably wouldn't fit me. I don't know if I should be angry about that, or relieved because now I don't feel tempted. :laugh:
 
Geekchick921 said:
So we were in Macy's in the mall this afternoon and I saw a skirt that I thought was absolutely ADORABLE for me for Christmas. We were on our way out of the mall at that point and it was on the mannequin, so I had to look up the info about it when we got home.

It's $100. That is friggin' ridiculous to me. It also probably wouldn't fit me. I don't know if I should be angry about that, or relieved because now I don't feel tempted. :laugh:
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Link please🙂


And you should be relieved🙂
 
CougarMD said:
Link please🙂


And you should be relieved🙂
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Geekchick921 said:
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=501363&PseudoCat=se-xx-xx-xx.esn_results

They had it paired with a black V-neck with ruffles along the neckline on the mannequin... I thought it was so cute together. I haven't bothered to look that up, though.
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CougarMD said:
Oh that IS super cute...I love the length
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this is the equivalent to us talking about sports
 
when it comes to skirts, I only ask one question: "are her legs nice?" 😀

A few days ago someone posted a pic of grilled oysters from a restaurant in new orleans. It looked good so I found the recipe (butter, pepper, garlic, romano cheese, parmesan cheese, + BBQ) and made them. They came out pretty damn good, but I learned that shucking oysters is a pain in the butt.
 
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