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Really? I count two. Maybe that's just me.
if ya ask me, that's two times too many if used in the same sentence as vagina.


and I'm gonna agree with Yoda, and with Cougs, on the mushy aspect. bleh.
 
I very desperately want to post a thread telling all med students that they need a f-ing attitude adjustment about their OBGYN rotations. I feel like the thumbs down on OBGYN has been getting even more extreme lately. I get it that you're scared....but if you walk into it KNOWING that it is going to suck....guess what....it is going to suck. And, by the way, there are a ton of things you can do to make it better.

Unfortunately....I'm sure I would get flamed. Because this is SDN. And that is what happens.

It is Sunday. I am at work. Feel free to bug me on gchat😀

I think the problem is that, for most guys, seeing vajayjay is usually the best part of the day. Once it becomes the worst part of the day, or work, then it feels like the world is upside down, and therefore, gets a big 👎.
 
Really? I count two. Maybe that's just me.

Considering how many vaginas I see....and how few "diseased" ones I see......that seems like a lot to me.

Am I the only one who sees these words (diseased, screaming) and feels like they are just inappropriate words for the situation😕

And Flow, I am truly not picking on you. I think that you framed it in the same terms that a lot of people would frame it, and I feel like from most of our private conversations, you don't harbor any feelings other than idle curiosity about OBGYN. But I think a lot of premeds feel like it is all blood, screaming, and agony.

Screaming is what happens when people are afraid. Laboring women do not scream for 30 hours. Screaming actually arrests labor. If they did that....babies would not come out. The sounds that help labor are lower and more in the belly. Screaming comes from the throat and nose and is piercing.

Newborn babies do not scream. In fact, their cries are relatively soft, especially if you have been around a 6 month old, a 1 year old, or a 2 year old. They also cry a bit but settle down pretty quickly in most cases.

If you work with docs and nurses that scream...then that is its own problem.
 
The greater chance of sexual harassment lawsuits, smelly vaginas, poo and other lovely excrements, emotional pregnant women in extreme pain who once scorned by minute details are bent on vengeance, the heartbreak of when things go wrong, weird/suspicious looks from most people you tell you're a male gyno, and the reward of blame that our infant mortality rate is extremely high for our health care costs are all deterrents for me.
 
Maybe it would be more productive if I ask why people hate it so much? I mean, other than the fact that doing vaginal exams all day just doesn't sound like fun to anyone.

If everyone articulated their issues I would understand a little better.
Reading around and talking to a lot of M3s/M4s, they hate it because the residents and faculty seem to be some of the worst people to deal with and they make the med students' lives a living hell.
 
Yeah, I was just framing a joke around the horror stories I've read on SDN. OBGYN is probably not much different in grossness factor than urology, EM, or even rad/onc (the guy I shadowed spent a lot of time with his finger in places).
 
finally finished up the trio of holiday movies i wanted to seej (true grit, black swan, and the fighter. i just saw the fighter and it was superb. all three were great and worth the money to see in theaters.
 
Reading around and talking to a lot of M3s/M4s, they hate it because the residents and faculty seem to be some of the worst people to deal with and they make the med students' lives a living hell.
Yeah, I am worried that OBGYN is/has become the place that surgery flunkies end up because they want to cut things.

This makes me sad.
 
Yeah, I am worried that OBGYN is/has become the place that surgery flunkies end up because they want to cut things.

This makes me sad.
i don't know why, but that statement made me lol. :laugh:
 
Yeah, I am worried that OBGYN is/has become the place that surgery flunkies end up because they want to cut things.

This makes me sad.
I don't think that's the case. It's not like G.Surg is ridiculously competitive field or something. I'm pretty sure Ob/Gyn and G.Surg are fairly similar in competitiveness (though I don't have the NRMP data on had at the moment).
 
Reading around and talking to a lot of M3s/M4s, they hate it because the residents and faculty seem to be some of the worst people to deal with and they make the med students' lives a living hell.
This makes me kind of apprehensive about my ob/gyn rotation. I'm reserving judgment though since I've never met an ob/gyn resident or attending and I've grown to no longer trust most of the med student opinions I see on SDN.

I don't think that's the case. It's not like G.Surg is ridiculously competitive field or something. I'm pretty sure Ob/Gyn and G.Surg are fairly similar in competitiveness (though I don't have the NRMP data on had at the moment).
Yep, gsurg is like the only easily attainable surgical speciality. There has been an uptick in US grads applying to it in recent years, but it's still not hard to get into.

They seem fairly similar-
Positions/us senior: 0.9 gsurg, 1.1 ob/gyn
avg matched step 1: 224 gsurg, 219 ob/gyn
% AOA: 12.3 gsurg, 13.8 ob/gyn
 
Then I honestly don't know what it is🙁 I don't disargee with you....I see a lot of dissatisfied docs. But I am not sure if it is general dissatisfaction or if it is localized to OB...I don't have enough personal experience to say. I will say that in OB they are happier with their patients than they were in the ED. But...that seems logical🙂

OB is a lot about patient relations. If you suck at this...you are going to hate your life. If you did not know you suck at this and chose it as your specialty...you will especially hate your life.

The midwives I work with are super happy. Though their limited scope of practice may have something to do with this, I doubt it. They still work within the same system.

Not really sure why people are unhappy🙁
 
Yeah, I was just framing a joke around the horror stories I've read on SDN. OBGYN is probably not much different in grossness factor than urology, EM, or even rad/onc (the guy I shadowed spent a lot of time with his finger in places).

:laugh:
 
He chose to specialize in prostate blasting, so I guess it comes with the territory

It's kinda funny how they just hand dudes a box of tissues afterward "clean yourself up" is the implication... Might as well give 'em a 20 so they can buy something nice.

Or maybe it's for the tears :cry:
 
As for housing, I know I'll be living off campus wherever I go. My bf and I are gonna be living together, but since we won't be married by then (unless something extremely crazy happens) we'll have to go off campus. But to be honest, most of the schools I'm considering at this point don't really have student housing anyway, so it wouldn't matter.
Awww cute. How long have you been with the bf?

got the game on lock. you can call me Coach K.

my freshmen team was down 20-10 at half time. we came back and won 31-34 😎
Woo congrats!
we're getting an SDN house in philly.
Animal House: Med School Edition
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I think the problem is that, for most guys, seeing vajayjay is usually the best part of the day. Once it becomes the worst part of the day, or work, then it feels like the world is upside down, and therefore, gets a big 👎.
It's like why chefs don't cook at home, right? As for me, I'll just say that I don't think OBGYN is for me, but I'm not dreading doing the rotation.
 
what if OBGYN just makes you appreciate your wife's V thatt much more?

Not that I would do it...jusssssaayyyinnn
 
what if OBGYN just makes you appreciate your wife's V thatt much more?

Not that I would do it...jusssssaayyyinnn

You don't need to taste dirt to appreciate cake homie 😛.

I think the OB part would be rewarding work. After all, Cliff Huxtable (the TV character, not the SDNer) seemed pretty happy. Where I work (hospital sugery dept.), all the OB/GYN stuff I see is hysterectomies and dilation and curettages. Not my favorite procedures to watch, but important work nonetheless.

While we are on the topic, the funniest conversation I heard at work last week:

Scene - neurosurgy, female patient

RN (while putting in urinary catheter): "It's green!"
Anesthesiologist (takes a peak): "She better get that cooter cleaned up if she wants a boy friend." :laugh:
RN: "Her boyfriend is in the waiting room."
Anesthesiologist: "He better get cleaned up too."

The anesthesiologist is also our medical director.
 
You don't need to taste dirt to appreciate cake homie 😛.

I think the OB part would be rewarding work. After all, Cliff Huxtable (the TV character, not the SDNer) seemed pretty happy. Where I work (hospital sugery dept.), all the OB/GYN stuff I see is hysterectomies and dilation and curettages. Not my favorite procedures to watch, but important work nonetheless.

While we are on the topic, the funniest conversation I heard at work last week:

Scene - neurosurgy, female patient

RN (while putting in urinary catheter): "It's green!"
Anesthesiologist (takes a peak): "She better get that cooter cleaned up if she wants a boy friend." :laugh:
RN: "Her boyfriend is in the waiting room."
Anesthesiologist: "He better get cleaned up too."

The anesthesiologist is also our medical director.
😆

i'm glad rhino is back
 
what if OBGYN just makes you appreciate your wife's V thatt much more?

Not that I would do it...jusssssaayyyinnn
For a guy I would think it would be the opposite. It is like working at a video game company at a game tester. The last thing you then want to do when you get home is play Halo.
 
Also, women should not be urologists unless their husband is above average.
 
Awww cute. How long have you been with the bf?
🙂 Thanks Daisy. Our three year anniversary is coming up in a couple weeks. We met freshman year before class even started though, so we were good friends for a while before we started dating.

Also, women should not be urologists unless their husband is above average.

haha, good point. I go to the weekly cancer conference at the hospital where I volunteer, and the two urologists at the meeting keep telling me the haven't had a female urologist in town for years and that it'd be the perfect specialty for me if I ever want to shadow them. Still haven't taken them up on it.

As to ob/gyn, I've actually been warming up to it a bit more as a specialty I'd enjoy. My experience in it is pretty limited, so who knows. But it definitely doesn't gross me out or scare me as much as it does for some people.
 
Also, women should not be urologists unless their husband is above average.

I had a master back-up plan to become a urologist and attract clientele by 1. being a decent-looking chick doctor and 2. hiring hot nurses. Raffle said that would make patients all the more uncomfortable though 😛
 
I had a master back-up plan to become a urologist and attract clientele by 1. being a decent-looking chick doctor and 2. hiring hot nurses. Raffle said that would make patients all the more uncomfortable though 😛

I would be looking for hidden cameras and ear pieces the entire visit.
 
I had a master back-up plan to become a urologist and attract clientele by 1. being a decent-looking chick doctor and 2. hiring hot nurses. Raffle said that would make patients all the more uncomfortable though 😛
that might be the key helping with ED though. think about it daisy.
 
I wonder if there are any Married couples out there that the husband is an OBGYN and the wife a Urologist? and how their sex life is?
 
A bit off-topic but can anyone recommend any good android games/puzzles to make my long morning commute a bit more enjoyable?

I'm sick of tetris clones for now.

Well besides reading via Kindle etc., the general Angry Birds, freecell, and sudoku I recommend Frozen Bubble and Gem Miner. If you don't like those then I'd say fish out a couple bucks for Gameboid and/or Snesoid... it's worth every penny to play a number of awesome ROMs.
 
I had a master back-up plan to become a urologist and attract clientele by 1. being a decent-looking chick doctor and 2. hiring hot nurses. Raffle said that would make patients all the more uncomfortable though 😛


thinking that almost every guy going to a urologist is going because of some issue with his ___, it would be a little uncomfortable knowing that you couldn't use it to improve the lives of one of those nurses. Depending on those nurses, I would pretend to have problems just to come by


"cough for me...."
 
A bit off-topic but can anyone recommend any good android games/puzzles to make my long morning commute a bit more enjoyable?

I'm sick of tetris clones for now.

fruit Ninja is the newest game for me. let's see how long this one can impress me for...
 
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