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Whatyousay said:
It's really starting to sound like your UG education is seeping into your arguments :meanie:
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I think you misunderstand me. I am 100% pro-choice, and firmly believe that an actual life is more valuable than a potential life. I'd even extend this by saying a first-trimester abortion of a severely handicapped child/fetus is not entirely unjustified if its birth/rearing would impose a significant burden on the family, because as you say, these are risky and taxing processes. What I have a problem with is the claim that this is in the best interest of the unborn. By adopting, you defend your interests, and those of orphans, but not the otherwise diseased child's.

As regards adoption, I agree that there are many deserving kids out there in need of a good home, and that you do a great service by adoption one. But why is the health of your birth children a relevant consideration? Orphans worldwide are in need regardless of whether you carry a certain deleterious gene or not, so why is it that ANYONE has children when there are children out there whose lives you could touch? I think it's because, at the end of the day, people like to do what makes them happiest.
 
BHaus9 said:
I think you misunderstand me. I am 100% pro-choice, and firmly believe that an actual life is more valuable than a potential life. I'd even extend this by saying a first-trimester abortion of a severely handicapped child/fetus is not entirely unjustified if its birth/rearing would impose a significant burden on the family, because as you say, these are risky and taxing processes. What I have a problem with is the claim that this is in the best interest of the unborn. By adopting, you defend your interests, and those of orphans, but not the otherwise diseases child's.

As regards adoption, I agree that there are many deserving kids out there in need of a good home, and that you do a great service by adoption one. But why is the health of your birth children a relevant consideration? Orphans worldwide are in need regardless of whether you carry a certain deleterious gene or not, so why is it that ANYONE has children when there are children out there whose lives you could touch? I think it's because, at the end of the day, people like to do what makes them happiest.
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Oh no, this discussion has become too serious for this thread :laugh:

I think the decision not to have a child is as much for the mother as it is for their offspring. No parent wants to bury their child - and no parent wants to bury their child after a battle with a horrible degenerative illness.
 
Whatyousay said:
Oh no, this discussion has become too serious for this thread :laugh:

I think the decision not to have a child is as much for the mother as it is for their offspring. No parent wants to bury their child - and no parent wants to bury their child after a battle with a horrible degenerative illness.
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I think that's exactly right. Anyone with a debilitating disease can cope and learn to live with it, and enjoy life otherwise. However, knowing that you gave the disease to your own child is hard to live with I'm sure.
 
I finally get rid of the chilluns, and we're having a serious discussion about future chilluns? Lame...😛
 
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12x_vUd1nYo[/YOUTUBE]
 
Buttermellow said:
I think that's exactly right. Anyone with a debilitating disease can cope and learn to live with it, and enjoy life otherwise. However, knowing that you gave the disease to your own child is hard to live with I'm sure.
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Whatyousay said:
Oh no, this discussion has become too serious for this thread :laugh:

I think the decision not to have a child is as much for the mother as it is for their offspring. No parent wants to bury their child - and no parent wants to bury their child after a battle with a horrible degenerative illness.
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Yeah, I mean, that was sort of my point. I just don't like when people say "I wouldn't want my child to have to go through that" rather than saying what they actually mean, which is "I don't want to have to watch my child go through that."

Whatyousay said:
I've seen your Facebook.
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What the..?? I don't even...? I just meant to point out that it's ironic to complain about complaining. But yeah... I have no reason NOT to loathe myself. So true 🙁
 
Buttermellow said:
All this talk about chilluns and chillin when we really need to be eating chitlins.
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Sorry, too busy hangin' with my bro
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Anyone, anyone?
 
CodeBlu said:
I need to get an iPad... my brother just got one... and he left it at home today. I'm loving it. The possibilities are endless on this thing.
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But it still can't read!

EDIT: anyone? anyone?
 
CodeBlu said:
I need to get an iPad... my brother just got one... and he left it at home today. I'm loving it. The possibilities are endless on this thing.
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Neurosurgeon brother with an ipad.... hook me up? 😛
 
CuttingCorneas said:
Another South Park reference...slipping away 🙁
But srs. S15E01...
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I'm woefully backlogged on every single TV show relevant to our times.
Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping... into the fuuuutuuuuuure.
 
BHaus9 said:
I'm woefully backlogged on every single TV show relevant to our times.
Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping... into the fuuuutuuuuuure.
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South Park may be the next show that I catch up on... currently on season 4 of HIMYM.
 
South Park is pretty awesome! dare I say it's better than gasp futurama
 
BHaus9 said:
But what about those diseases that appear to be unrelated to lifestyle factors and are more or less untreatable, like Alzheimer's or Huntington's? It'd be stressful to know you're likely to develop a crippling disorder that you can do nothing about. I'm still trying to decide if that knowledge is worth having.
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I don't think I'd want to know. Like Cypher says, ignorance is bliss.

Buttermellow said:
I'd still want to know. There's lots of new research about how to prevent Alzheimer's, and it's been shown that staying active mentally and physically can help prevent it. And as for Huntington's I'd want to know before having kids (because then I might just adopt as to not pass the disease to them).
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Just pointing out that you can't have Huntington's unless one of your parents does. It's a dominant disease, you can't be a carrier.

CodeBlu said:
I need to get an iPad... my brother just got one... and he left it at home today. I'm loving it. The possibilities are endless on this thing.
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I would give my firstborn child for an iPad.
 
mulzstl said:
South Park is pretty awesome! dare I say it's better than gasp futurama
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It's just so...smart. The first few seasons are meh. But it's evolved into such an intelligent, culturally-savvy show. I love it.
 
Lol, south park has some seriously awesome episodes. I like that they make fun of everyone
 
CuttingCorneas said:
But it still can't read!

EDIT: anyone? anyone?
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Buttermellow said:
Neurosurgeon brother with an ipad.... hook me up? 😛
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BHaus9 said:
iPad. Surfs the web, stops the bleeding.
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aSagacious said:
Hmm, so CB does that make you the black sheep of the family? 😀
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Hahahahahah

and no I am not the black sheep of the family. I bought him this iPad for his birthday. See what a good brother I am? I may just have to buy myself one though. This thing is too cool.

iPad stops the bleeding for shoooo. He bought this crazy $90 anatomy application for surgical stuff. It's INSANE cool.

Please can I be MD now? I just wanna cut...
 
I'm counting on you guys to spam hard while I am in Europe/Israel though. Seriously. If I come back after 2 weeks and you guys haven't broken 25,000 posts... Ima be upset.
 
TheMightySmiter said:
Yay people! 😀

CB wanna buy me an iPad?
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Get back to me when I'm making money like my brother? I get paid well in my lab since my PI has amazing funding. But my bank account dwindles with every secondary... uhhhh apps should not be so expensive.

aSagacious said:
4,000 posts in 2 weeks?... pfft, we've got this covered
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I will check in periodically to examine your progress.

mauberley said:
Packing. How the hell did I accumulate so much ish?
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After 4 years of college... I was so shocked at all the stuff I had. It's kind of ridiculous. I didn't even have furniture, cuz my place came furnished. Only thing I brought was a TV and a microwave. But I had like 4 boxes of books...

Whenever I write a final exam though... I usually study right up to the exam... after the exam, I take my binder and throw ALL the notes away. Best feeling ever. I should say that I throw them in a recycling bin.
 
CuttingCorneas said:
I thought Hey-Zeus was all about not being tied down to earthly possessions...
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DO NOT TAUNT HAPPY FUN JESUS. 😛

🙂

CodeBlu said:
After 4 years of college... I was so shocked at all the stuff I had. It's kind of ridiculous. I didn't even have furniture, cuz my place came furnished. Only thing I brought was a TV and a microwave. But I had like 4 boxes of books...

Whenever I write a final exam though... I usually study right up to the exam... after the exam, I take my binder and throw ALL the notes away. Best feeling ever. I should say that I throw them in a recycling bin.
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Haha. I did toss my notes from my post-bacc classes... but I did also scan them in first. Some things I hate to part with...especially since I have an awesome scanner.

Moving is always a good time for purging... but there's so much to purge when one has stayed put for so long.
 
I am not looking forward to moving! I dont want to part with my stuff😡
 
I dump everything I can. Bookcases shall only hold books, and trophies, and sometimes food.
 
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