Class of 2019!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Congratulations, @Ace Khalifa!!!!
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Also, congrats to @demystifie on Albany!!!!

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Ace Khalifa said:
Thanks, everyone! I was about to craft individualized updates/LOI's to all my schools today, but I guess that's no longer needed. I finally have some sense of direction and certainty for the future!
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I distinctly remember you asking a while back whether or not it was even worth it to attend your EVMS interview...

I guess we all know the answer now. Congratulations!
 
My friend who is in grad school at Wash U and works closely with WUSM students told me that a lot of the current first years are immature and don't care about being doctors. I asked him why and he told me they only treated medicine as a simple career or job. Then we discussed the philosophy of treating medicine as a calling and whether that would make one a better physician. I would love to hear y'all share your thoughts and opinions on this and start a discussion.
 
Ace Khalifa said:
I also posted a not obnoxious fb status. It's nice to see people you never talk to or haven't seen in years congratulate you and give you that affirmative like lololol.
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YYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH! This is great great great news! What a feeling; now you can rest easy until the autumn.
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Wait @Leslie_Knope I didn't catch your U of U acceptance! Huge congrats out to you, too!
 
Ace Khalifa said:
My friend who is in grad school at Wash U and works closely with WUSM students told me that a lot of the current first years are immature and don't care about being doctors. I asked him why and he told me they only treated medicine as a simple career or job. Then we discussed the philosophy of treating medicine as a calling and whether that would make one a better physician. I would love to hear y'all share your thoughts and opinions on this and start a discussion.
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A lot of first years are immature everywhere, WashU is no exception. I know that a lot of people have a problem with people treating medicine as just a career or job, but I don't know, I personally don't really have a problem with that. People have different reasons for doing things, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for people to have different reasons for pursuing the field. A lot of us are still very young, but I can see us having our motivations for pursuing medicine evolve as we get older, with new priorities emerging (such as starting and supporting a family), that will eventually reduce our view of our profession as just that, a profession.

I know that I personally want a life outside of medicine, and I have no problems with viewing medicine simply as a career in which I'm willing to invest a significant chunk of time, energy, life, and soul to pursue.

I once read a hypothetical ethical scenario which asked if it was ethical for a physician to reduce his/her exposure towards patients during an epidemic in order to reduce the chances of spreading that disease towards his/her family. The general consensus that I read was "Yes, absolutely", because people acknowledged that the physician was well within his/her rights to prioritize the well-being of his/her family over his/her profession, and that the profession should not necessitate the increased risk towards the physician's loved ones.

Just my two cents.
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
I thought it was a laundromat in St. Louis that offers college courses :laugh:
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You stole my joke from the other thread!

Also just rejected from Dartmouth... the schools that I like and haven't heard from are quickly diminishing in the opposite way I want.

Sent from the bus en route to Einstein. Please love me Einstein...!
 
ridethecliche said:
You stole my joke from the other thread!

Also just rejected from Dartmouth... the schools that I like and haven't heard from are quickly diminishing in the opposite way I want.

Sent from the bus en route to Einstein. Please love me Einstein...!
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:laugh: Oh that was you?! My bad. I'm gonna keep using it! And of course, I'll cite you from time to time 😉
Whoops went haywire with the emoticons-lol
 
ProbablyAPenguin said:
I tried In N Out this break. Not impressed.
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D: How can you not like In N Out?!?!?!!?!?

Can't for DC though so I can try Shake Shack. Time to compare~

Ace Khalifa said:
I'M GONNA BECOME A DOCTOR, Y'ALL!!!!!! #Accepted #EVMS #HatersGonnaHateHateHateHateHate

Oh, and I'm "officially" joining this class now too lolololol. 😛
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Awww ... I guess that just leaves me??!!?!? 🙁

Congrats tho! Hopefully I'll be joining you guys soon. In two months, I should know exactly what my future holds. (Unless I get unlucky and get #25 on the waitlist, which is where it starts getting iffy for UW.... :laugh:)

claduva94 said:
Wasn't it that state above Oregon? 😉
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Go Dawgs! 😛

Anyways, loving the sun in San Diego!!! Weather is awesome here. Haven't been this warm since the summer ... haha

Also, UCSD is frekin HUGE! Like ... it took my friend over 10 minutes to drive around campus ... I'll have to say though. Although it's right next to the beach and all, the buildings are ugly as doo-doo. Too much brutalist architecture. I'll admit those that the library looks pretty frekin cool. haha
 
ridethecliche said:
You stole my joke from the other thread!

Also just rejected from Dartmouth... the schools that I like and haven't heard from are quickly diminishing in the opposite way I want.

Sent from the bus en route to Einstein. Please love me Einstein...!
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Sorry about the negative response, @ridethecliche. Now I'm sending my powerful thought waves to Einstein (not the dead one) on your behalf.
 
Tman90 said:
Looks like I'll be learning in doo-doo buildings :sorry: , at least its sunny!
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The med area didn't seem so bad. Some of the buildings are actually nice. haha But I'm not a fan of the prison architecture lololol
 
Ace Khalifa said:
My friend who is in grad school at Wash U and works closely with WUSM students told me that a lot of the current first years are immature and don't care about being doctors. I asked him why and he told me they only treated medicine as a simple career or job. Then we discussed the philosophy of treating medicine as a calling and whether that would make one a better physician. I would love to hear y'all share your thoughts and opinions on this and start a discussion.
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“Don’t become a doctor unless you’re certain that there’s absolutely nothing else you want to do.”

This is a phrase that premeds hear a lot, and one that the vast majority of doctors agree with. But due to my cultural background growing up, I never thought there was anything wrong with becoming a doctor for the money or the job security. When I got to college, many people tried to tell me otherwise, but I was convinced that I could make it as a doctor despite having other things that I wanted to do. And since I have now been accepted by multiple medical schools, it seems like I was right. It’s true that throughout college, my views changed slightly to include reasons like social justice and helping others for why I want to become a doctor, but I have to be practical too. Obviously, an important part of why I want to become a doctor is still because of power, respect, money, and job security. At this point, you may be tempted to say that with this view, I’m never going to make it through med school and residency, but people told me four years ago that I’m never going to make it into med school and here I am. The point of me writing this is that I don’t want premeds to get scared away by the phrase above. There are some very bright, dedicated and compassionate students out there who may decide to give up medicine if they take that statement too seriously. The truth is that you just have to come off as being passionate enough about medicine in your interviews to become a doctor. Let’s be honest with ourselves now and admit that there are plenty of doctors who do it just for the money and prestige. Whether we like it or not, there are always going to be very smart people who aren’t necessarily passionate about medicine, who fake it and become doctors. I don’t think that it’s beneficial to present an overly ideal vision of the medical field, because people who would make great doctors could be deterred by it. I believe that I will become a good physician despite not having as much passion for medicine as some other people, because I have strengths in other areas that are beneficial to a career as a physician: accountability, knowledge of social justice, work ethic, and so on. Just having passion for medicine is not enough; it takes more to make a doctor. And on the flip side, I think that having other strengths can make up for a slight lack of passion.
 
So excited! Finally got another II this afternoon! :happy:
Waitlisted at one of my top choices (only other interview so far) so at least it will marginally increase my odds of acceptance.


Congrats to those of you with recent acceptances! Shout out to @Leslie_Knope, @Jr MD, @unnumzaan, @Ace Khalifa, @Terps1011, and anyone I missed! You all rock!!! :soexcited:
 
Leslie_Knope said:
Thanks you! I'm just so relieved and I really love Utah!
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That's great. I know someone attending a boarding school in Utah. It sounds so amazing with everything cost so little and people so friendly. Congrats to you for finally getting off the panic wagon. 🙂
 
youmeandthesea said:
“Don’t become a doctor unless you’re certain that there’s absolutely nothing else you want to do.”

This is a phrase that premeds hear a lot, and one that the vast majority of doctors agree with. But due to my cultural background growing up, I never thought there was anything wrong with becoming a doctor for the money or the job security. When I got to college, many people tried to tell me otherwise, but I was convinced that I could make it as a doctor despite having other things that I wanted to do. And since I have now been accepted by multiple medical schools, it seems like I was right. It’s true that throughout college, my views changed slightly to include reasons like social justice and helping others for why I want to become a doctor, but I have to be practical too. Obviously, an important part of why I want to become a doctor is still because of power, respect, money, and job security. At this point, you may be tempted to say that with this view, I’m never going to make it through med school and residency, but people told me four years ago that I’m never going to make it into med school and here I am. The point of me writing this is that I don’t want premeds to get scared away by the phrase above. There are some very bright, dedicated and compassionate students out there who may decide to give up medicine if they take that statement too seriously. The truth is that you just have to come off as being passionate enough about medicine in your interviews to become a doctor. Let’s be honest with ourselves now and admit that there are plenty of doctors who do it just for the money and prestige. Whether we like it or not, there are always going to be very smart people who aren’t necessarily passionate about medicine, who fake it and become doctors. I don’t think that it’s beneficial to present an overly ideal vision of the medical field, because people who would make great doctors could be deterred by it. I believe that I will become a good physician despite not having as much passion for medicine as some other people, because I have strengths in other areas that are beneficial to a career as a physician: accountability, knowledge of social justice, work ethic, and so on. Just having passion for medicine is not enough; it takes more to make a doctor. And on the flip side, I think that having other strengths can make up for a slight lack of passion.
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I never said that having a calling for medicine meant forgoing all the other potential reasons. In fact, I didn't define it because I have no idea what a true calling for medicine really entails. I think it's best to leave it to ambiguous interpretation because like you implied, one can have passion for medicine in different ways. You bring up a lot of good practical points, and I agree with a lot of them. I am not one to bash people for wanting the money or prestige or job security or power because I expect to have adequate levels of each of those as an attending physician. However, I find it difficult to believe someone when they say, "I want to become a doctor!" when their primary/principal or only reason for going into medicine is one of those often looked-down-upon reasons like money or prestige. Because my physician friends told me the unhappiest docs are the ones who "went into medicine for the wrong reasons." And I dislike people who are fake and try to present their untrue self during an interview just to slip thru the cracks. Ideally, a medical school candidate should naturally show their passion for medicine, not have to pretend or put on a facade. I believe having enough altruism and a true desire to help others augments a candidate trying to show their passion for medicine, and for my ideal of what a true calling for medicine should be, altruism and a genuine desire to help others are both included. I do understand we all have different ideals, including what a true calling for medicine should look like or feel like.
 
M12B said:
So excited! Finally got another II this afternoon! :happy:
Waitlisted at one of my top choices (only other interview so far) so at least it will marginally increase my odds of acceptance.


Congrats to those of you with recent acceptances! Shout out to @Leslie_Knope, @Jr MD, @unnumzaan, @Ace Khalifa, @Terps1011, and anyone I missed! You all rock!!! :soexcited:
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Yesss!!!!!!!!! I've been rooting for you!!! You got this!!! 🙂
 
Tman90 said:
haha yeah, I know what you mean, I'm just messing with you 😛 Personally, I visited some other schools in not so nice climates with that concrete slab prison feeling architecture and it seemed horrible especially during the winter when its gloomy. But for me, at least, I think the sun helps offset that feeling in SD and it reminds me of the place where I did research abroad and I kind of like it 😀

So now I'll pose a question to you guys.... What was the most beautiful school you visited?
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Of course this is just my opinion based on very emotionally charged, brief impressions:

The most beautiful school looking from outside are Stanford and Penn.
I have no photo of Stanford right now (and I doubt anybody needs any photos to be convinced of its gorgeousness). Here is Penn
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The most beautiful school when looking from inside is WashU. Here are their library and children's hospital.

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youmeandthesea said:
“Don’t become a doctor unless you’re certain that there’s absolutely nothing else you want to do.”
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I think it's difficult to achieve that level of certainty in your early 20s (when most people apply). It's a bit of a paradox. In order to complete the requirements for med school, one has to be somewhat sheltered and quite fortunate. I mean, how self-aware can someone be at this stage anyway? However, the passion that a lot of traditional applicants demonstrate for medicine is often reinforced during the third year rotations. If anything, some who lack passion, but who were admitted due to their work ethic, academic aptitude, etc. discover their purpose while participating in the patient-care process. Conversely, I'm sure some experience substantial regret during the MCY and end up scrambling for the most lifestyle-friendly field available.
 
Tman90 said:
haha yeah, I know what you mean, I'm just messing with you 😛 Personally, I visited some other schools in not so nice climates with that concrete slab prison feeling architecture and it seemed horrible especially during the winter when its gloomy. But for me, at least, I think the sun helps offset that feeling in SD and it reminds me of the place where I did research abroad and I kind of like it 😀

So now I'll pose a question to you guys.... What was the most beautiful school you visited?
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Hmmm, Northwestern was pretty nice, Einstein has some beautiful courtyards and outdoor spaces, Pitt had the cathedral of learning, but my favorite was Duke.
 
Tman90 said:
haha yeah, I know what you mean, I'm just messing with you 😛 Personally, I visited some other schools in not so nice climates with that concrete slab prison feeling architecture and it seemed horrible especially during the winter when its gloomy. But for me, at least, I think the sun helps offset that feeling in SD and it reminds me of the place where I did research abroad and I kind of like it 😀

So now I'll pose a question to you guys.... What was the most beautiful school you visited?
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Probably Miami.
 
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