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Supposed to work on secondaries today, but spent the past 8 hours in a sports bar watching the World Cup. Ooops.

I know it's super early in the cycle, but I'm waiting on tenterhooks for (hopefully) whenever my first interview invite shall come. I just need to know my application – and the ungodly amount of money I've shovelled into it – hasn't been a total waste.

Congrats to those readying for your August interviews! You're going to be beyond brilliant!
 
Supposed to work on secondaries today, but spent the past 8 hours in a sports bar watching the World Cup. Ooops.

I know it's super early in the cycle, but I'm waiting on tenterhooks for (hopefully) whenever my first interview invite shall come. I just need to know my application – and the ungodly amount of money I've shovelled into it – hasn't been a total waste.

Congrats to those readying for your August interviews! You're going to be beyond brilliant!

who was playing? who won? hahaha i'm the worst with sports....

i'm so excited for you! i'm sure you'll get one soon. i'm just waiting for next week or the week after (or maybe even the week after that) when all the school threads explode with IIs. i think i'm going to send an "in the area" email to georgetown as soon as they release their first batch of IIs.. i'm not sure if i should send it before that, but i don't want to jump the gun or anything.

i seriously need to start prepping for interviews though. i really really wish i knew somewhere that i could go to get a mock interview, so i can get feedback on my answers from people who know/understand the process. i'll keep looking, and hopefully i'll find someone... thanks for the support! i know that you are going to do so awesome on the dozens of interviews you're bound to get 🙂
 
Just realized my work computer has Photoshop on it, so you can guess what I did instead of editing manuscripts...

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Here's a preemptive "Good luck on your interview card" for @sunflower18. YOU'RE GOING TO ROCK IT.

And now I seriously need to get off sdn and back to work. :grumpy:
 
Just realized my work computer has Photoshop on it, so you can guess what I did instead of editing manuscripts...

tumblr_n8qgprGmQq1th64ufo1_400.jpg

Here's a preemptive "Good luck on your interview card" for @sunflower18. YOU'RE GOING TO ROCK IT.

And now I seriously need to get off sdn and back to work. :grumpy:

OH MY GOODNESS YOU ARE THE BEST!!! this made me laugh so hard and feel so fantastic!!! you are so so so so nice and creative and thoughtful and ohhh my goodness this is amazing. thank you so much!!!! i want to hang it on my wall hahaha 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
 
Just realized my work computer has Photoshop on it, so you can guess what I did instead of editing manuscripts...

tumblr_n8qgprGmQq1th64ufo1_400.jpg

Here's a preemptive "Good luck on your interview card" for @sunflower18. YOU'RE GOING TO ROCK IT.

And now I seriously need to get off sdn and back to work. :grumpy:

You're kind of an amazing photoshopper. 😳
 
Just realized my work computer has Photoshop on it, so you can guess what I did instead of editing manuscripts...

tumblr_n8qgprGmQq1th64ufo1_400.jpg

Here's a preemptive "Good luck on your interview card" for @sunflower18. YOU'RE GOING TO ROCK IT.

And now I seriously need to get off sdn and back to work. :grumpy:
Damn that's mad good
 
You're kind of an amazing photoshopper. 😳
Damn that's mad good

Thank you! When I'm not do the whole pre-med thing I moonlight as a graphic designer, so I usually have a graphics tablet on me.

Checking in.

Secondaries suck.

:ninja:

Seriously. Can we just skip the whole secondary/interview/waiting thing and just get to part where we all are accepted with full rides?
 
I have all my secondaries for the next year in a text file, and I will admit that though I know it helps to start early, I have very little motivation, if any at all, to start it now...I have barely finished my greatest challenge one lol
 
Has anyone heard any advice regarding the use of a quote in secondary applications? I've read over and over again that you should NOT use a quote in your personal statement, but I've never heard anything on this regarding secondaries. I'm inclined to think the advice would be the same. The only thing I can't look past though is how Ohio State drops a quote of MLK Jr. in their prompt.

I doubt it would be advantageous to quote a (largely unknown) rapper anyway. Now how to paraphrase the same message as eloquently...
 
I know it's super early in the cycle, but I'm waiting on tenterhooks for (hopefully) whenever my first interview invite shall come. I just need to know my application – and the ungodly amount of money I've shovelled into it – hasn't been a total waste.
I really feel you here.
 
Has anyone heard any advice regarding the use of a quote in secondary applications? I've read over and over again that you should NOT use a quote in your personal statement, but I've never heard anything on this regarding secondaries. I'm inclined to think the advice would be the same. The only thing I can't look past though is how Ohio State drops a quote of MLK Jr. in their prompt.

I doubt it would be advantageous to quote a (largely unknown) rapper anyway. Now how to paraphrase the same message as eloquently...

I think it might be better to paraphrase if the person you are quoting doesn't have any wise connotations associated with his name (if that makes any sense. lol)


I have all my secondaries for the next year in a text file, and I will admit that though I know it helps to start early, I have very little motivation, if any at all, to start it now...I have barely finished my greatest challenge one lol

Please don't tell me you're pre-writing a year early. :scared:
 
I really feel you here.

Just take heart knowing that you're getthelead out – you're like a god on these forums. Your app is immaculate.
A lot of your schools are also non-rolling; chances are the bulk of your interviews will be coming in Aug/Sept/Oct.

This process is painful because so much is out of your control. With my courses I could achieve high marks with good study habits. With ECs I could excel and complete my projects through concerted effort. With the MCAT I knew my score would be more or less near my average. But with applications, I will never know how things rate in the eyes of adcoms. You just have to submit, step away, and hope for the best. I have to keep reminding myself that obsessively logging onto my portals isn't going to get me any closer to an interview.

...unless, of course, some schools record how many time their applicants log on and grants an interview to their most obsessive applicant. Well, in that case I'd be swimming in interviews.
 
Just take heart knowing that you're getthelead out – you're like a god on these forums. Your app is immaculate.
A lot of your schools are also non-rolling; chances are the bulk of your interviews will be coming in Aug/Sept/Oct.

This process is painful because so much is out of your control. With my courses I could achieve high marks with good study habits. With ECs I could excel and complete my projects through concerted effort. With the MCAT I knew my score would be more or less near my average. But with applications, I will never know how things rate in the eyes of adcoms. You just have to submit, step away, and hope for the best. I have to keep reminding myself that obsessively logging onto my portals isn't going to get me any closer to an interview.

...unless, of course, some schools record how many time their applicants log on and grants an interview to their most obsessive applicant. Well, in that case I'd be swimming in interviews.

Exactly how I feel. I've unsubscribed to the school specific threads bc they are making me neurotic.
 
Just take heart knowing that you're getthelead out – you're like a god on these forums. Your app is immaculate.
A lot of your schools are also non-rolling; chances are the bulk of your interviews will be coming in Aug/Sept/Oct.

This process is painful because so much is out of your control. With my courses I could achieve high marks with good study habits. With ECs I could excel and complete my projects through concerted effort. With the MCAT I knew my score would be more or less near my average. But with applications, I will never know how things rate in the eyes of adcoms. You just have to submit, step away, and hope for the best. I have to keep reminding myself that obsessively logging onto my portals isn't going to get me any closer to an interview.

...unless, of course, some schools record how many time their applicants log on and grants an interview to their most obsessive applicant. Well, in that case I'd be swimming in interviews.
I appreciate the flattery. 🙂 I fully expected (and still do) my fair share of rejections, but I have to say I'm feeling pretty discouraged at this point (though I know its still early.) I figured I would have a good shot at early interviews particularly at Pritzker and UMich, given their rolling nature, my app/secondaries, and being complete at both as early as possible, but I just received my second Hold of the two today at UMich. So much for that. I didn't expect to ever be worrying about total application failure at any point during the cycle, but here it is, only July...

Anyway I agree with your description here, and it definitely is painful. At least we have each other?
 
I appreciate the flattery. 🙂 I fully expected (and still do) my fair share of rejections, but I have to say I'm feeling pretty discouraged at this point (though I know its still early.) I figured I would have a good shot at early interviews particularly at Pritzker and UMich, given their rolling nature, my app/secondaries, and being complete at both as early as possible, but I just received my second Hold of the two today at UMich. So much for that. I didn't expect to ever be worrying about total application failure at any point during the cycle, but here it is, only July...

Anyway I agree with your description here, and it definitely is painful. At least we have each other?

I understand your frustration. 🙁 Months before this whole cycle started I was certain you'd be picked up by both schools. When you've put your all into something but don't receive your expected results it is very demoralizing.

In an absolute worst case scenario, you can always add some less-selective schools to your app come August/September. However, I don't think that'll be necessary... these early invites are more the exception than the rule. Good things ought to be right around the bend.

This site is a double-edged sword; it really can spur on your paranoia, but I love the support I've received from fellow applicants on here. As someone without a lot of friends on the pre-med track, it helps a lot to be able to speak with people in a similar situation.
 
I understand your frustration. 🙁 Months before this whole cycle started I was certain you'd be picked up by both schools. When you've put your all into something but don't receive your expected results it is very demoralizing.

In an absolute worst case scenario, you can always add some less-selective schools to your app come August/September. However, I don't think that'll be necessary... these early invites are more the exception than the rule. Good things ought to be right around the bend.

This site is a double-edged sword; it really can spur on your paranoia, but I love the support I've received from fellow applicants on here. As someone without a lot of friends on the pre-med track, it helps a lot to be able to speak with people in a similar situation.

Absolutely to the bolded. My school is small and I really just don't know many others who are applying or who have been through this and understand the process. For me, having a support system on SDN has been invaluable. This process often feels really isolating, and having people here who understand that is really great. But yeah, it's neurotic and paranoia-inducing as well.

It's both comforting and shocking to see you guys, who are superstars and my med school application idols, sharing my own fears and insecurities. I hope that we all end up okay at the end of this year! I'm sure we will. But that certainly seems like a long time from now, doesn't it?
 
It's both comforting and shocking to see you guys, who are superstars and my med school application idols, sharing my own fears and insecurities. I hope that we all end up okay at the end of this year! I'm sure we will. But that certainly seems like a long time from now, doesn't it?
I'm not a superstar by any means, but that's not gonna stop me from trying.
 
Finally got verified and rcd a flood of secondaries. Wahhh. :chicken:

Exciting! Take it one day at a time... baby steps with those secondaries. Best wishes for all your apps!

Absolutely to the bolded. My school is small and I really just don't know many others who are applying or who have been through this and understand the process. For me, having a support system on SDN has been invaluable. This process often feels really isolating, and having people here who understand that is really great. But yeah, it's neurotic and paranoia-inducing as well.

It's both comforting and shocking to see you guys, who are superstars and my med school application idols, sharing my own fears and insecurities. I hope that we all end up okay at the end of this year! I'm sure we will. But that certainly seems like a long time from now, doesn't it?

Ditto. Isolating is the perfect word for it.

I'm hopeful that we're all going to end up happy with our cycle. It's just nice to know I have a safe place to whinge and whine about the whole thing without confusing/boring my friends any more than I have already. :arghh:
 
Ok so here's my take on this shiznits, coming from a different background than I think most here may have. My childhood nanny's mom and dad (yeah yeah make jokes about having a nanny har har har, $100 says I've heard them all) were career admissions administrators. Knew the family well. One at a med school, the other b-school, both in New York, since retired, though. Even back when numeric grades mattered a great deal more than the "holistic approach" that has taken front and center in recent years, they were just constantly talking about "fit" and "profile" and **** like that in the early 2000s when I started to understand wtf was up at dinner table conversations. (Oh, and if the adcoms on these forums are any indication, these people reallllly like talking about their jobs; like, I'm in DC right now where people love to talk about themselves, which is great for young people like us to learn their experiences, but damn, this does not match what I've seen in those social circles.)

Depending on the personality and vision of the Dean of the school, schools can range from caring a lot to caring a whole f*cking lot about untangibles and how they "feel" about people (omg how I lurch when they say things like "So I feel like this and this applicant will come here and engage in [blank] more than that applicant will take advantage of our so and so resources"). My experience with admissions officers from college through outreach initiatives tell me that it's the same thing magnified by magnitudes behind closed doors these days. Once your numbers are in range, it's all about the subjective things.

So when @gettheleadout says that Mich put him on hold, Pritzker has no response, and we all know his numerics work out, it's the "fit" part we're talking about that probably didn't sing well with the reviewers. Maybe they don't think a southern state school applicant is best placed in the hollow Midwest with the snow and polar bears. Maybe they know he'll get into at least one of the top 20 and so if he's not at the top of their "want" list (perhaps further down on the list), they'll push him down the priority list.

Point is, they're not f*cking around when they make you write the "why this school" essays. The bad part is that this'll lead to plenty of holds and rejections. The good part is that schools are different, and so it's a new action sequence with every school. Have a beer, a Yuengling. Go to a happy hour.
 
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I'm really not. I've posted my stats in several threads on this forum. You can also check MDapps. My username on that site is the same as this one.
 
Ok so here's my take on this shiznits, coming from a different background than I think most here may have. My childhood nanny's mom and dad (yeah yeah make jokes about having a nanny har har har, $100 says I've heard them all) were career admissions administrators. Knew the family well. One at a med school, the other b-school, both in New York, since retired, though. Even back when numeric grades mattered a great deal more than the "holistic approach" that has taken front and center in recent years, they were just constantly talking about "fit" and "profile" and **** like that in the early 2000s when I started to understand wtf was up at dinner table conversations. (Oh, and if the adcoms on these forums are any indication, these people reallllly like talking about their jobs; like, I'm in DC right now where people love to talk about themselves, which is great for young people like us to learn their experiences, but damn, this does not match what I've seen in those social circles.)

Depending on the personality and vision of the Dean of the school, schools can range from caring a lot to caring a whole f*cking lot about untangibles and how they "feel" about people (omg how I lurch when they say things like "So I feel like this and this applicant will come here and engage in [blank] more than that applicant will take advantage of our so and so resources"). My experience with admissions officers from college through outreach initiatives tell me that it's the same thing magnified by magnitudes behind closed doors these days. Once your numbers are in range, it's all about the subjective things.

So when @gettheleadout says that Mich put him on hold, Pritzker has no response, and we all know his numerics work out, it's the "fit" part we're talking about that probably didn't sing well with the reviewers. Maybe they don't think a southern state school applicant is best placed in the hollow Midwest with the snow and polar bears. Maybe they know he'll get into at least one of the top 20 and so if he's not at the top of their "want" list (perhaps further down on the list), they'll push him down the priority list.

Point is, they're not f*cking around when they make you write the "why this school" essays. The bad part is that this'll lead to plenty of holds and rejections. The good part is that schools are different, and so it's a new action sequence with every school. Have a beer, a Yuengling. Go to a happy hour.
I completely agree. And the thing is, I hope no one thinks I've simply half-assed my secondaries. I recognized that if they're making you write it, you're making them read it, and it's obviously an important part of your app (hence I've had Duke's and Vandy's sitting on my computer for weeks now.) I thought I had good, interesting, I daresay compelling, but at least decent secondary essays, and yet even with all interview slots open it wasn't enough for either Pritzker or UM to extend one of their first II's. Although we know who we are and what we're trying to convey when we describe ourselves and our interests in these essays, the person on the other end reading it doesn't, and so they lack the context we have when reading our writing. We can recognize that and try to mitigate the impact the difference in perspectives has, but ultimately you can't wholly control what impression someone gets from your app. All it takes is one small thing to sour the image the reader gets, and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad applicant or even a bad fit for the school; it's just an impression. Unfortunately, that's all they have to go on at this stage.
 
Oh, and @hellanutella, gratz on the Pitt II. 😉

Grazie! It was definitely unexpected. I've said this before and I'll say it again, but you're bound to have plenty of IIs headed your way.

Yeah, the "intangible" component definitely has significant sway – probably more than anyone would like to admit. I reviewed applications and conducted phone interviews for a research program one summer. We had a GPA screen and then worked our way through the remaining candidates. I'm pretty certain our reviewing process was nowhere near as comprehensive as medical schools', but there ought to have been some similarities.

Sometimes all it took was for one statement in their essay to really resonate with us or an intriguing hobby that we just wanted to learn more about. Other times applications would just not "click" with the readers. It may have been as simple as a single statement rubbing someone the wrong way, or a reader misinterpreting the author's tone. This is not to say that you should obsessively pour over your secondaries, just that different people can respond to the same piece of writing very differently (look at any collection of book reviews). Sadly, nearly every applicant was competent enough for the program – but we simply had to find some way of whittling down our pile. It was a brutal process (and even somewhat arbitrary, depending on the reviewer) but it had to be done. 🙁
 
I completely agree. And the thing is, I hope no one thinks I've simply half-assed my secondaries. I recognized that if they're making you write it, you're making them read it, and it's obviously an important part of your app (hence I've had Duke's and Vandy's sitting on my computer for weeks now.) I thought I had good, interesting, I daresay compelling, but at least decent secondary essays, and yet even with all interview slots open it wasn't enough for either Pritzker or UM to extend one of their first II's. Although we know who we are and what we're trying to convey when we describe ourselves and our interests in these essays, the person on the other end reading it doesn't, and so they lack the context we have when reading our writing. We can recognize that and try to mitigate the impact the difference in perspectives has, but ultimately you can't wholly control what impression someone gets from your app. All it takes is one small thing to sour the image the reader gets, and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad applicant or even a bad fit for the school; it's just an impression. Unfortunately, that's all they have to go on at this stage.
Warning! I may be one of those overly optimistic people but I know you are going to do great this cycle. I doubt anyone thinks you half-assed your secondaries. The problem is, you're too bad ass of an applicant lol. Schools are going to be reluctant with you because they know eventually Harvard, Hopkins, Washu, Yale, or Stanford will snatch you up and they wont stand a chance 😉

You're going to be going to one of those schools I'm calling it now:nod:
 
Congrats @hellanutella !!!!!! UPitt is going to love you 🙂

Thank you, No Limits! It'll be my first time to the city and I've already started looking up restaurants ahaha.

Ready for some IIs to come to you, @turayza, and @Person0715, since we all have fairly similar stats/school lists. And everyone else on here. Dammit interview gods, make it rain for the sdn crew. :biglove:
 
I completely agree. And the thing is, I hope no one thinks I've simply half-assed my secondaries. I recognized that if they're making you write it, you're making them read it, and it's obviously an important part of your app (hence I've had Duke's and Vandy's sitting on my computer for weeks now.) I thought I had good, interesting, I daresay compelling, but at least decent secondary essays, and yet even with all interview slots open it wasn't enough for either Pritzker or UM to extend one of their first II's. Although we know who we are and what we're trying to convey when we describe ourselves and our interests in these essays, the person on the other end reading it doesn't, and so they lack the context we have when reading our writing. We can recognize that and try to mitigate the impact the difference in perspectives has, but ultimately you can't wholly control what impression someone gets from your app. All it takes is one small thing to sour the image the reader gets, and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad applicant or even a bad fit for the school; it's just an impression. Unfortunately, that's all they have to go on at this stage.

Maybe they weren't as compelling as you thought they were 😛.
 
I have been reminding myself that it only takes one acceptance! Keep your chin up everyone. The cycle is still young.
 
Congrats @hellanutella!!!!!! That's amazing!!!!!!! I'm so so so so thrilled for you!!!!!


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Thank you! I'm excited to hear how your GW interview goes!
It's been a surreal and very good week to say the least. Now I have to find out how to coordinate my interviews so that I don't break the bank in flight costs... :greedy: Are you guys planning to wait until August to see if you get more interviews or are you booking flights immediately?
 
Thank you! I'm excited to hear how your GW interview goes!
It's been a surreal and very good week to say the least. Now I have to find out how to coordinate my interviews so that I don't break the bank in flight costs... :greedy: Are you guys planning to wait until August to see if you get more interviews or are you booking flights immediately?
I'm waiting until about 14 days prior, although I'll check flights more frequently than that just in case they start to fill up.
 
Warning! I may be one of those overly optimistic people but I know you are going to do great this cycle. I doubt anyone thinks you half-assed your secondaries. The problem is, you're too bad ass of an applicant lol. Schools are going to be reluctant with you because they know eventually Harvard, Hopkins, Washu, Yale, or Stanford will snatch you up and they wont stand a chance 😉

You're going to be going to one of those schools I'm calling it now:nod:
That would be amazing. :xf:
 
See, I would have been @wolverine2015 if he/she hadn't beaten me to it. But nooo. Also, I'm super original and creative, which explains my choices in online usernames.
 
just got another II! ahhh! good day for us @hellanutella 🙂
YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! 😀 That's fantastic news, Sunflower! So much for calling yourself the "underdog." I get so much secondhand excitement when I see people on here receive interviews.

Hope you're able to tour Rochester before the autumn chill/winter freeze rolls in. And I'm sure you've got plenty more IIs waiting in the wings. Too bad we don't have any II overlap – though it seems we're both West Coasters who only get East Coast love.
 
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YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! 😀 That's fantastic news, Sunflower! So much for calling yourself the "underdog." I get so much secondhand excitement when I see people on here receive interviews.

Hope you're able to tour Rochester before the autumn chill/winter freeze rolls in. And I'm sure you've got plenty more IIs waiting in the wings. Too bad we don't have any II overlap – though it seems we're both West Coasters who only get East Coast love.

Thank you thank you thank you! I'm so excited and honestly completely shocked. I'm interviewing in early September, so it probably won't be cold yet though! Yeah, it seems like we are going to be zigzagging across the country quite a bit here 🙂 Maybe we'll end up crossing paths somehow!

I'm so so so so so stoked for you too. I can't wait to see how many IIs and acceptances you get!!
 
I have all my secondaries for the next year in a text file, and I will admit that though I know it helps to start early, I have very little motivation, if any at all, to start it now...I have barely finished my greatest challenge one lol
It will be really sad if you seriously start writing your secondaries a year in advance.
 
My committee just said that they wrote my letter and send it to interfolio. Do you guys know how long interfolio takes to update? Business hours?
 
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