Cleveland Programs

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Can someone rank these Cleveland programs for me?

Case Western - UH
Cleveland Clinic
Case Western - MetroHealth

If anyone can give me some insight to these programs that would be great.

Thanks!

 

[absocold]

can someone rank these cleveland programs for me?

Case western - uh
cleveland clinic
case western - metrohealth

if anyone can give me some insight to these programs that would be great.

Thanks!

cc >>>> cw- uh >> cw-mh

 

[Ntzach]

cc >>>> cw- uh >> cw-mh

Is it true?

What are the variables you used for this comparison?

 

[superkeith]

Can someone rank these Cleveland programs for me?

Case Western - UH
Cleveland Clinic
Case Western - MetroHealth

If anyone can give me some insight to these programs that would be great.

Thanks!

well, what are you looking for in a program? any particular subspecialty interest yet?

 

[Adrian Cocot]

Can someone rank these Cleveland programs for me?

Case Western - UH
Cleveland Clinic
Case Western - MetroHealth

If anyone can give me some insight to these programs that would be great.

Thanks!

CCF will give you the best all-around training. Strongest AP in the city, albeit with a lack of peds/placental path. CP is pretty good as well, although heme is a bit more didactic at UH, whereas you're mostly relegated to self-study at CC. You'll have the best shot at a top fellowship (some of them in-house) or a good job if you go to the CC, but will have the hardest time adjusting to real life or any situation where you're not as coddled.

UH has better looking nurses and housestaff, and is closer to more bars and eateries. If you work at it, you'll get solid AP and CP training and have a good shot at fellowships and jobs. You'll also be a more well-rounded trainee, since you'll learn your peds/placental path really well. Although it's been a while since I was there, the cafeteria has better food. You'll get multicultural exposure from the FMGs. You also get an extra week of vacation (4) vs. the CCF. And they pay more.

Don't know much about Metrohealth, although they seem to have a pretty nice guy as a program director.

 

[KeratinPearls]

CCF will give you the best all-around training. Strongest AP in the city, albeit with a lack of peds/placental path. CP is pretty good as well, although heme is a bit more didactic at UH, whereas you're mostly relegated to self-study at CC. You'll have the best shot at a top fellowship (some of them in-house) or a good job if you go to the CC, but will have the hardest time adjusting to real life or any situation where you're not as coddled.

UH has better looking nurses and housestaff, and is closer to more bars and eateries. If you work at it, you'll get solid AP and CP training and have a good shot at fellowships and jobs. You'll also be a more well-rounded trainee, since you'll learn your peds/placental path really well. Although it's been a while since I was there, the cafeteria has better food. You'll get multicultural exposure from the FMGs. You also get an extra week of vacation (4) vs. the CCF. And they pay more.

Don't know much about Metrohealth, although they seem to have a pretty nice guy as a program director.

I've heard that CCF is a really assembly line environment and that attendings sign out your cases and there isnt much autonomy. Can you address this?

 

[Pathwrath]

You'll have the best shot at a top fellowship (some of them in-house) or a good job if you go to the CC, but will have the hardest time adjusting to real life or any situation where you're not as coddled.

Did it stop being a grossing/marrow screening grind?

 

[Euchromatin]

I interviewed at Cleveland Clinic in fall 2009 and I think it landed somewhere in the top 1/3 or so of my rank list. It sounded like they had plenty of time for previewing your cases while on AP and I don't recall anyone complaining about staff having cases dictated and/or signed out before they had a crack at them. I think they had recently switched to a 3 or 4 day rotation or something along those lines to increase preview time. I remember several of the residents mentioning that, because it was a fairly large program, if you were not a very self-motivated/go-getter type, you could easily slide under the radar get away with doing only the absolute minimum amount of work - which might be the "coddling" the other posters are referring to.