columbia with a 3.2?

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do you guys think I have some shot at an interview as an out-of-stater with that gpa, assuming the rest of my app is competitive and well-rounded? thanks.
 
I have a 3.1 overall and 3.4 science and 20-AA/20-AA/18-AA. I dont know how much chance I have but would love to go there. Anyone think I have a chance!
 
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3.2 is doable. I have a 3.3 and was accepted. For your reference, my DATs were 22AA/24TS/22PAT
 
mlle said:
do you guys think I have some shot at an interview as an out-of-stater with that gpa, assuming the rest of my app is competitive and well-rounded? thanks.

You have a definite shot at an interview as long as you have high DATs. I had an interview there with a sub-3.0.
 
mlle said:
do you guys think I have some shot at an interview as an out-of-stater with that gpa, assuming the rest of my app is competitive and well-rounded? thanks.

kick booty on ur dats. emphasize your experiences. apply early. you'll at least get an interview.

i got in w/ sub 3.0 and 22/21/17.
 
Sephisabin said:
You have a definite shot at an interview as long as you have high DATs. I had an interview there with a sub-3.0.
how sub 3.0 and how high on the dat?

what was the result...thnx 4 ur help
 
netsn06 said:
kick booty on ur dats. emphasize your experiences. apply early. you'll at least get an interview.

i got in w/ sub 3.0 and 22/21/17.
how did u do so well on ur DAT .......busted ur @ss ..but how?
 
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sumozmom said:
how did u do so well on ur DAT .......busted ur @ss ..but how?

Columbia is all about the DAT. A 3.5 w/ a 19 DAT will probably be rejected. On the other hand a 3.0 w/ a 22+ DAT will at least guarantee an interview. The current first yeat batch has a stat of 3.5 gpa and 22 DAT.
 
Word. I heard of a girl who had a 3.0 cum, although her major was in some engineering discipline, and got in with 20+ DAT scores. Put forth the effort and you'll get in. Best of luck.
 
sumozmom said:
how sub 3.0 and how high on the dat?

what was the result...thnx 4 ur help

In the 2.8 area but with a big upward trend and a 22/21/25.
 
agreed...i had a 3.3, 3.2sci, but my DATs were 22/22/17. I could be wrong, but I think the undergrad school that your GPA comes from might be a factor as well. At my interview I noticed everyone was from a top tier school (top 20-30). I'm not saying you have to go to a top school to get in cuz if you have the stats you'll get in regardless of where you went. I'm implying that a 3.2 at a highly competitive school might be looked upon more favorably than a 3.2 at a so-so middle of the road university.
 
^^^agreed with BDL

A good portion of my classmates here are from pretty good schools. If you went to a highly competitive school and majored in something difficult, the admissions office would be more kind when looking at your GPA (as long as you also did well on the DATs, to prove that you CAN do well). But if you have a crappy GPA AND a sub-par DAT score, that would pretty much confirm that your GPA is a true reflection of your abilities (not that there is anything wrong with a 3.2, it's still very good, but for Columbia Dental you would have to kick it up another notch).

I only had a 3.3 GPA but a 21DAT score. But I was also a biomedical engineer major with 2 minors (and BME was painful, probably moreso than dental school because I would study and study and still get 60%. While here, if I get a bad grade, it's usually because I deserved it). My non-science GPA was a 3.8--does that tell you something? Should've been a liberal arts major :laugh:

Don't worry too much! Just try your best for the DATs
 
Melody (Backstreet boys):

They don't care~ where you are from, what you get (for your GPA)~ as long as you rock (the DAT)

I'm serious, I think they only look at one section.
 
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sumozmom said:
how did u do sooo well.....? what was ur secret

Not really a secret... haha... I just studied for it... The PAT is the section people keep asking about... I just did the practice that Kaplan had to offer. A lot of people say it's not very good, but it worked just fine for me.
 
sumozmom said:
how did u do sooo well.....? what was ur secret

take a year off, and study for the DAT everyday. i'm sure you'll be impressed with your score. the DAT isn't that hard of a test...it just requires you to memorise as many facts your brain can hold.
 
a year off is way too much. Maybe 2~3 months, but not a year!
 
mlle said:
do you guys think I have some shot at an interview as an out-of-stater with that gpa, assuming the rest of my app is competitive and well-rounded? thanks.

Yes, there is always a chance!
 
r0entgen said:
lol yes, but maybe the dumber people need a year =p

A year IS way too much... 2 to 3 months is the most you can do. If you're diligent, there's no way you can find enough stuff to study for a full year! Plus, you'd probably start forgetting stuff 9 months down the road!
 
Sephisabin said:
A year IS way too much... 2 to 3 months is the most you can do. If you're diligent, there's no way you can find enough stuff to study for a full year! Plus, you'd probably start forgetting stuff 9 months down the road!

not really my point. my point is, the DAT is easy. spend enough time on it, and ANYONE can score well on it.
 
r0entgen said:
not really my point. my point is, the DAT is easy. spend enough time on it, and ANYONE can score well on it.

Agreed. I was just saying that you don't really need a year to score well... 2 to 3 months is plenty.
 
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Sephisabin said:
Agreed. I was just saying that you don't really need a year to score well... 2 to 3 months is plenty.
how is it easy? 2-3 mths if you have nothing todo but study...would be more like it...correct....?

how do you prepare in just 2-3 mths...( are we assuming that your real comfortable witht the material)

please advise 🙂 thnx 4 ur help
 
sumozmom said:
how is it easy? 2-3 mths if you have nothing todo but study...would be more like it...correct....?

how do you prepare in just 2-3 mths...( are we assuming that your real comfortable witht the material)

please advise 🙂 thnx 4 ur help

2-3 months is more than enough time. sumozmon.... didn't you just finish gen chem 1? i wouldn't be worrying about the dat now. finish your pre-reqs, THEN worry about the dat. you will see what were talking about. the biology IMO is the most time consuming.
 
whiskeysour said:
2-3 months is more than enough time. sumozmon.... didn't you just finish gen chem 1? i wouldn't be worrying about the dat now. finish your pre-reqs, THEN worry about the dat. you will see what were talking about. the biology IMO is the most time consuming.
stupid question ---BUT what is IMO....?

also I will be taking the DAT in One yr may 2007. I have alot to do 🙂
 
sumozmom said:
stupid question ---BUT what is IMO....?

also I will be taking the DAT in One yr may 2007. I have alot to do 🙂

IMO=in my opinion
 
the columbia requirement is supposedly three science prof LORs or health committee. I only have 2 sci, 1 non sci, and a dentist. i dont have a chance, huh?

oh.. and my gpa is 3.07
dat:
aa 22
PA 20
QR 28
reading 20
bio 22
g chem 21
ochem 21
ts 22

if only the other sections had the same score as the math.....
 
DentalBoarder said:
the columbia requirement is supposedly three science prof LORs or health committee. I only have 2 sci, 1 non sci, and a dentist. i dont have a chance, huh?

oh.. and my gpa is 3.07
dat:
aa 22
PA 20
QR 28
reading 20
bio 22
g chem 21
ochem 21
ts 22

if only the other sections had the same score as the math.....

You very well could get an interview so long as you meet their letter of rec requirements. You either need to get one more science letter or a pre-health committee letter. If you don't, then your application will be deemed incomplete and you won't be able to get an interview.

Sumozmom--2 to 3 months should be enough because you're only reviewing stuff that you've already learned. I honestly don't suggest starting to study a year in advance unless you're sure you'll remember it a year later... And no... you don't need to spend every waking hour studying for those 2-3 months 😉
 
DentalBoarder said:
the columbia requirement is supposedly three science prof LORs or health committee. I only have 2 sci, 1 non sci, and a dentist. i dont have a chance, huh?

oh.. and my gpa is 3.07
dat:
aa 22
PA 20
QR 28
reading 20
bio 22
g chem 21
ochem 21
ts 22

if only the other sections had the same score as the math.....
whats a health commitee?
 
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sumozmom said:
whats a health commitee?

go to your school's website and type in pre-health committee or advisor. it's basically an office/department that advises you as to your health professions application. they help you along the way to make sure you are fulfilling your requirements, and are on track. they will usually ask that you complete a rough personal statement, submit all transcripts, LOR's, etc. and then conduct an interview based upon all of which they write a committe letter to the dental schools. it is a composite of your LOR's and you interviewwith them.

At least that's the way it works in my school.

Good luck.
 
mlle said:
go to your school's website and type in pre-health committee or advisor. it's basically an office/department that advises you as to your health professions application. they help you along the way to make sure you are fulfilling your requirements, and are on track. they will usually ask that you complete a rough personal statement, submit all transcripts, LOR's, etc. and then conduct an interview based upon all of which they write a committe letter to the dental schools. it is a composite of your LOR's and you interviewwith them.

At least that's the way it works in my school.

Good luck.

Ditto for mine... they essentially take all of your letters of rec and send them to all the schools... sort of the way aadsas would, but the pre-health committee also write another letter of rec for you... and THAT letter of rec is the one that almost every school will accept in place of their usual criteria of X science professors and Y dentists/employers and whatnot...
 
sumozmom said:
how is it easy? 2-3 mths if you have nothing todo but study...would be more like it...correct....?

how do you prepare in just 2-3 mths...( are we assuming that your real comfortable witht the material)

please advise 🙂 thnx 4 ur help
nahh if you if you have nothing to do but study then you only need one month. I would know. 😉
 
k... just called columbia and spoke with Ms. DelCampo. she said my chances of acceptance are fine as long as i send in another LOR from an academic professor even if not a sci prof. anywho, thanks for your input.
 
sumozmom said:
how is it easy? 2-3 mths if you have nothing todo but study...would be more like it...correct....?

how do you prepare in just 2-3 mths...( are we assuming that your real comfortable witht the material)

please advise 🙂 thnx 4 ur help

I have 22/23/18 (AA/TS/PAT) and I studied for six weeks with no other interruptions. I would say I am not a genious nor I have any photographic memory. I am a non-native english speaker and graduated from high school overseas. My point here is that not everyone requires the same amount of time to study for the DAT. So, I would say give yourself at least 2 months and see how prepared you are on the basis of your practice DAT scores. DAT is not really that difficult but my advise is that stay focused and work hard. Try not to juggle with other things like summer school or work while you prepare for DAT. Also I wasn't very good at PAT and I think I would have done better by practicing it regularly. I hope this helps.