Combined Anesthesia + CCM Residencies: List Em!

[Josh1]

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This is a simple list of all residency programs that are out there that have a combined anesthesia + critical care fellowship track for all those interested, add ones you know to help make searching easier for future generations:

-OHSU
-University of Washington
-Vanderbilt (via Robbins scholar, picked after residency)
-Stanford
-Johns Hopkins
-Ucsf

This thread is not a ranking of those programs, look at past threads or create a new one for that

Edit: I'll add new posts to the list above so this post will hopefully contain them all, you can PM me if you see that I'm lagging behind

 

[polar403]

Johns Hopkins.

 

[noodler]

I believe that Dartmouth has plans to start one but it is not established yet

 

[CerealBox]

Ucsf

 

[pretenda]

no disrespect to any of the folks out there doing combined programs but whats the point of doing a five year program built in besides not having to go on interviews?

 

[Freak]

Stanford (although no prelim year).

I know some of the 5 year programs have more of a focus on ICU months. Some also make it so that your fellowship year is not devoid of OR time, but rather is more integrated (part ICU/part OR) by spreading the ICU months throughout.

 

[miravos]

pros of the five year program are that you can split your fellowship training up over the last 2 years. you don't have to do a full year of CCM training and be out of the OR for the entire year.

 

[PMPMD]

pros of the five year program are that you can split your fellowship training up over the last 2 years. you don't have to do a full year of CCM training and be out of the OR for the entire year.

as someone in the middle of a CCM fellowship, i can say this advantage would be real and worth it.

 

[foxtrot]

I think the combined Anesthesia + CCM fellowship is a great idea. I just read in the ABA newsletter that they are going to start a 5 year combined anesthesia + Internal medicine residency, which I think is another cool deal for some folks. Whatever you can do to be more marketable in these economic times is a good idea. I wish they would have had these combined programs when I was a resident. Lucky kids.

 

[Josh1]

wow, that's cool about the combined internal medicine programs, this hopefully means anesthesiologists will be involved in education at academic MICUs making for more interdisciplinary ICU training. This is great news!

 

[cleansocks]

Just like in medical school where kids that go in with one idea (like family medicine) end up doing something else (like anesthesia), prospective residents of anesthesia may not know they hate the ICU until they do it as a resident. Being in charge, alert, and keeping a ton of patients in your head as a resident is much different than the role most medical students play. So I don't think this five year track is a good idea for most people unless they somehow have more knowledge/experience than the typical medical student going into anesthesia. No offense to those that are super enthusiastic about it... just be careful.

 

[stationroad]

Just like in medical school where kids that go in with one idea (like family medicine) end up doing something else (like anesthesia), prospective residents of anesthesia may not know they hate the ICU until they do it as a resident. Being in charge, alert, and keeping a ton of patients in your head as a resident is much different than the role most medical students play. So I don't think this five year track is a good idea for most people unless they somehow have more knowledge/experience than the typical medical student going into anesthesia. No offense to those that are super enthusiastic about it... just be careful.

I agree. Not to mention that only a tiny percentage of anesthesia graduates actually work in ICUs. I mean I rarely see job postings of ICU anesthesiologists. All the ICU docs are pumonary docs or surgicalICU docs.

 

[chocomorsel]

I agree. Not to mention that only a tiny percentage of anesthesia graduates actually work in ICUs. I mean I rarely see job postings of ICU anesthesiologists. All the ICU docs are pumonary docs or surgicalICU docs.

Anesthesiologists typically work surgical ICUs and most fellowships concentrate on the SICU as medicine fellows are in the MICU. I personally would like to do both since I enjoy the MICU more than the SICU but either way I will still be doing a fellowship because I do love the challenges of the unit and want to keep the mix outside the OR.

 

[PMPMD]

I agree. Not to mention that only a tiny percentage of anesthesia graduates actually work in ICUs. I mean I rarely see job postings of ICU anesthesiologists. All the ICU docs are pumonary docs or surgicalICU docs.

Yes, there are roughly 50 Anesthesia-CCM fellows annually out of ~1300 graduating residents (3-4%), and not all of these go on to work in ICUs.